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a table scene with a freaking bucket? Come on dude. Why kill any respect we had for you? Just a week ago you were drawing the easter bunny like this: Now your telling us you put in optional buckets for your photo-realistic dinner scenes?

Well, I want to believe you. But why on earth would you paint a bucket on the lower left corner!!!!! I zoomed way in and there was definitely a bucket. And what is that blue towel? The color of an old geezers blue jeans? And further, what is that behind in the upper right? Come on man, that is not a painting. there and a bucket for no reason.

Great work folks! And Terly, are you new here? Don't recognize you. Glad you are posting with us!

Fun sketch, fan brush in Painter. No reference, probably plenty of flaws, but a fun style to work in. For those who have long memories you might remember this piece from way back.

The tutorial idea was always a pain, since every free image host dies eventually. Back in the old days we went through some nice ones, but they all eventually died out, leaving us with useless tutorials. Not to mention, most of the tutorials themselves were lost in the scape death. So they would have to be done from scratch. Honestly I would say about 6 of the tutorials were actually helpful anyway, most dealing with masks, extracting etc. Basic operations kind of stuff. The rest were fun, but often detailed rather simple effects. I think pup might still have his excellent ps masking tutorial. That one might be worth resurrecting. But I already asked him to do it twice for scape...hate to ask again. I seriously doubt this sticky will be back. It is too large. If it were to be brought back it would be good to post the individual sections as seperate threads, then link to them. That would make it easier to find the info you actually wanted. Just for those who like history I will post the unedited version. I don't know which exact time period this was from. I stopped editing it on he word processor after a while. The latest version before scape died listed the tutorials first as that was what most folks wanted. ------------------- COOL PEEP"S ULTIMATE GUIDE TO SIG MAKING Many of you wonder how to make sigs and what program's to use. With the help of Gugge, Greatsilverwyrm, Alex, Tttia, and Silent009 we came up with this guide I hope it helps.ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâcool peep CONTENTS 1. Types of images used on Tip.IT 2. Web Hosts 3. File Formats you can use 4. Signature size information 5. Taking pictures of Runescape characters, items, etc. 6. Legal use of images or backgrounds !!!!!!!Must Read!!!!!!!!! 7. Programs used for making sigs 8. Proper conduct in discussing other people's work 9. Design tips 10 Tutorials 11. Credits Appendix 1: Image collection, see second post To start off, we have gugge, our friendly board mod, explaining what a signature is, what an avatar is, and what kind of pictures you can post on the board. (Note: on the media board, and other places, signature commonly refers to the IMAGE in your signature, but properly speaking, the signature is the text and any image.) 1. TYPES OF IMAGES USED ON TIP.IT 2. WEB HOSTS Because of storage and bandwidth limitations tip.it boards cannot store your signature. You need a third party to do this. (As noted above, they do store avatars). The following is a list of image hosts that you can upload your image to. Each web host works a little differently, the simplest, such as speedis, simply have you browse your hard drive, upload the picture, and they give you a url link for your picture. You then need to put your link in the signature section of your profile as mentioned above. 3. FILE FORMATS YOU CAN USE. 4. SIGNATURE SIZE INFORMATION A note from our sponsors about file size and how to reduce it :) Read this or be prepared to have your sig deleted. 5. TAKING PICTURES OF RUNESCAPE CHARACTERS, ITEMS, ETC. This allows you to put pictures of your character etc. on your signature or other image. When you are doing screenshots it is a good idea to position yourself indoors, as this zooms the camera view up-close. Also make sure, if possible, that you are in an area where there is only one color. For instance, stone floors are grey, better than a wood floor which is 5 shades of brown. Bank floors are one shade of burgandy, etc. This allows you to more easily cut out the background. See tutorial here for cutting out a background. http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=194539 6. LEGAL USE OF IMAGES OR BACKGROUNDS-- !!!!!!!!!MUST READ!!!!!! No stolen graphics on the scapeboards please!! There may be some images that are legally usable, under certain circumstances. It is a good idea to note that you are using Legal Use images in accordance with terms, in your signature. Note that even if you modify someone's image, or even mimic it this may still be a a breach of copyright. For those who still want to use 3rd party images, here are some options for you NOTE ABOUT JAGEX IMAGES: Initially they said they didn't not allow usage of their images in sigs. But recent inquiries have given permission! 7. PROGRAMS USED FOR MAKING SIGS Note: as you look at the programs above you will recognize that they are costly. This does not give you the right to use pirated copies. If you cannot afford the more expensive programs, then go for a cheaper one or try a free one. Using pirated copies is illegal and unethical. Do not post information that could be used to obtain illegal copies. 