Zygimantas

:thumbup: Overall appearance, really. You can't just take one feature and say "anyone with this will be good-looking". Agreed. I rather have a girl with a smaller butt but other great physical features than a girl who would be considered as having a great butt by then has an unattractive face.

I am beginning to understand what your view is. So do you think that Muslims (especially in the middle-east, where the foundations of extremists groups are) as a group of people with similar religious views, should make war against extremists Muslim groups?

I agree. Americans say that the United States is the best country in the world because everyone has freedom and equal rights regardless of religion or race. Yet some are going against their very own amendment and what they think makes the country so great. I hope this type of hypocritical thinking does not spread to the US government.

[hide] I wasn't saying I dont care, I was saying that I did not understand your writing. I didnt know what I was supposedly caring or not caring about How is athiesm a religion? Actually by definition it is a lack of religion. I do not believe in anything. I observe facts and make logical deductions about the nature of reality. My views about the world are not fixed and I hold no "beliefs" or "faiths". Right now, I have concluded that evolution was the process that brought humans into existance, but if new evidence emerged then my views would change. Religion is a belief in one thing, a belief based on faith and not on evidence. It is irrational, and illogical. Atheism is not a religion, it is not a belief, and it is not a faith in anything. So tell me, what is your 'logical deduction' of how the universe came to be? We don't know. The funny thing is, oh high and mighty one, neither do you. So cool beans, we're on the same field. "Goddidit" doesn't help and only leads to more questions. However, there is some speculation that there are multiple universes, and when two collide, a new one is created or something like that. This is of course speculation, though. [/hide]Of course even if that was true, the question would eventually come to "So how did universes form before there were any?" Our brains are used to thinking that every effect has a cause. But with every cause comes a cause of the cause. So it would be logical to think that there is no origin to how everything came to be, instead existence of our universe (or universes if you would like to believe that) was caused by an infinite amount of different causes that led to effects that led to different causes. Of course when we think of this our mind naturally says " Well then, what caused the infinite causes", but we know that an infinite amount does not have a beginning or end. Basically, this whole thing about origins is just mind boggling.

Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson Angry protesters descend on mosque 'Burn Quran Day' an outrage to Muslims *Sigh* Time to make a burn a bible day, and I will justify it by saying that Christians are a threat to the future of the United States and its freedoms. Seriously, do people just want to cause conflicts now a days? Is life really that boring that people have to intrude into other people's lives and beliefs? Pathetic. [/hide] It's not even the burning event that's bad; I have no real problem with people burning the Qur'an or the Bible or w/e; that's their right and their right to speech. It's the context that you need to look for, and clearly this context is racially obscene and could lead to violence; in fact, I think Pastor Jones is looking for violence. Exactly. Anyone who knows the basics of history can tell you that actions like these lead to (often violent) conflicts.

At your age, yeah...it really is. If you were say...20-25 AT LEAST, that wouldn't change things. But at your age, it's a terrible idea. Well, I was assuming he was at least 20. How old are you rpg?

Fire at Tenn. Mosque Building Site Ruled Arson Angry protesters descend on mosque 'Burn Quran Day' an outrage to Muslims *Sigh* Time to make a burn a bible day, and I will justify it by saying that Christians are a threat to the future of the United States and its freedoms. Seriously, do people just want to cause conflicts now a days? Is life really that boring that people have to intrude into other people's lives and beliefs? Pathetic.

I agree, you don't see many moslims here in the US.

Exactly. For instance: I believe that there is a flying magic teapot orbiting saturn. Since this teapot is magical, it makes itself so tiny that it cannot be seen by any telescope or satelite. I havent seen any sources to deny this, so I guess I must be right. No, your not right, but you could be. Your not wrong either, but you could be. And? The fact that I could be correct gives me the right to make random guesses and hold on to those beliefs? Not sure what youre getting at. Pretty much.

Exactly. For instance: I believe that there is a flying magic teapot orbiting saturn. Since this teapot is magical, it makes itself so tiny that it cannot be seen by any telescope or satelite. I havent seen any sources to deny this, so I guess I must be right. No, your not right, but you could be. Your not wrong either, but you could be.

I would choose neither breasts or butts. Its the legs that seem to turn me on the most.

If you are at least somewhat good with kids, go for it. She will respect you more for not alienating her because of her child. This can also help you learn more about her then you would if she didn't have a kid by what she expects from you. If she wants you to constantly baby-sit then drop it, but if she understands that as it is not your kid and that she should not make you treat it as one then you have found a good woman. :thumbsup:

A Christian could say that the one thing the child believes in is the one and only truth, so believing in anything else is not needed. This statement does not seem very logical to me and probably to you as well, but it may seem logical to others. Yes, I am talking about morality. There is no such thing as a definite "right" or "wrong" when it comes to morals, they are opinion oriented. Do you believe that people have the right to tell their children that since they are Republicans that the children must be Republicans? Do you think that people who dropped out of high school should force their kids to drop out? Do you think vegetarian parents should force their children to be vegetarians? Should football players force their children to be football players? I don't think they should do this, but they have the right to do so until the child can think for themselves. But when children have reached a certain age (could be anywhere from 12-15 on average) when they can logically form their own opinions, then they have the right to do so and disagree with what their parents tell them if it seems illogical. Independence in one's beliefs, thoughts, morals and virtues should be had by everyone after they are old enough to understand what the hell is going on.

