Can God Hate?

[thedepressedsquirrel]

 

 

 

You don't need to come back with a rebuttal

 

 

 

I hope he does come back with a rebuttal so that I can penetrate it.

[tripsis]

Lets please try to keep this conversation directly related to the topic. The purpose of this thread was not to debate about the credibility of different religions, or "flying spaghetti monsters." It was created to discuss that if there is A God, could he hate?

[BlueTear]

I'd say no.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think it's possible to hate someone if you understand them fully, and what omnipotent being would lack that understanding. There's no random element to the actions of an individual creature and a being on the order of magnitude usually assigned to God would know each and every reason for each and every action.

[insane]

 

 

 

 

You don't need to come back with a rebuttal

 

 

 

I hope he does come back with a rebuttal so that I can penetrate it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, sure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your flying spaghetti monster is deemed to be a material being, God is not. Since it's contradictory to laws of physics for spaghetti to be intelligent and fly, your spaghetti monster cannot exist. God however, is a non-material being and thus science is completely irrelevant to His being.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now let's stop this crap about things designed to insult other's beliefs, it's quite intolerant.

[BlueLancer]

It is intolerant, however I'll stop arguing about it since I agree with tripsis, that's not the point of the thread. Though, you are again arguing something about 'God' (i.e. he's intelligent) which you can't know for sure. And a God surely could fly, but I realise this is getting off topic.

[Tigra00]

 

 

 

 

 

You don't need to come back with a rebuttal

 

 

 

I hope he does come back with a rebuttal so that I can penetrate it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, sure.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your flying spaghetti monster is deemed to be a material being, God is not. Since it's contradictory to laws of physics for spaghetti to be intelligent and fly, your spaghetti monster cannot exist. God however, is a non-material being and thus science is completely irrelevant to His being.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now let's stop this crap about things designed to insult other's beliefs, it's quite intolerant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Umm...He's the flying spaghetti monster. He can do whatever he wants.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Woot, 1+ for using Christian theology on the spaghetti monster!)

[TheLastTemplar]

Come on, flooding and killing the entire world? Harsh dude.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OH, and i suppose that you understand God? Have you read Genesis? or are you going by what you have heard?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

One problem here is that You are limiting God, the almighty the one who created you(and yes He did) to your inferior created mind. If you could fully understand God well, He wouldn't be God.I do not even remotely understand God. Yes God hates, he Hates sin, and since evryone (yes everyonesins even me) sins we all deserve death.Since we sin we are enemies of God, but Since Jesus Christ payed the price for all of those whom God has chosen to beleive. God is justified for killing whom he pleases and when he please. It may sound harsh but you are NOT God and therefore do not fully comprehend God.

[elmo_killer6]

i dont know if i could really anwser that question cause im not catholic but i think god could probably be personified to hate thats why people go to hell in christian belief ( i think like i said i dunno)

[warri0r45]

Yes God hates, he Hates sin, and since evryone (yes everyonesins even me) sins we all deserve death.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

im sure god can hate.. but his own creation? you said it yourself, god created us (and to my understanding, in his own image) which would mean that he knew we were going to sin... right? otherwise he wouldnt be all-powerful/all-knowing/whatever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To say that us sinning means we deserve death would mean that God himself deserves death.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How about this, do you think god can sin? If not, then how is it possible that we sin if we were created in his image. Otherwise, what is the inspiration behind creating sin? Whats the point of making us all 'sinners' just so we are doomed to hell if we dont 'ask for forgivness'... forgiveness from what?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry for existing god... :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(harsh, i know, but the point of this is to take the 'can god hate' idea to see if you think god can sin. flame/hate/whatever)

[TheLastTemplar]

Why he didn't just make us un sinfull..I don't know. God does not deserve death because he has done nothing wrong. im sure that you have NEVER done anythin wrong..oh...no doubt... I know that i have done wrong. You need forgiveness for the life of SIN you are living.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Argueing with you will lead to one of two things..