8. PROPER CONDUCT IN DISCUSSING OTHER PEOPLE"S WORK 9. DESIGN TIPS 10. TUTORIALS. This section will be added to often. It will focus on tutorials specifically aimed toward runescape images and sigs. Basic functions Posting a picture on the media board. Thanks to strengthOnly. http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=307784 taking out the backgound on a rs character. Corel photopaint, but could be used with others. Thanks to tttia http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=194539 taking out a background. Another method, for ps7. Thanks to ameoba3000 http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=200402 yet another method of taking out complex backgrounds...only works for programs that let you work in one color channel at a time. Thanks to tttia http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=207269 All about selections and masks in ps7. Thanks to IDPUP http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=259610 making animated sigs. Thanks to Madcatmkii http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.p ... 81#1259681 texturing a sig bg in psp7. Thanks to unfaith http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.p ... 82#1140282 Making a transparent image in ps7. Thanks to GREATSILVER WYRM http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=255997 Making a transparent image in psp7. Thanks to Royal Master http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=259551 an alternate transparent image tut in psp7, with one other technique. Thanks to BLaZiN-aZn http://www.burningfist.com/guests/blaze ... sp7tut.htm Advanced tranparent image techniques and tips for anti-aliasing. Thanks to tttia http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=256196 Backgrounds, effects and specific items using MSPaint to make quality "fake" pics. Thanks to magna gb http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=171955 making a sword in ps7 and mspaint. Thanks to dromaruk http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=199392 Supplement tutorial on making a sword...using embossing. Thanks to Ameoba3000 http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=200386 making a bg using airbrush, colorizing and lightening tools. Written for psp7. Thanks to unfaith http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.p ... 60#1145060 Tutorial for ps using the cloud 3d render filter, the lens flare filter, radial blur and doge effects to create a futuristic background. Thanks to ameoba3000 http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=200277 background tutorial using the gradient tool, ps7, thanks to DromarUK http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=200371 making flames in ps7. Thanks to greenjello98 http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.p ... 55#1165955 Flames in psp. Thanks to Shayne250 http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=259749 metal with bolts in ps7. Thanks to Keiphus http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=200717 making a dragon battle in paint. thanks to witty-fool http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=205173 Glass orb tutorial for PaintShop Pro. Thanks to silent009 http://scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=173720 making a pixelated background in ps7. Thanks to Aavikkomyyra http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.p ... t=tutorial creating flaming text in ps7. Thanks to Keiphus. http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.p ... 11#1501311 Shape based background in psp7. Thanks to Royal Master http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.p ... 99#1709799 burnt map bg in ps6. Thanks to silvercrap http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=293058 Line based paint bg. Thanks to The_fist http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.p ... 25#1710725 An abstract cut-out eye in psp. Thanks to killed23guys http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=301988 3d rendering a 3d sword in 3ds max 5. Thanks to G-Strider http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.p ... 69#1463469 Making a 3d background in bryce/photoshop. Thanks to Keiphus http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=257637 3D ring abstract in Bryce. Thanks to Lord Chicken http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0 Making a bg in psp8 with the smudge tool. Thanks to 7486(craig) http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.php?t=305894 Looking for other tutorials. Pm tutorials to tttia. Vector Work using a vector illustration program to make an axe. Thanks to tttia http://www.scapeboard.com/2/viewtopic.p ... t=tutorial 11. CREDITS Cool peep ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ original writer Tttia ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ helped out a lot thanks Greatsilverwyrm ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ not really sure what u did but thanks anyways Silent009 ÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâ made a part none of us thought of a big thanks to him Gugge- wat can I say? She's good ole' gugge thanks a lot for all your support and help Alex- gave us a lot of suggestions thanks Tip.it staff- thanks for making this guide possible Thanks to other listed contributers Thanks to everybody that uses tip.it for keeping us alive and motivated I hope this guide was informitve and if you have any comments or suggestions please pm cool peep, tttia, gugge, greatsilverwyrm, alex, or silent009. Thanks a lot, The Ultimate Sig Guide Team

