Auberean Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 "I'm hipped on Freud and all that, but it's rotten that every bit of real love in the world is ninety-nine per cent passion and one little soup̮̤̉̉on jealousy." -F. Scott Fitzgerald Love - a feeling of strong attraction and affection towards another person. Characterized by willing self-sacrifice, and many other things. It's an abstract noun, and you'll just have to use your own definition, that's the best I can do. So, love. Does it exist in the true sense of the word? To be involved in love you have to be mature enough to understand the power that it can have. You have to be ready to give up many things in your life, all for a chance. At least, that's my opinion. But can it ever be truly real? With things such as passion, power, jealousy, revenge, and regret that will drive people into romantic relationships, how can you ever know where personal interest ends and true love begins? What is it that leads to love, why do people do it? Is it always a conscious decision, or just something that happens? Overall, does love tend to hurt people or help them? And...that's it. Sorry for the short main post, but that's all I'm able to transmit to words at the moment. A mind not to be changed by place or time.The mind is its own place, and in itselfCan make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Well, you tell me. I gave up trying to have sex with every cute girl I meet for the sake of my girlfriend. For her part, she gave up being so uptight about me checking out other girls every now and then. It's a wonderful relationship. We're secure enough about each other to let the little things slide. She knows I'll care for her no matter what, and vice versa. Plus she cooks good food. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_rule Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Well, you tell me. I gave up trying to have sex with every cute girl I meet for the sake of my girlfriend. For her part, she gave up being so uptight about me checking out other girls every now and then. It's a wonderful relationship. We're secure enough about each other to let the little things slide. She knows I'll care for her no matter what, and vice versa. Plus she cooks good food. the key in any good relationship :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'm sad, but at the same time I'm really happy that somethin' could make me feel that sad. It's like it makes me feel alive, you know? It makes me feel human. And the only way I could feel this sad now is if I felt somethin' really good before. So I have to take the bad with the good, so I guess what I'm feelin' is like a, beautiful sadness. That's pretty much my thoughts on love and pain. They go hand in hand. My relationship is more of a product of chance, but I don't regret it at all. We've had some tough times but how I see it, problems are just a part of life. No matter who I'll be with. So it doesn't make me regret when something troubles us. It's painful sometimes, but we just face it together. So to summarize my answer to your question, it does both. :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auberean Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 Well, you tell me. I gave up trying to have sex with every cute girl I meet for the sake of my girlfriend. For her part, she gave up being so uptight about me checking out other girls every now and then. It's a wonderful relationship. We're secure enough about each other to let the little things slide. She knows I'll care for her no matter what, and vice versa. Plus she cooks good food. the key in any good relationship :) What I'm getting at here is - doesn't viewing the cooking as a factor actually detract from true love? Aaaaaand...I'm not making any sense again. A mind not to be changed by place or time.The mind is its own place, and in itselfCan make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusqi Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 What interests me, is how when you're at school, and there are lots of people that you can be friends with, people tend to be very exclusive. They only tend to talk to people in their age group, people that are in a similar cultural group, and people with similar interests. However, if you put two random people together in a room for an hour, who don't talk normally.. they'll probably get along fine. They become friends with one another, because that's all there is. I think that this can apply to love also, it's based on opportunity. Your partner might be one in a million at the moment, but if there were only 10 people left in the world, you'd probably still find one of them to fall in love with (and in both cases you'd convince yourself that it was true love). For it is the greyness of dusk that reigns.The time when the living and the dead exist as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonorhc Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 What I'm getting at here is - doesn't viewing the cooking as a factor actually detract from true love? Aaaaaand...I'm not making any sense again. Of course not. Part of a relationship is understanding the reasons why you like to be with the other person. It's not simply a matter of sacrifices. If you don't know why you like to spend time with your significant other, it may as well be simple infatuation. As time goes on, you learn more and more about each other, and you come to appreciate the good traits as well as the bad. And for the record, I met her at a fencing competition. Varrock Library: Shattered Sky | Silent Thunder | The Emperor's FinestAstri @ MythWeavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diminished2b Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 It's all circumstancial. Meet the right person at the right time, and you've got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astralinre Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 This is the definition of love I'll be using in this thread: Love is the disposition of the will towards the good of another person. It's accompanied by emotion, but is not purely emotion. It