ikzelf100 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I can count to ten in dutch thanks to some online trial or something... een twee drie vier vijf zes zaven acht negan tien Ha! I can speak dutch, sort of \ \ no it is negen not negan and zeven not zaven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikzelf100 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 aif you need any help on grammar i know most stuff perectly well and am quite good at explaining it but you can live 5 years in holland and still dont speak dutch good :cry: that hard language it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunapasa Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Good luck, I think it's one of the most illogical languages in the world (I'm Dutch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knight10071 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I'm doing a bilangual course (Dutch/English) and it's true, the best option to learn a language is do as much as you can with it. Dutch is one of the hardest languages to learn for foreigners (sp?). If you want to talk with me, feel free to add me in rs (knight10071, just say that you're the "one learning dutch" and I'll know who you are, you can also add me on MSN (pm me for my adress) but I'm not on a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markup Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I don't speak Dutch, but this will be my sixth year of learning French as a second language. After 5 continuous years, I mainly improve my skills by myself now (the school teaches it too slow). For speaking: listen to music in that language. Even if you don't understand it, get a feel of the accents, points of emphasis. Heck, I listen to Phantom of the Opera in French without understanding half, but it's helped with listening, and singing along (hmm) has definitely helped my speaking confidence. I'm not sure if it works as well with other languages, but yeah, worth a try. Phantom of the Opera, in French? Where did you get it from? I would sure like to listen to it : ~MAK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I don't speak Dutch, but this will be my sixth year of learning French as a second language. After 5 continuous years, I mainly improve my skills by myself now (the school teaches it too slow). For speaking: listen to music in that language. Even if you don't understand it, get a feel of the accents, points of emphasis. Heck, I listen to Phantom of the Opera in French without understanding half, but it's helped with listening, and singing along (hmm) has definitely helped my speaking confidence. I'm not sure if it works as well with other languages, but yeah, worth a try. Phantom of the Opera, in French? Where did you get it from? I would sure like to listen to it : ~MAK The DVD, put it in French. : Or use Amazon.com and find the French cast. I always thought Dutch was a fairly easy language, and German was the hard one, though they are somewhat similar. I looked into Dutch a little, and one of the first things they mentioned was that 't' rule, and said it's a very hard rule to catch on to. Reminds me of 'ett' and 'en' words in Swedish, again, not easy. If you have an iPod, try downloading Dutch podcasts. They are usually free. Itunes also has Dutch radio you can listen to for free. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmser Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Vmser, can you speak Flemish? It's my native language. West-Flemish to be precise, with a fair bit of french influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmser Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 I always thought Dutch was a fairly easy language, and German was the hard one, though they are somewhat similar. I looked into Dutch a little, and one of the first things they mentioned was that 't' rule, and said it's a very hard rule to catch on to. Reminds me of 'ett' and 'en' words in Swedish, again, not easy. They are fairly alike in vocabulary and such, but german still uses falls whereas dutch doesn't except in some old expressions. However, when it comes to grammar german has set rules whereas dutch is full of exceptions. German seems harder if you are not used to falls. (which is they key difficulty for dutch people when learning german, to be honest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unrealevil Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Well, I picked up some Dutch when I was playing some older games. And to me, Dutch is misspelt German. XD I find German to be a little easy though. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Too Far Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I don't speak Dutch, but this will be my sixth year of learning French as a second language. After 5 continuous years, I mainly improve my skills by myself now (the school teaches it too slow). For speaking: listen to music in that language. Even if you don't understand it, get a feel of the accents, points of emphasis. Heck, I listen to Phantom of the Opera in French without understanding half, but it's helped with listening, and singing along (hmm) has definitely helped my speaking confidence. I'm not sure if it works as well with other languages, but yeah, worth a try. Phantom of the Opera, in French? Where did you get it from? I would sure like to listen to it : ~MAK The DVD, put it in French. : Or use Amazon.com and find the French cast. I always thought Dutch was a fairly easy language, and German was the hard one, though they are somewhat similar. I looked into Dutch a little, and one of the first things they mentioned was that 't' rule, and said it's a very hard rule to catch on to. Reminds me of 'ett' and 'en' words in Swedish, again, not easy. If you have