A. there is a more limited sticky at the top. But most don't really take the time to read those. They combined several old stickies into one more helpful sticky. The only problem is that most won't look if they don't see their immediate question. Just as they won't search.... B. Nadril, this is a portion of the ultimate Sig guide, which was a sticky on scape for over a year. I compiled and expanded it after the initial concept by cool peep. The programs section was written by me, I simply updated it. A short history of Media stickies: In the old old days when gugge was moderator here they had three or so stickies. One on how to post images, one on some general behavior notes etc. For a while they had one on not using the term "professional" to describe your sigs, and in general not to flame people. And of course, always the testing one. Eventually these were narrowed down to more concise versions, combining,etc. THe Ultimate sig guide was up for some time, handling that job. It covered program info, file types, legal use of images, hosting sites, some artistic guidance, and tutorials, and at one time also included a link to an rs image bank. If anyone is REALLY interested I could post the whole text of it. It was supplanted about 5 months or so before scape died by a smaller sticky that was less cumbersome. It was largely by Wyrm, though it had contributions from a few DAG members. It covered the basics of how to post images as well, and linked to other helpful posts including the sig guide. Now we have Peter's image FAQ which links to several other helpful items.

Programs: A. Photoshop: This is the industry leader, and with good reason. It has the best layer support in the industry, and special effect filters or add in programs for just about any need. It has many ways to select items, and supports all of your major file types. It is not for beginners though ,and has few hand-holding wizards. Plan on reading a lot of tutorials if you are new this type of a program. Luckily there are a lot of tutorials out there for it, probably more than any of the other such programs in this article. Like the other products in the pro segment of the market Photoshop is now incorporating web tools, vector drawing capabilities, art tools, and a whole host of other features. If you can get this program it is worth it, but the price is the limiting factor, with the program costing from $500-$600, or about $300 with your student discount. Even older versions retain their value to an amazing degree. Another option that gives you many of the features but less cost is Photoshop elements 2.0. This gives you most of the main stream tools, more wizards and strips out the power user stuff. It sells for $70-$100 dollars. B. Corel Photopaint; This is perhaps the only program that has even close to the sheer number of features of Photoshop, which it matches fairly evenly. It does not have near the number of users. It has a lot of power, and a fairly good interface. Like Photoshop it has layer support (called objects in this program), supports all major file types, has a whole bunch of filters and effects and can use the vast majority of Photoshop filters, though not always with as much control as with Adobe. It includes all usual ways of selecting things. It's layer support is not as great as photoshop, you cannot lock or nest into layers, but most likely you will never use all of its features either. This program also has a steep learning curve, but has fewer tutorials on line, etc. The cost varies. It can be bought on its own or more commonly as a package with Corel Draw (A vector image editor, see below). It is not cheap either way, the full Corel Draw package sells for around $300. Corel has just now come out with a program, Coreldraw essentials, which is there version of photoshop elements. It is probably a poor deal as it is based on the previous version of Corel technology and you can still pick up earlier versions of Corel Draw for fairly cheap. I got version 9, the whole package for $50. If you want power but less price, and less help, this is a good option. C. Jasc Paint Shop Pro: This very popular program is technically in a class just below Photoshop and Corel Photopaint, but in reality many find that it does just about all that is needed, and at a very reasonable price. You can also find a good number of tutorials online to make learning this program easier. the new version does have a fair number of interface changes though, so some of the older tutorials might be confusing. It has long been a shareware program which means you can try it out before buying. It too supports your standard file types, selection tools, layers, special effect filters (it supports most photoshop plug-ins) etc. It retails at about $99 and you can at times find it a bit cheaper. A tremendous value. It was just recently bought out by Corel. Who knows where they will go with it. F. You can get many consumer level programs that will edit photos...but they are generally not worth it. However, there some free options out there that might perform ably enough. 