always leads to action on behalf of the beloved. It nurtures, builds up, and places the beloved above the lover. That said, I believe that loving someone is a very hard thing to do, and that humans can never do it perfectly. However, we should still strive to love - we cannot love perfectly, but we can love to a degree. Human love is always imperfect because it is, to some degree, based on need. We love because we need that love to be returned, or we pretend to love in order to get what we want. In any case, the lover's will is not purely for his beloved's good, but for his own good as well. "In so far as I am Man I am the chief of creatures. In so far as I am a man I am the chief of sinners." - G.K. Chesterton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushrock Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I'm sad, but at the same time I'm really happy that somethin' could make me feel that sad. It's like it makes me feel alive, you know? It makes me feel human. And the only way I could feel this sad now is if I felt somethin' really good before. So I have to take the bad with the good, so I guess what I'm feelin' is like a, beautiful sadness. That's pretty much my thoughts on love and pain. They go hand in hand. My relationship is more of a product of chance, but I don't regret it at all. We've had some tough times but how I see it, problems are just a part of life. No matter who I'll be with. So it doesn't make me regret when something troubles us. It's painful sometimes, but we just face it together. So to summarize my answer to your question, it does both. How do people get those extra smileys?!?!?! :x Anyway, I think love is pretty hard to find. You see all those teens on MTV who talk about how the propped - up teen is their "dream, one and only". It's much harder than that. To find true love, we must go deep inside ourselves and dig up all our precious feelings and examine them carefully until we reach a decision. It exists, but it's like buried treasure - you want it, but it's so hard to get... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 How do people get those extra smileys?!?!?! :x The elves magically transform them when I post for the spirit of Christmas. :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trapical Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 How do people get those extra smileys?!?!?! :x The elves magically transform them when I post for the spirit of Christmas. Lol, nice. On a more serious note I doubted love throughout high school. Later on I met a girl who I felt so much towards that I was just happy being near her, as stalker-ish as that sounds. I just really love hanging out with her and will make ridiculous personal sacrifices to do it (ran for and became secretary of a club since she was also an officer and then I could attend the officer meetings with her ). For one reason or another even though she is really cute I simply don't seem that sexually attracted to her. :-k I think that may be for the better though, she has a boyfriend. We're just friends but there is more to it then that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pro28 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 How do people get those extra smileys?!?!?! :x The elves magically transform them when I post for the spirit of Christmas. Haha, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issy2 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 *Tall, proud Elizabethan guy in a tunic and velvet pointing to the sky with arms wide* LOVE SOUTH IS GOOD, BUT LOVE UNSOUGHT IS BETTER!' *woman picking at teeth with knife* So, d'ya fancy me then or not? Ha, anyway. I think you can love someone without wanting to, and there are so many factors it can never truly be defined. It's different for anyone, as far as I'm concerned, but it's someone you care about and feel 100% comfortable with. [/i] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I believe that we can't choose the people we fall in love with. Although it may be a reflection of what we personally like in a person, I think that if you really love them you love them not because they're the best looking girl, or the funniest, or the nicest, but just because there's something about them that leaves you absolutely awestruck. You'd do anything for that person, because she means more to you than anything else in the world. You would fight for her, cry for her, laugh for her, die for her, do anything to make her happy and give everything just to see her smile. It's not always about just wanting to be with her as well. As much as you may want to, if you really love someone, sometimes you have to realise that they'd be happier with someone else. And that hurts, a lot. Trust me. Is passionate true love essential for happiness? I don't think so. I think you can be perfectly happy (sometimes happier) when you're just enjoying life with friends and family. If you can find true love, that's awesome, but don't let the lack of it get you down. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompey_spud Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 How do people get those extra smileys?!?!?! :x The elves magically transform them when I post for the spirit of Christmas. Lol, nice. On a more serious note I doubted love throughout high school. Later on I met a girl who I felt so much towards that I was just happy being near her, as stalker-ish as that sounds. I just really love hanging out with her and will make ridiculous personal sacrifices to do it (ran for and became secretary of a club since she was also an officer and then I could attend the officer meetings with her ). For one reason or another even though she is really cute I simply don't seem that sexually attracted to her. :-k I think that may be for the better though, she has a boyfriend. We're just friends but there is more to it then that... same here, but for me it was much earlier. when i first started secondary school, i instantely fell for this one girl, but every said it was a crush. however in the last 5 years i have put my hand in a fire to get her bracelet back (hospital all evening