Why do I have to prove it scientifically when other religions are exempt from this? I think you missed my point. You should be able to believe in your religion without any proof and suffer no consequences for your choice, but when you begin to harm others with it then you lose that freedom. I didn't miss your point. Any type of religion harms people. Millions of babies are being born into households and being indoctrinated with irrational beliefs about the world. Female babies in the middle east are being harmed with very painful "female circumcision" operations. Also, I would consider it harmful to the intellectual thought process to teach children that it is okay to blindly hold on to beliefs that have no evidence. Maybe it isn't killing them and resulting in their eaten corpses, but I truly feel sorry for kids who are being encouraged to reject the teachings of biology. I don't see why it is harmless to encourage stubornness in people. I dislike it when religion causes harm with no logical reason other then religion for doing so, I am against those female circumcisions. I knew that this question about my "policy" regarding indirect harm will eventually come into play. The things you listed are why I hope that eventually people would turn away from religion, and we actually are, the percentage of atheists in the world now has certainly increased over what it was 100 years ago. Hopefully as time goes on more people can learn about the scientific views regarding life and existence, and as science continues to develop it should eventually overcome the religions that are not developing. That being said, we can't "force" anything. We don't need any wars to be fought over theist and atheist views in the future and we certainly don't want theists to think about atheists in the same way that a lot of atheists think about theists which is, " they are ignorant and are trying to convert us". Maybe more theists would change their mind about religion if more atheists showed that they are open-minded and respect other opinions. This in turn would make theists appear to be much less "stubborn". I can see a Christian having the exact views you have but just flipped. He would argue that atheists brainwash their children into science and encourage them to reject god. In the end religious views become nothing more then opinions. Even if it seems to be irrational, irrationality is relative to the person. We can not do anything about theists raising theists, I believe that they have the right. With the goal being to avoid unnecessary conflicts, theists can only hope for atheists to change and atheists can only hope for theists to change.

Why do I have to prove it scientifically when other religions are exempt from this? I think you missed my point. You should be able to believe in your religion without any proof and suffer no consequences for your choice, but when you begin to harm others with it then you lose that freedom.

But my religion says that when I eat the babies, I am saving their soul and delivering them into the highest ring of heaven. So how am I hurting them? Because I don't care about what happens in a proposed afterlife. My policy refers strictly to the world, universe and the dimension that we are in now. By eating them you are hurting them here. What happens to them after you do that is insignificant unless you can prove it scientifically. My religious belief is that the babies feel pleasure instead of pain during the sacrifical ceremonies. However I should warn you, it does look like they are in pain. But I have a 5000 year old book that states otherwise. Insignificant unless you can prove it scientifically.

But my religion says that when I eat the babies, I am saving their soul and delivering them into the highest ring of heaven. So how am I hurting them? Because I don't care about what happens in a proposed afterlife. My policy refers strictly to the world, universe and the dimension that we are in now. By eating them you are hurting them here. What happens to them after you do that is insignificant unless you can prove it scientifically.

I think that taking away freedom of religion would be wrong. I don't want to take away religions, I think people should believe in what they want to believe. I will debate about religion with religious people if they want to, but usually it never leads to anything, I don't want to force people into non-believing. But, I do hope that eventually the world would become more atheistic. I want this to occur naturally over many years as we keep learning more about the world around us and teach it to others. I don't have problems with religious people, but I do have problems with religious/or non religious people who think their views are superior to others. So you wouldn't have a problem with me believing in a god that tells me to blow up buildings and kill babies and eat them? Cause thats my religion, you better respect it! My policy: Believe in whatever you want to believe in and do whatever you want to do with your life but within the boundaries of not hurting other people.

I think that taking away freedom of religion would be wrong. I don't want to take away religions, I think people should believe in what they want to believe. I will debate about religion with religious people if they want to, but usually it never leads to anything, I don't want to force people into non-believing. But, I do hope that eventually the world would become more atheistic. I want this to occur naturally over many years as we keep learning more about the world around us and teach it to others. I don't have problems with religious people, but I do have problems with religious/or non religious people who think their views are superior to others. oh I get it. You want religion gone. Just like I said, but not tomorrow, next week. I want the world to be what the world wants to be. I'm Christian, and so I believe the world is going to be ultimately ending up as non Christian. Well of course I would want it gone, or as Kirby said I would wish that all people would have the same beliefs. Even if you believe that the world will eventually become non-christian, you probably want the world to be more Christian and less Atheist. Nothing wrong with that, just because you want something to happen does not mean that you are going to force it on people. I'm not going to walk around trying to force people into atheism.

I think that taking away freedom of religion would be wrong. I don't want to take away religions, I think people should believe in what they want to believe. I will debate about religion with religious people if they want to, but usually it never leads to anything, I don't want to force people into non-believing. But, I do hope that eventually the world would become more atheistic. I want this to occur naturally over many years as we keep learning more about the world around us and teach it to others. I don't have problems with religious people, but I do have problems with religious/or non religious people who think their views are superior to others.

o.... In other words, there seem to be more elitist Christians showing hate towards other religions and wanting to take away rights in the US. They aren't letting people believe what they want to believe.

I hope your having one of your I -don't-care-what-I'm-writing-about sarcastic moments saru. Oh. Now this is a coincidence. I thought that was what your first post was. Ok then, I never called America atheistic.

I hope your having one of your I -don't-care-what-I'm-writing-about sarcastic moments saru.

Maybe its time to expand your expertise into long term relationships?

Then take "In God we trust" off all of our currency. I wouldn't want to misrepresent anybody. I would love to think that this would be possible in the future. But it would be impossible to do in this country without 1/3 of the people complaining.