1. The GIMP is an open-source port from Linux. It is fairly stable, has a fair array of features. Photoshop it is not. But it is probably the best free option out there. http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html You will need to download two files. First you need the Gtk environment. This is a file that enables the other to run. Then you need the Gimp itself. 2.Satori Photo xl is a rather helpful freeware program that allows for layers, a fair array of selection tools, Photoshop Plug-in support, and some of your most popular file formats, with the glaring exception of GIF's. This may have to do with some licensing issues. You can download it at http://www.tucows.com in shareware version. Then you get the cd key on the satori site to convert it to freeware. I am not sure why they bother with this cumbersome process (probably to sign you up on their email list). 3. Gifworks.com is a web app (you work within the web page) that allows basic editing and optimization of .gif images...pretty cool. 4. MSPaint....comes free on windows...While it is limited in nearly every way this program is still a mainstay because it is on every system. It does support jpeg and gif but strangely you have to OPEN one of those types of files before it will offer the option of saving images in these formats in certain versions....strange. Its biggest flaw is lack of layer support or filters. However, it is a great program for pixel work etc. which need no filters, transparency, etc. If you are into Pixel work you might also try out Graphicsgale. Other programs or resources that aid sig production 1. Other drawing tools. There are several other types of drawing tools besides paint programs. A. Artistic Media Tools. These programs try to mimic traditional art media (oil paints, water colors, etc.) The most well known of these is Painter, originally by fractal, metacreations, now Corel. It is a great program for creative work. You can simulate water paints, oils, air brushing, whatever you need. If you want to incorporate original art into your sigs, this program is great, but again expensive. .It also uses Photoshop filters, etc. It retails around $300-$400. If you want a much cheaper version, Ebay often caries Painter classic, built on version 5, for about ten bucks or so. However, the classic version does not support layers...almost enough to kill it right there. I bought version 7 for 30 bucks on ebay though. Well worth the money! Another program of this type is Deep Paint by Right Hemisphere ($249), which is superior in one sense, in that it allows 3d effects by adding a bump or texture and shine or luminance to every stroke. This creates depth. Deep paint is actually designed to augment painter type programs, but does stand-alone work as well. There are some other free programs of this sort. Open Canvas is free in the first version of the program. Simply do a web search. A program called "project dog waffle" (I kid you not) also does recreation of traditional media, but does not support layers. B. Vector Drawing tools (Illustration Tools). Vector files are much more scalable, and not made up of pixels (as are RASERIZED images.) Vector graphics are used for illustration. They have perhaps less detail, but are smoother, scalable, clean looking. They are especially good for layout, print media, etc. A common vector format is wmf.....Windows Metafile. The most used is probably .EPS. Cartoonists etc. might use vector tools. Adobe Illustrator is probably the king here for some time, though Corel Draw was first to market perhaps and has a big following as well. Macromedia makes Freehand, another vector package. I find vector packages great for doing the actual layout of the sig because everything can be moved, text laid out perfectly, anything is scalable...it is just easier. Finished products can be converted back to raster images. A big application lately for vector work is FLASH intros etc. Flash is also by macromedia. 2. 3d programs. Quite a few sig makers use 3d modeling programs to enhance their sigs. You create models, then place textures on the models, rotate them to the desired angel and take still shots of them. This has two advantages over traditional 2d media. First it uses a good deal of transparency effects that produce some of the best images. Secondly it allows for much greater perspective. Some make backgrounds in 3d programs, then ported to another program for finishing. Few do models of actual items, as it is very time consuming, but those that do produce great results, and we are starting to see more around here! Most just do transparent blobs or streaks etc...but hey it is a cool effect nonetheless. As for the software, 3dstudio max by Discreet, Maya, Lightwave, Cinema 4d, Z brush, etc. are players here. Also try gmax, a free game module creator that does much of what people use 3ds max for, at least for sigs. One note though, there is no way to export still images, so you