an iPod, try downloading Dutch podcasts. They are usually free. Itunes also has Dutch radio you can listen to for free. ah yep the hard one try the word t'kofschip (looks like a dutch word) and take the consonant out of it and then look if the word got one of those at the end in normal vorm (stam) and then with a few exeptions you get it right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matie93 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 gl with that, im dutch and make lots of faults in the grammar. why ure learning a language that only like around 25milion people speek (belgium and holland) :?: the `t` rule is realy hard, almost everyone makes lots of faults in that. i now understand that rule pretty good :) #-o its one of the hardest languages to lern. gl :lol: veel succes daarmee, kun je al wat nederlands praten dan? sorry voor de typfouten, ik ben 13 dus.... +) :boohoo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Too Far Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 veel succes daarmee, kun je al wat nederlands praten dan? sorry voor de typfouten, ik ben 13 dus.... +) :boohoo: forgot the rules you need to transalte al your other non english langeus senteces to english as good as you can he said: good luck with it, can you speak some dutch already? sorry for typing mistakes im 13 so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikzelf100 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 de t at the end of words rule isnt the hardest one as many said here the most difficult is the difference between de or het in front of a word english people only got the and in french and german words are menly of womenly, so the get standard on of the possibilities in front of them. but in dutch there isnt a rule for that every word just got de or het infront and you got to feel when to use de or het nobody can teach you that. you can try learning it but that would just involve learning every word in the dictionary and learn if it has de or het in front of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woopidoo2 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Hehe, good luck on learning dutch =D> (Why are you learning dutch, by the way? :? :) ) Alot of europeans (mostly belgians) say that Dutch is a very harsh language. When you compare it to French, I know what they meen. :P About the 'learning French' issue, I think everyone who goes to highschool learns french in the first 3 years. After that, they can choose wether they keep the language (and learn more) or not. So every student knows a little bit french, the very basics. Personally, I have the hardest kind of German, and an easier form of French. German looks alot like Dutch, so it isnt that hard. (And yes, I choose all those languages because I am very bad at maths :-w ) [http://woopidoo2.deviantart.com][Tip.it Moderator from Dec 10, 2006 to 03 Sep, 2008] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanonator Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 According to my teachers Dutch is one of the more difficult languages. My suggestion would either be; -Take a cursus -Come to my place : I think its gonna take you awhile if your gonna give a try to selfstudy. Do you have any progress for now? If you have the basics, its just practice after that, I have a scandinavian friend who lived for over a year in Belgium now, and he still doesn't have perfect Dutch. I wish you the best of luck to learn my beautifull language =D> . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxdout4life Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 iam dutch, lets learn you some basic words: i-ik(say ick) cheese-kaas(say... ah leave this follow a cursus or something iam bad in this lolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hephaistos50 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 First of all, I would like to wish you good luck! The road might be long and tough, but I'm sure you'll get there eventually. Like others said before me, it's best to focus on it 24/7, try to watch the DVDs you have that include Dutch subtitles ( I doubt any will have Dutch subtitles , but you could always give it a try :) ) or listen to Dutch radio. Most Dutch radio stations have a portal on their website(the sites are completely dutch though...). Most songs are English, but some are Dutch and all people who broadcast the shows obviously speak Dutch. links to some dutch radio stations(don't click them if you don't trust me :wink:, but probably all Dutch people can confirm that they are perfectly safe): http://radio538.nl/538/media/player/index.jsp?cat=radio&via=hp http://specials.skyradio.nl/sky_radio_player/player.html http://www.3fm.nl/page/3fm_smallliveplayer/breedband A site that offers Dutch documentaries and online television is http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl They have a great documentary about WoW, how Chinese farmers come the city and make their money by training accounts for people in Europe and the U.S. http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=3651206&md5=cca87cfa01123bb957e6b0700e636d27 Most of my knowledge of the English language comes from cartoons( :lol: ) and documentaries that I've watched when I was younger (I'm 14 now). Irregular verbs and such will probably be the hardest to understand and also good luck with those nasty " -t" words where everyone here is talking about. Isn't there anyone in your family who still speaks a little bit of Dutch? If so maybe they can help you a bit. Finally I would like to tell you that some Dutch words tend to charge every couple of years :? (who makes up those things?!) and even natives make a lot of mistakes. If you have any questions, feel free to PM here or ingame, but due to the time difference I'll probably be offline all time when you are on :|. