When should I move on?

[Hidhaeg]

I have full mithril armour, with a mithril scimitar, and an amulet of strength.

 

 

 

My attack, defence, and strength are all level 25.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What level would be best for me to move onto the next stage of the Stronghold of Security, I'm currently training on level one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Would you say now? Or wait until I'm level 35 in each, or what? :)

[Hidhaeg]

Also, training has become a bit easy on level one. My combat level is 31, where should I train?

[rushrock]

Move on to level two.

[Hidhaeg]

Move on to level two.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Which creatures on level 2 would be best to train on?

[rushrock]

 

Move on to level two.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Which creatures on level 2 would be best to train on?

 

 

 

The highest level ones. I think you're strong enough.

[flamable20]

I would be careful, I used to try and die very often at ur lvl.

[elmo_killer6]

if you do decide to go level two id recomend minotaurs so you get iron arrows for range

[Randomnameless]

The best advice is for you just to see for yourself. We don't know for sure weather you will be fine or not, so doing it for you self is best. Also What we think is of fine might not be to you .

[Hidhaeg]

Just to be safe, I'm going to wait until I'm combat level 40. ;)

[Goobore]

Just to be safe, I'm going to wait until I'm combat level 40. ;)

 

 

 

Why do you think that you need to "move on" anyway?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In general, players train either for loot for for exp.

 

 

 

The best loot comes from higher level monsters but

 

 

 

the fastest training comes from lower level monsters.

 

 

 

You earn exp only according to the hit that you do.

 

 

 

So, hitting a 5 on a minotaur will earn you the exact same exp

 

 

 

as hitting a 5 on a Greater Demon.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If your goal is to get "fast exp" then you want to fight monsters that

 

 

 

-- are always available

 

 

 

-- are "quickly" killed

 

 

 

-- can't hurt you much

 

 

 

-- don't require much food

 

 

 

-- respawn often

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, I would fight whatever stronghold monsters are like the above for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hope this helps

[Umega]

I would train on zombies in the Edgeville dungeon, or even better: kill some hill giants while you're down there to.

[Goldenjkered]

if you do decide to go level two id recomend minotaurs so you get iron arrows for range

 

 

 

The minotaurs are on lvl 1 not lvl 2. :roll:

[Hidhaeg]

Oh, heh. I feel like a moron.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So it doesn't matter what level the creature is, because the XP is generated according to the 'hit' you perform on said creature?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:uhh:

[Goobore]

...So it doesn't matter what level the creature is, because the XP is

 

 

 

generated according to the 'hit' you perform on said creature?

 

 

 

Yes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You earn HitDone*4/3 in HP exp and HitDone*4 in melee exp.

 

 

 

If you are training in the controlled style then the melee exp is split equally

 

 

 

bewtween Atk, Str, and Def. Otherwise it all goes towards the style that you selected.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, the higher the monster's level, the higher it's defense

 

 

 

will be, and the harder it will be to get a decent hit.

 

 

 

So, in that sense, higher level monsters actually slow down your leveling.

 

 

 

(But the drops are better)

 

 

 

In addition, higher level monsters will also hit you harder.

 

 

 

So, your gonna need more food for healing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm a level 100 F2Per and I regularly train on monsters under level 30.

 

 

 

The trick is that there has to be a lot of them around so I can be killing constantly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hope this helps

[starsteller]

 

...So it doesn't matter what level the creature is, because the XP is

 

 

 

generated according to the 'hit' you perform on said creature?

 

 

 

Yes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You earn HitDone*4/3 in HP exp and HitDone*4 in melee exp.

 

 

 

If you are training in the controlled style then the melee exp is split equally

 

 

 

bewtween Atk, Str, and Def. Otherwise it all goes towards the style that you selected.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, the higher the monster's level, the higher it's defense

 

 

 

will be, and the harder it will be to get a decent hit.

 

 

 

So, in that sense, higher level monsters actually slow down your leveling.

 

 

 

(But the drops are better)

 

 

 

In addition, higher level monsters will also hit you harder.

 

 

 

So, your gonna need more food for healing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm a level 100 F2Per and I regularly train on monsters under level 30.

 

 

 

The trick is that there has to be a lot of them around so I can be killing constantly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hope this helps

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's actually best to find an monster that' doesn't hit you much but you spend some time killing it, so you don't spend too long finding the next monster. I still train on those level 12 minotaurs at level 45 (ok, I was training my lame range. But still. I'm amazed I didn't get called a noob)

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would train on zombies in the Edgeville dungeon, or even better: kill some hill giants while you're down there to.

 

 

 

Don't try hill giants. It takes forever to find one to kill.

[Goobore]

...It's actually best to find an monster that' doesn't hit you much but you

 

 

 

spend some time killing it, so you don't spend too long finding the next monster.