have to get creative here and port it to another program for that or just do a screen capture and crop. To say that these programs are expensive is an understatement. Plan to pay THOUSANDS of dollars for the big boys. (With a student discount Lightwave almost gets affordable...a relative term meaning somewhere around $300), Bryce, Poser, etc. Blender, anim8or and openfx are all free 3dstudios. They each have their pros and cons. Blender is a very capable program, with a fairly clunky interface, (though openfx is worse), but no undo! I can't stand not having an undo....but it is capable of professional results. Openfx was developed as a commercial program and has better support for 3ds models. Anim8tor is just fun, and maybe a bit easier. Do a web search to find their sites. For painting 3d textures, Painter 3d is good, but out of print. Check ebay. Maxon's Body Paint or Deep Paint with Texture Weapons will also do the trick. Remember, again expensive, but you knew that didn't you? 3. Animation tools: Most of your paint programs will have some animation tools. Still there are programs that you can buy especially for this. One free tool that you might consider is by Jans freeware and is called Movies 12. http://www.jansfreeware.com/jfgraphics.htm This program allows you to make animations from jpegs, gifs or avi movies. It also adds some special transitions. 4. Web tools: If you want to optimize your web images, Photoshop and others have some tools, but perhaps the best in this area is Macromedia Dreamweaver Suite. It is expensive, so don't get it just for sigs, but if you do a lot of web creation is worth it...course then you would probably already know about it 5. Fonts.There are tons of fonts out there, just type free fonts into your web browser...but be warned most sites make you wade through tons of ads to look at the actual fonts. For the really brave you can find obscure programs that allow you to make your own true type fonts, or you can use Corel Draw, and perhaps other vector tools to make them too. I found the process for making true type fonts a bit cumbersome in Corel Draw, but it is possible. General Considerations: The primary tool for any sig maker is your "paint" program. This is a program for creating or editing images in two dimensional space (think, not 3d). Other programs can add creative elements to your work, but your paint program makes it all come together. The following is a list of suggested requirements for a solid paint package: 1. Layer Support: You are simply cheating yourself if your program does not support layers. The concept works like this: when you are working on your image, you can start a new layer that goes on top of, or below, your current work which adds to it, but does not change the original layer. In other words, if you don't like what you do in the new layer, just delete it and your original work is still there. Not only that but you can add different kinds of layers...ones that only change the color, or only darken, or ones that dissolve. You can also adjust the TRANSPARENCY of the layers, allowing you to see through objects, to the degree that you set the level of transparency. Layers are a must and set apart the really good programs. 2. File Format support: There are different "types" of images that you can display on the scape board. JPEG, GIF, PNG (see above). Not all paint programs support all formats. (Need I say it, MSPAINT doesn't). You really want a program that supports JPEG and GIF at the least. 3. Advanced selection and masking tools: Selection tools allow you to work on just one part of your image at once. Most packages allow you to select using common shapes....circles, ellipses, rectangles, etc. They also provide for selecting by a color. The better ones also allow you to select through a variety of other means such as drawing an outline (lasso tool), painting on a mask, etc. This becomes important when you want to make one portion of your drawing larger or change the color, or erase a particular section without altering the whole image. 4. Special Effect Filters: Another area where better programs stand out is the area of special effects. These are pre-made effects that you can apply to your images, backgrounds, etc. In general, overuse of these makes a WORSE IMAGE. But judicious use of them can make quick work of some othewise tedious tasks. Keep in mind that those who use these programs often will recognize the more common filters, and will not be impressed by putting say 3 lens flares in your design....so use these sparingly. There are numerous paint type programs on the market. Here is a listing of some of the features of some of the players. Note: as you look at the programs above you will recognize that they are costly. This does not give you the right to use pirated copies. If you cannot afford the more expensive programs, then go for a cheaper one or try a free one. Using pirated copies is illegal and unethical. Do not post information that could be used to obtain illegal copies.