ftw), punched a teacher for insulting her (suspended for a week ftw) and worst of all, i smashed a bottle over my best friends head (hes way harder than me btw) for coming on to her. ( being KO'ed ftw) I would essentially do anything for her and i adore her, but its not a sexual thing. i go to bed and just dream of her, nothing dirty and its enough to make me wake up happy. I wish you all this in the future : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issy2 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 How do people get those extra smileys?!?!?! :x The elves magically transform them when I post for the spirit of Christmas. Lol, nice. On a more serious note I doubted love throughout high school. Later on I met a girl who I felt so much towards that I was just happy being near her, as stalker-ish as that sounds. I just really love hanging out with her and will make ridiculous personal sacrifices to do it (ran for and became secretary of a club since she was also an officer and then I could attend the officer meetings with her ). For one reason or another even though she is really cute I simply don't seem that sexually attracted to her. :-k I think that may be for the better though, she has a boyfriend. We're just friends but there is more to it then that... same here, but for me it was much earlier. when i first started secondary school, i instantely fell for this one girl, but every said it was a crush. however in the last 5 years i have put my hand in a fire to get her bracelet back (hospital all evening ftw), punched a teacher for insulting her (suspended for a week ftw) and worst of all, i smashed a bottle over my best friends head (hes way harder than me btw) for coming on to her. ( being KO'ed ftw) I would essentially do anything for her and i adore her, but its not a sexual thing. i go to bed and just dream of her, nothing dirty and its enough to make me wake up happy. I wish you all this in the future : I'm really not trying to disrespect what you're saying or anything, but if you really respected and loved her, you should respect her choice to be with who she wants. But hey, putting your hand in a fire to rescure her bracelet? That's mad but really, really sweet. My brother's first girlfriend gave him a chocolate coin for his birthday lol about 7 months ago, in March, and he's frozen it and promised never to eat it. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompey_spud Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 same here, but for me it was much earlier. when i first started secondary school, i instantely fell for this one girl, but every said it was a crush. however in the last 5 years i have put my hand in a fire to get her bracelet back (hospital all evening ftw), punched a teacher for insulting her (suspended for a week ftw) and worst of all, i smashed a bottle over my best friends head (hes way harder than me btw) for coming on to her. ( being KO'ed ftw) I would essentially do anything for her and i adore her, but its not a sexual thing. i go to bed and just dream of her, nothing dirty and its enough to make me wake up happy. I wish you all this in the future : I'm really not trying to disrespect what you're saying or anything, but if you really respected and loved her, you should respect her choice to be with who she wants. But hey, putting your hand in a fire to rescure her bracelet? That's mad but really, really sweet. My brother's first girlfriend gave him a chocolate coin for his birthday lol about 7 months ago, in March, and he's frozen it and promised never to eat it. :roll: well she wasn't interested in him at all, and he was drunk at the time, AND he already has a GF, so make what you will of it : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
issy2 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 same here, but for me it was much earlier. when i first started secondary school, i instantely fell for this one girl, but every said it was a crush. however in the last 5 years i have put my hand in a fire to get her bracelet back (hospital all evening ftw), punched a teacher for insulting her (suspended for a week ftw) and worst of all, i smashed a bottle over my best friends head (hes way harder than me btw) for coming on to her. ( being KO'ed ftw) I would essentially do anything for her and i adore her, but its not a sexual thing. i go to bed and just dream of her, nothing dirty and its enough to make me wake up happy. I wish you all this in the future : I'm really not trying to disrespect what you're saying or anything, but if you really respected and loved her, you should respect her choice to be with who she wants. But hey, putting your hand in a fire to rescure her bracelet? That's mad but really, really sweet. My brother's first girlfriend gave him a chocolate coin for his birthday lol about 7 months ago, in March, and he's frozen it and promised never to eat it. :roll: well she wasn't interested in him at all, and he was drunk at the time, AND he already has a GF, so make what you will of it : Ah, ok, that explains it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragen Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 you should respect her choice to be with who she wants. Thats the hardest and IMO true test of wether you love them. Wether you can let them go, for their sake. Thanks Venomai for this super sig and Kwimbob for the awesome avatar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadfdfd Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 How do people get those extra smileys?!?!?! :x The elves magically transform them when I post for the spirit of Christmas. My Tingling Senses tell me that that smily came from http://smiliesftw.com/x/xmaswiggle.gif Smilies FTW! *Wink Wink, Nudge Nudge* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 My Tingling Senses tell me that that smily came from http://smiliesftw.com/x/xmaswiggle.gif Smilies FTW! *Wink Wink, Nudge Nudge* Rofl, what's funnier is that you sound so proud :: Guess the Movie Contest Champion: pfilc23 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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