ancients balancing, new armours/prayers/specials!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scruff636b]

all members have seen it

 

 

 

a ancient mage walks into a room and just casts a ice barrage, takes the flag, and runs back to base easily. i hate it, so i have this suggestion

 

 

 

one of these:

 

 

 

a more effective Darklight Special (decreases Magic and Defence, why don't it reduce freezing time or stop mages using spells if their reduced lvl cannot cast it?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MORE weapons with specials, perhaps ancient relics from the god wars/the times of Zaros which were used by the armies of those against Zaros and the Mahjarrat, having effects that stop ancient magicks being cast, or just protecting the wielder from freezing effects (more explained below)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MORE PRAYERS WITH BETTER EFFECTS! such as:

 

 

 

Burning Soul: 56 Prayer, only one allowed at once (AKA: instead of Protect from Magic) This prayer stops Ancient Magics being so damn effective against the user, but causes damage caused by melee or ranged more effective, and stuns more lasting

 

 

 

Elven Skills: 59 Prayer, only one allowed at once (AKA: instead of Protect from Ranged) This prayer increases the amount of time it takes for a crystal bow to break while the prayer is on (this prayer drains about 2x as slowly as any other prayer), a side effect is that magic and melee attacks are more effective, and your specials are slower

 

 

 

Pureness of Heart: 62 Prayer, only one allowed at one (AKA: instead of Protect from Melee) This prayer stops Barrows effects from being so damn evil against you, and cancels 10% of the damage done by barrows weapons, a side effect is that magic and ranged attacks are more effective against you and your attack, defence and strength are decreased randomly by 1 each time you are attacked by a different barrows person (aka: guy1 attacks, you lose 1 attack, guy2 attacks, you lose 1 defence)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

MORE ARMOURS with better magic defences:

 

 

 

hey! how about a new TzHaar armour is released, with a FULL SET effect that stops Ice Magic freezing you, and decreases the strength of Blood Magic. it would cost almost as much as all of the current TzHaar weapons put together, and have a weakness against arrows

 

 

 

the armour would require 75 Defence to use, due to effectiveness

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SPECIALS:

 

 

 

Flaming Blade: same stats as a Dragon Scimitar

 

 

 

SPEC: disables magic attacks for 15 seconds

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LavaTipped (LT) Arrows (poisonable)

 

 

 

these arrows can only be fired by a Yew Shortbow+ and have the stats of a adamant arrow. the way you poison them is by killing a new 'Poisonous Sea Serpent' (to find, you need to complete Throne of Miscellania and have 40 Slayer), and collect its poison in a vial. this vial poisons 20 arrows. the poison does 8 damage per normal poison period +2 seconds

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Ritual) Rites to Zaros (requires 2 blood, 2 death, and 2 chaos runes)

 

 

 

this ritual takes 2 times the Lumbridge HomePort, but is effective within 15 minutes of playing runescape. all ancients attacks only do 80% damage, and have no other effects, against the user.

 

 

 

the way people see this is by an icon that has a ancient magicks symbol on[/i]

[Hobgoblin11]

Whilst I think yours is a good suggestion, I don't see the need to change ancients at all. If you have done Desrt Treasure, you will know that it is a very hard quest. A quest that requires such calibre merits a high reward. For the difficulty of the quest needed to obtain Magicks, it is not overpowered. To use Ice Barrager, you also need level 94 Magic. Thisis not exactly easily obtainable either, and as a result, not many people can cast Ice Barrage. Yes, some can, but at such a high magic level they would do some serious damage even without Ice Barrage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Love it or hate it, it's here to stay - Ancients have been in the game too long to make any serious changes, and there has been only limited objection to the new spells.

[masterhw]

Wait, did i just waste 30 seconds of my life reading a complaing about a person getting owned by ancients all the time? I am sorry, suck it up.

[Dalcyte]

i personally don't like a lot this suggestion. First off, 94 mage takes an incredibly amount of dedication and effort to get, and the runes to cast it aren't cheap either. Second, if you're getting mad about this, train your range to 70 and wear black d dhie, it significantly decreases the effect of you getting hit by magic. Just because you don't like getting frozen and can't realize that you can still use magic and range, doesn't mean you have to create a whole balista of anti-ancients armor and prayers.

[strifen117]

this really isnt a fair argument at all.... what you would be doing here is taking the arguably weakest combat stat ( range owns all now) and making it so that all of the stuff that can make it compete with the other two and throw it out the window.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i may be biased due to the fact that i love mage and have 95 mage and love to barrage, but really some of this stuff just seems outrageous..... just throw on some d hide and if you need to use magic pray, but dont complain about getting owned by someone that can use these spells because they worked for them, most of them have 9million xp in this skill...... 9 million, give them a break im so tired of people complaining about ancients.... they r way overrated

[baron8000]

yep, bad idea, people with ancients deserve to own, with their high costs, and the effort needed to attain it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont have ancients, and im nowhere near the mage level to use it, and probably cant afford it the way barrows is going atm grrr.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but still, that high level guy with ancients, hes gona own you whether hes in ahrims and ancienting or in dragon with whip or torags, hell i regularly no armour duel a lvl 107 mate and he can punch me to death in my full rune it sucks but they are better :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Disagree

[Giordano]

Then range the Ancients.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mage -> Melee -> Rangers -> Mage

 

 

 

The 2D Model of the Combat Triangle.

[biggboyx313]

I think f2p should get one more mage armor becuz what we have now is so weak, at least give us blue mystic, please :P

[nacfan]

I think f2p should get one more mage armor becuz what we have now is so weak, at least give us blue mystic, please :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im f2p myself to, but am i wining for new stuff? no! they pay for it, so they should get more. ok its fair jagex should give an update once in few months to f2p to! im lvl 101 and always been f2p, its not that hard to train so why would u need member stuff? jsut train with the things u have!

[henk333]

This is hardly a suggestion, it's more like a rant by someone that plays cw in full rune and thinks it's unfair he gets owned by a mage :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm 94 mage and barrage from time to time in cw and if I have a good team against me I have a very tough time getting/defending the flag. Once they switch to full dragonhides or Karils I start splashing (even in full Ahrims) and they get away without much trouble. Sure if I'm up against a bunch of full runers I have the easiest game of my life, but that's the way the triangle is supposed to work. Quit complaining if you came unprepared for battle, mage beats melee and so it should be.

[confused]

Then range the Ancients.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mage -> Melee -> Rangers -> Mage

 

 

 

The 2D Model of the Combat Triangle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think you mean 1D. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have over 94 mage and if you knew how hard and expensive it is to get there, you'd understand why ancients own so much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All you need is a set of black dhide and we'll splash on you more often then not anyway.

[drapit]

Nice

[Kiriyama]

 

Then range the Ancients.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mage -> Melee -> Rangers -> Mage

 

 

 

The 2D Model of the Combat Triangle.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think you mean 1D. :P

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have over 94 mage and if you knew how hard and expensive it is to get there, you'd understand why ancients own so much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All you need is a set of black dhide and we'll splash on you more often then not anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually. Rune Plate, Black D hide legs, Glory , Barrows Gloves, Rune Boots and Rune Defender is a good combo.