Ignore the letters folks. He is famous for it on the clan boards. Best to just comment on the art :) It looks like you did fine with the genre, but the lettering is not readable. Glad you came by the media board

True, but it is relatively rare for a plant to be in total isolation like that, framed against the sky. Maybe from a severe angle from below, but then you would expect some foreshortening.

Last I checked Keiphus is religious himself. So I don't think you are shoving it down his throat.

Even in my secular philosophy class at a state funded college religion entered into a discussion of aesthetics. It is hard to keep God out of it. If Merry believes that God has something to do with art, then since this is a debating thread, feel free to debate :)

Fun sketch, fan brush in Painter

Not bad work there demented! I need to start using grid paper just to get my stuff right! New topic: Phobias

it does certainly make the flower jump out more. I am not convinced yet that I absolutely like it, but figured I better at least try :)

People seem to want a different color background, so here ya go :)

Your welcome! And thanks for the reminder that I should not use so much sarcasm! lol

Actually the reason for the bg was that my reference looked just like that ! Otherwise, yes, blue is nice :) Since I was simply going for a realistic potrayal I limited myself in expressing the scene in an artistic way.

The only thing I really wonder about are the highlights on the blade. Otherwise nice work. And come around more often :) What does RSC have that we don't anyway? lol. (ok, maybe firefreek, and occassionally trunks, just get them back over here).

Yes, but it was also a debate thread So while your opinion is in fact your opinion, he also said to back it up. I was just being a pain to get a point across anyway :) I do think that God is the ultimate artist, as anyone finds when they try to emulate any of His works. The detail on just the surface is impossible to capture. Within human endeavors art is an attempt to copy recognizable subject matter, which is really God's work itself. Therefore, I defined art as an attempt to portray realistic content. If you want a definition that fits both yours and Nadril's it would be: "A work meant to be displayed for the pleasure of others. " But in that case, God's work would go beyond that as it is intended more than for enjoyment. It is a display of His power: it is a basis for universal knowledge of God, a proof of His existence, and hence a basis for the judgement: Therefore I don't consider what God did art. It was beyond that. You could say then that art is man's faultering attempt to emulate God in the creative experience. Incidentally, creativity may have no boundaries, but sigs here do. Yours is 55 pixels too wide :)

Naw, the references I looked at had a stem with no foliage etc. THanks for the good comments folks :)

Latest work for the daily sketch. This came out better than I hoped! 100 percent photopaint. Just going for a realistic portrayal. I am struggling to get the smoothness on the stem, but the flower itself came out better than I hoped. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15215923/

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15215923/ Got one done! Got it to look better than I thought I would!

Knew that title would work! I really like the way this came out. Getting a traditional feel for the bg in photopaint was a bit of a problem, but think it wound up pretty well.

hm, could be fun. I may or may not motivate myself. But I will probably have to link to the song in case you are not familiar with it.

haha, oh man.....see this is why somoene states what they meant BEFORE the critics get to it. People will come up with anything! I didn't realize it was a face. Then when you said it was, I guess I can see it. So far if we take what people here have said, you have scars on your heart from your cannibal gf? lol, Anyway, good rendering on the heart. Keep working on these larger works!