 

 

 

1. YOU WILL NOT understand this because you are not of God's chosen,(maybe you are maybe you aren't) The bible says..The message of te Cross is FOOLISHNESS to those who do not know it.

 

 

 

2. I can get you to make a 360 degree turn and come to christ.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is your Signature meaning?

[BlueLancer]

 

 

 

1. YOU WILL NOT understand this because you are not of God's chosen,(maybe you are maybe you aren't) The bible says..The message of te Cross is FOOLISHNESS to those who do not know it.

 

 

 

2. I can get you to make a 360 degree turn and come to christ.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your post is so ridiculous I'm actually laughing for real after reading that part. :lol: I may not be the only one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. You have a *huge* ego. Keep on feeding it by thinking "God has chosen you".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. You can't convince ANYONE to join a religion on an internet message board with simple passages from the Bible. I have read the Bible, Qur'an, Torah (and other "holy" scriptures), and I can guarantee you can't torture me into 'accepting' any of those religions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

God does not deserve death because he has done nothing wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why don't you pick up the Bible and read Ezekiel 9:5 (9, chapter 5) and explain me how he can order the exclusive killing of old people, women and children, and still acted "justly"? What were those people doing wrong that "God" ordered to kill them all, especially old people and children?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Do please come back with something more than "He's God, he can do anything". That one's been used a few hundred times too much on this forum.

[Nadril]

What is your Signature meaning?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

do you mean:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

\m/ LAMB of GOD \m/

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if so... thats a metalcore band :/.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. I can get you to make a 360 degree turn and come to christ.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really now? Go for it, I'm all open eared.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To tell the truth, templar, all I hear from you right now is "blablabla i'm christian so i'm right blablabla".

[warri0r45]

..im sure that you have NEVER done anythin wrong..oh...no doubt... I know that i have done wrong. You need forgiveness for the life of SIN you are living.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as it has been said by someone above, yea i think your ego is a bit big, i never said i havent done anything wrong in my life.. i just dont agree with someone saying i need to be forgiven by a god who made me the way i am. If its my free will that makes me sin, you still cant escape the fact that god made us with free will.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and as for my signature... lamb of god are a metalcore band, possibly my favourite band of the broader 'heavy metal' genre.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Argueing with you will lead to one of two things..

 

 

 

1. YOU WILL NOT understand this because you are not of God's chosen,(maybe you are maybe you aren't) The bible says..The message of te Cross is FOOLISHNESS to those who do not know it.

 

 

 

2. I can get you to make a 360 degree turn and come to christ.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the fact that you say i wont understand because 'im not one of god's chosen' makes me feel you are a really arrogant person.

 

 

 

added to this, if you had a basic knowlege of christianity (which i believe i do) you would know that god dosent have favourites.. we are all the same in his eyes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

as for number 2... i welcome you to try and convert my way of thinking.

[Tigra00]

Well, this is hilarious.

[assassin_696]

Why he didn't just make us un sinfull..I don't know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We're not born sinful. Just because Adam and Eve ate of the fruit all those years ago doesn't mean that babies born today are therefore born sinful because of something which they could do nothing about and didn't do. God didn't make us "un-sinful" because we have free will. I'm not one myself, but from what i've read Christians believe that free will is what set us apart. We have the choice to do right or wrong. We don't have to commit to sin, we're not born with our fates set out ahead of us and that we'll all commit sins. But we have the choice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, you seem to me like a fairly fundamental Christian, so according to you probably working on the Sabbath is a sin, gambling is a sin and worshipping anything but the "one god" is a sin. Therefore, yes, by nature nearly everyone will commit sin at some point because of the archaic nature of those "sins" and how they don't really fit in with other religions and today's laws.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree, going through life without committing a christian sin would probably be one hell of a challenge, not impossible, because we have the choice, but a challenge.