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this is kinda a mini-personal announcement for me, so ehem, im learning Dutch, i live in North Carolina.

 

 

 

i am teaching it to myself, if anyone knows any good teaching teqniques or a good software/book/cd to get to help maximize my learning experience, or if you want to give me a few tips PM me or reply to this :)

 

 

 

know that there is a big Dutch runescape community, aswell as Tip.it Dutch population, so thats why i posted it here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thanks, i don't expect many replys from this since it is such a specific topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:lol: :D :) :) :D :lol:

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Teach yourself books. It's how I'm learning Swedish.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or you could try Rosseta Stone if you have a few $100 you have nothing to do with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dutch Forum From Tip It User

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

However, all the Dutch people are sleeping right now. Shhh... O:)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Err, no.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You'll find the majority of the belgians on here also are native dutch speakers by the way. So if you run into trouble just ask.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mind you, from what I hear dutch isn't all that easy to learn ;)

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Mind you, from what I hear dutch isn't all that easy to learn ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The irregular verbs can drive someone insane. :XD:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's no worse then french ;) (the average dutch person somehow can't speak decent french, not even if their life would depend on it).

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Mind you, from what I hear dutch isn't all that easy to learn ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The irregular verbs can drive someone insane. :XD:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

theres always going to be obsticles while learning a language

 

 

 

even while speaking pig-latin, there are irregular words :shock:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Btw, Yeah i know alot of Belgians speak Dutch, and thats one of the reasons that im learning it, is because my family Migrated from begium in 1939

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Mind you, from what I hear dutch isn't all that easy to learn ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The irregular verbs can drive someone insane. :XD:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's no worse then french ;) (the average dutch person somehow can't speak decent french, not even if their life would depend on it).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vouloir to want

 

 

 

Pouvoir to be able to

 

 

 

Etre to be

 

 

 

Aller to go

 

 

 

Avoir to have

 

 

 

Prendre to take

 

 

 

Faire to do, to make

 

 

 

Conduire to drive

 

 

 

Connaitre to know

 

 

 

Croire to believe

 

 

 

Devoir to have to, to owe

 

 

 

Dire to say

 

 

 

Dormir to sleep

 

 

 

Lire to read

 

 

 

Mettre to put

 

 

 

Partir to leave

 

 

 

Savoir to know

 

 

 

Voir to see

 

 

 

Servir to serve

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I am just a first year!

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I learned my languages at an early age. So I was at an advantage. But if I really want to learn. I recommend you immerse yourself into that culture.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hell, go live in Holland. You'll be forced to learn the language quicker than I could take your mothers underwear off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go listen to dutch music. watch dutch movies/tv. Play games in dutch. The mind will slowly pick it. A dicitionary by your side won't hurt.

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I don't speak Dutch, but this will be my sixth year of learning French as a second language. After 5 continuous years, I mainly improve my skills by myself now (the school teaches it too slow). For speaking: listen to music in that language. Even if you don't understand it, get a feel of the accents, points of emphasis. Heck, I listen to Phantom of the Opera in French without understanding half, but it's helped with listening, and singing along (hmm) has definitely helped my speaking confidence. I'm not sure if it works as well with other languages, but yeah, worth a try.

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Thank you very much for the suggestions y'all, but im sry grim i can't go to Holland to soon.. i wish i could go to europe, but my family has to let me and it would cost alot, and i would have to work it into one of my breaks from school

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Thank you very much for the suggestions y'all, but im sry grim i can't go to Holland to soon.. i wish i could go to europe, but my family has to let me and it would cost alot, and i would have to work it into one of my breaks from school

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, that's just one thing you can do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I never lived in America or any other english speaking country when I learned English. English was brought to me through the media.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Go with the music/tv/books perhaps. Your mind will slowly pick it up.

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Grim, does that really work? I have some understanding of Swedish and are wondering if that really does work? Would it work for grammar? Maybe it's good for speaking and understanding (like immersion), but not for writing and reading, because that involves grammar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW, where did you live?

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Grim, does that really work? I have some understanding of Swedish and are wondering if that really does work? Would it work for grammar? Maybe it's good for speaking and understanding (like immersion), but not for writing and reading, because that involves grammar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW, where did you live?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The best way to learn a language is live in the culture, period. And if you cant live in the culture, atleast surround yourself with it. It most definitely works, and is most definitely better than any language program out there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A year living in deutschland is 100 times better than a year of deutsch classes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not exactly shure if it works with the oriental languages, as well as non-similar languages. That would probably be very confusing :P

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A year living in deutschland is 100 times better than a year of deutsch classes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't argue that, but it would seem (using immersion ie. not actually going to the country), that English would distract your brain. Maybe...?

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A year living in deutschland is 100 times better than a year of deutsch classes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can't argue that, but it would seem (using immersion ie. not actually going to the country), that English would distract your brain. Maybe...?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It probably would, but reading childrens books first, than working your way up would work. It would take alot of intelligence (context clues) and effort, but it would work. Especially if you could find some books with side by side translations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A good example is in the movie "the terminal" shure its just a movie, but thats how it preety much all works.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I actually found that the other language you are attmepting to learn distracts you. Im currently taking deutsch at school, and I find myself thinking in it alot. It gets confusing, in a good way though. It shows your immersion into the language.

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Grim, does that really work? I have some understanding of Swedish and are wondering if that really does work? Would it work for grammar? Maybe it's good for speaking and understanding (like immersion), but not for writing and reading, because that involves grammar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BTW, where did you live?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm living proof.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I used to live in Romania when I was younger. Now I live in Canada. I had access to English Games, music and even a few books.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In order to learn the language you basically have to have it around you 24/7. Grammar shouldn't be an issue, seeing as music/games etc. have usually good grammar.

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In order to learn the language you basically have to have it around you 24/7.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea, that's where English and school are conflicts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you were only younger. Your mind can pick anything up. Try surrounding yourself with the language on the weekends where school and such cannot conflict. If you can get friends to help out, it's a big plus.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Classes also suck for learning as people learn languages at their own pace.

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I can count to ten in dutch thanks to some online trial or something...

 

 

 

een

 

 

 

twee

 

 

 

drie

 

 

 

vier

 

 

 

vijf

 

 

 

zes

 

 

 

zaven zeven

 

 

 

acht

 

 

 

negan negen

 

 

 

tien

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ha! I can speak dutch, sort of \' \'

But yeah, Dutch is a hard language. An example that still almost no Dutchie can do right:

 

 

 

'He becomes' means in Dutch ''Hij wordt''. Now, 'I become' means ''Ik word''. The difference, a ''t'' after the d is still very hard to understand to know when you have to put that ''t'' there. Well, I'm decent in it now. But I still make faults with it. :P

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Michele Thomas tapes... seriously, they're amazing. A series of about 12 CDs you listen to in your spare time. All you do is listen to Mr Thomas talking, and practise with him. IT doesn't help your reading and writing but you should be able to speak fluent Dutch in a few months.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actualy, one problem... :uhh: Michele Thomas does them in French, English, German, Italian, Norwegian (I think) Spanish... not sure about Dutch... :-s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Michel Thomas, linguist and language teacher, who has died aged 90, became a household name through his "no-writing, no-memorising" language tapes, which were audio bestsellers.

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