 

 

 

That means that you are using the wrong monster.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All that you have to do is to find quickly killed lower level monsters that

 

 

 

spawn frequently. Almost all of the monsters in the stronghold of security

 

 

 

spawn fast enough so you can be killing constantly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The OP could also try cows, Al-Kharid palace guards, monks, or pirates.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, if it takes some time to kill then it will probably be hurting you as well.

 

 

 

That means you will need more healing food.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hope this helps

[mr_nub_nub]

I dont know if you mean to beat the level and get to the next, because i did that at level 5 on this acc ( my other acc was 45 when the update came out, hes not in use anymore ), or if ur looking for training, try attack level 25 expiraments in fenkensteins castle, there weak and have i think around 50 hp ( 200 exp a pop ), but dont have a good drop. You can also try theives member, they drop herbs quickly. Guards are good member, they drop level 2 scrolls, very good money plus u can get ur self some addy trimmed :thumbsup: . Free monsters, hmmm... a little more thought.... well, here what i did at level 40 ( dont try without a rune wep ) - go to karamanja, fish a full inv of tuna ( or better ), and go inside the volcano. Fight a few lessers ( u should have arfound 40 str and att, around 35 hp and def ) Dont try to kill more then 3 at a time at level 40 ( you shouldnt have enough food to anyway ), but u should advance levels quickly, get good $$$, and also the rune med drop. Do this till you are capabale of killing a lesser with no food, or 1 or 2 peices. Also, at around 45, try killing the dragon, its overrated, i did it at 43 att, 45 str, 37 def, full addy, rune scim, amulet of protection, of couse antidrag sheild, and a varrock tele incase i get owned :x . YHou should get the ex boost to level a few levels. Also, a quick tip in prayer, dont buy bbones, there overrated, only 13 exp a normal bones gives 6 and is much easier to find ( go to the chicken farm on a crowded world ). I know its a long post but just trying to help someone :

[Hidhaeg]

Now, I've run into a little problem.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can defeat the majority of monsters fine, but wizards totally pwn me!! Is there any shields that block magic?

[rft]

The problem is that your melee armour has negative magic defense so you will actually be hit less if you are not wearng any armour at all. The best way to take on wizards is to wear wizards clothes (which offer magic defense) and melee (or even better range) them. Haveing a decent magic level will help your magic defense too.

[Doomster]

Wear range armour (and anti-dragonfire shield) if you want to melee the Wizards.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In general, for a training monster:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You want to hit often (most important), you want to hit high, if the monster lasts a long time (has high hitpoints, but poor defence), so much the better. It also helps if it is plentiful, and not too busy (many of the "better" ones leave you waiting to get one in single combat, or getting very few hits in multi). You also don't want to be getting hit too much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The main reason for "moving up" is if you are taking lower level monsters down so fast that you waste time taking the next one, or if you want better or different drops.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On level 2, I'd say the Flesh Crawlers are about the weakest, they only seem to hit 1's an 2's on my pure. Take a trip to the southeast room (Crawlers only), and enjoy the ride as they auto-attack (all level aggressive!), just make sure you have a full load of food to start, and an use the free home port spell to bail out from within the door space, if you can't make it back to the portal. The two on the approach, my mithril weaponed iron pure (with low strength) whacked about 5 of them on trout - with mithril armour and better strength, should be easier (this is actually a "sceptre pure" of mine, so the melee stats are a bit of an afterthought - and GOT the sceptre piece there).

[Goobore]

Now, I've run into a little problem.

 

 

 

I can defeat the majority of monsters fine, but wizards totally pwn me!!

 

 

 

Is there any shields that block magic?

 

 

 

Well, remember the combat triangle

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Melee beats rangers

 

 

 

Rangers beat wizards

 

 

 

Wizards beat melee

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, if you plan on fighting wizards then you should be wearing ranging gear.

 

 

 

You can get a anti-dragon breath shield, if you want, free from the Duke of Lumbridge

 

 

 

but your main problem is all of the metal armor that you are wearing.

 

 

 

Bank it and then put on some green dragonhide.

 

 

 

You can still use your sword, of course.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hope this helps

[Goobore]

...The main reason for "moving up" is if you are taking lower level monsters down so

 

 

 

fast that you waste time taking the next one, or if you want better or different drops...

 

 

 

See, my take on that would be to find another set of training

 

 

 

monsters instead of assuming that I must "move up".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What matters to me is the Exp per hour that I earn.

 

 

 

So, If lower level monsters provide me with more Exp

 

 

 

in an hours training, then that's where I'll be.

 

 

 

I'm always looking for monsters that provide me with constant non-stop slaughter.

 

 

 

As long as the next monster is a swords reach away, I'm happy :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yeah, you're right, the Stronghold monsters provide for great training.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hope this helps