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunkthemonk Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I just realized that the Dutch Angels are gone.When did this happen? Did it even make a return once these new boards opened up? My moms half Dutch yet she doesn't speak any. This topic has [bleep]ed my interest. :D The problem with the gene pool is that there's no lifeguard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Too Far Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 First of all, I would like to wish you good luck! The road might be long and tough, but I'm sure you'll get there eventually. Like others said before me, it's best to focus on it 24/7, try to watch the DVDs you have that include Dutch subtitles ( I doubt any will have Dutch subtitles , but you could always give it a try :) ) or listen to Dutch radio. Most Dutch radio stations have a portal on their website(the sites are completely dutch though...). Most songs are English, but some are Dutch and all people who broadcast the shows obviously speak Dutch. links to some dutch radio stations(don't click them if you don't trust me :wink:, but probably all Dutch people can confirm that they are perfectly safe): http://radio538.nl/538/media/player/index.jsp?cat=radio&via=hp http://specials.skyradio.nl/sky_radio_player/player.html http://www.3fm.nl/page/3fm_smallliveplayer/breedband A site that offers Dutch documentaries and online television is http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl They have a great documentary about WoW, how Chinese farmers come the city and make their money by training accounts for people in Europe and the U.S. http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=3651206&md5=cca87cfa01123bb957e6b0700e636d27 Most of my knowledge of the English language comes from cartoons( :lol: ) and documentaries that I've watched when I was younger (I'm 14 now). Irregular verbs and such will probably be the hardest to understand and also good luck with those nasty " -t" words where everyone here is talking about. Isn't there anyone in your family who still speaks a little bit of Dutch? If so maybe they can help you a bit. Finally I would like to tell you that some Dutch words tend to charge every couple of years :? (who makes up those things?!) and even natives make a lot of mistakes. If you have any questions, feel free to PM here or ingame, but due to the time difference I'll probably be offline all time when you are on :|. yep al those links are perfectly safe 3 very wel know radio stations in holland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necromagus Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 It's still there, with the other private boards. My Tip.It Times Articles (10 and counting) || The Varrock Library Author Index projectDo you dare to dream? - Part 19 added. || The Hospital (WIP) - New story!Necromagus looks like a viking ... with glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oy_the_Great Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Vmser, can you speak Flemish? :-s Flemish isn't a language. The Flemish are the people living in Flanders, the northern part of Belgium, where 60% of Belgium's inhabitants live and they all speak Dutch. But of course we all have our dialects. The language changes slightly every +-10 miles, varying from uncomprehensible west-flemish (eh Vmser? :)) to Antwerpian, which is what I speak, to something that sounds more like German than Dutch. Bill Hicks[/url]":dhj2kan9]Since the one thing we can say about fundamental matter is, that it is vibrating. And since all vibrations are theoretically sound, then it is not unreasonable to suggest that the universe is music and should be perceived as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmser Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Vmser, can you speak Flemish? :-s Flemish isn't a language. The Flemish are the people living in Flanders, the northern part of Belgium, where 60% of Belgium's inhabitants live and they all speak Dutch. But of course we all have our dialects. The language changes slightly every +-10 miles, varying from uncomprehensible west-flemish (eh Vmser? :)) to Antwerpian, which is what I speak, to something that sounds more like German than Dutch. Flemish is roughly a group of dutch dialects I guess. It's easy enough to tell apart the dutch from the flemish by the way they speak. Hence Flemish being labelled as a language. It's just that my dialect has like the least similarities to what would be called 'brabants', which was originally THE reference for the use of Dutch in Flanders. But you cannot force a language upon someone... It's almost similar to 'Fries' in holland: It's no official language that gets taught in schools across the country, but it is actually spoken... In a fair few varieties. That's what happens if you put a small country between Dutch, french AND german speaking countries... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Rdam Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Ooh goodluck with that, Dutch is quite hard to learn as a second language. I'm dutch myself O:) Credits to Skully Sc for the signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Rdam Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Sorry double post :? :x Credits to Skully Sc for the signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celt23 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 The only Dutch I know is for communicating to Dutch players in RS, "Ik spreekt nee nederlands!" ("I speak no Dutch") I recommend Rosetta Stone all the way for language learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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