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k, fair enough. so have you settled on your light source?

well Keiphus, most noobs get pretty beaten down after a short time, so it will probably just inspire them to go and see what they could become, read, and not post a lot at first. I have had 3 or so on cgtalk. concept art is easier to get stuff on.

well yes and no, but your best bet is to go to a skinning place and use one someone else made. Or get the generic one and just modify elements. That is what I did.

naw you don't. You just need a forum based on phpbb. There are a couple free ones.... dk3...but they are not all tha secure and don't have all the options. Forumer.com started offering free full featured boards from phpbb (they used to use invision). If you want an invision one try invisionfree.com I used them and they were great. phpbb has some nice default skins to use. tip uses one of them. No need to pay someone. Try to figure it out, and if you can't then pay someone. Besides...clans are targeted often now. So if someone designs your forum, it makes it easier for them later to mess with it if they felt like it. Better to make sure you are the root admin, and are in charge.

Nice thread! If I get a chance will crank one out.

So are we to read into this that you are abandoning the car? Don't do it man! don't start a piece, ask for critiques, then not carry it through! Or you will kill the WIP spirit building here. by the way, where is that finished balcony scene?

Someone mentioned an art community today that I was unaware of . I thought I would post the ones I like and why I go to them, along with their strengths and weaknesses. Please ADD TO THE LIST! These are from my perspective, someone at the low mid level of artistic skill. There are others I know of, but I don't go to them. Conceptart- Strengths--learning Weaknesses--not always friendly, SOMEWHAT stuck on traditional art http://www.conceptart.org/forums/ probably the most helpful for actual learning of techniques. They have people's sketchbooks that show their progress where people give tips. Another section is devoted to critiques, works in progress. They have a section for just figure drawing from the mind which is awesome, and a section for life drawing (er...read painting naked people from real life). They have a great thread with open canvas event files so you can watch people work. I find that they have a mid-high lvl standard for what they really will comment on. I sometimes find the comments helpful, sometimes not. You don't have to be elite to post, but they do have some standards and will move it from the "Finished Work" section if you don't meet them. ---------------------------------------------------------- Deviantart- StrengthsÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâlarge member base, hosting of images, great prints program, updates on art/tech info WeaknessesÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬ÃâNot a great way to see all the new art. http://www.deviantart.com/ They used to put more on their front page, but in one second it is all gone. If you don't bring your own audience, not much chance of getting one unless your skills are unreal. It allows all to post, which is great for those wanting a spot to show their work. But a high level of skill is required to get noticed in such a large community...and a lot of folks will work the system to get known through favorites, journal comments, etc. They have a wide range of styles, so if you want to browse by just airbrushed furry pics (antropomorphic....ie, animal people blends) then you can do it. If you only like anime, you can find it ,etc. However, the sheer volume, and diferent levels of work make it hard to find consistently good stuff without simply surfing by favorites...which then gives you the same ones all the time. Basically it is built around user pages with the forums being just a nice touch, not the focus. This leads to less interaction. I hear they have lots of brushes to download, some renders to download, some tutorials etc. but I never use these. They do have a bunch of stock images...not my first place to check, but for sheer volume and wierdness it can be handy. ---------------------------------------------------------- CGTalk- StrengthsÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬ÃâGreat forum type display of finished works, dedicated to digital. Helpful advice WekanessesÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬ÃâVERY high standards (may not be bad). Unclear when your work is rejected. http://www.cgtalk.com/ This is one of my favorites. You don't get the stuck up traditional only media folks. You get some really helpful folks in the WIP section, and the finished work gallery has the perfect blend of putting in new quality work, and moving slow enough that you can keep up. It is all basically arranged around forums, so everything is easy to browse, and the finished works page has PREVIEWS in roughly chronological order. It is easy to use and I can sift for hours through their work. GREAT stuff. However, if you do not have some decent skill, don't bother. It takes up to 2 days for your work to be approved when you post finished work. And they DO reject many. Some of mine made it, some didn't. They don't tell you either, but I have found that if you check your control panel you are automatically subscribed to submitted finished works. If the subscription disappears...you didn't make the cut. If it appears in the gallery..well, that is obvious enough huh? They also run a sharpening process on every work. Not sure what it is , but it looks NICE. Just so you know when you post that they will do this. The people here are largely friendly, but it is not for the absolute beginner. ---------------------------------------------------------- GFX forums- StrengthsÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬ÃâGreat tutorials section, high end work to look at WeaknessesÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Ãâan unbearably hard to browse site, slow moving forums, based sort of on user pages, sort of on forums. It is just confusing. http://www.gfxartist.com/ This place seemingly has a big user base...but they shoot themselves in the foot with their interface if you ask me. They have some first class artists that submit. And their tutorials section is well worth looking at. Like DA you get space to host your artwork. But trying to find the art unless it is the elite stuff is tough. This is the LEAST likely place to get noticed if you ask me. The forums are alright for WIP works, but the people tend to be rude, and it moves SLOWLY...very SLOWLY. I don't think many check there. They must check somewhere, but I haven't found it. Overall this is my least favorite for just posting work etc. They have quality standards, but I haven't messed with it enough to know how stringent. ---------------------------------------------------------- Graphic Forums- StrengthsÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬ÃâDecent showcase board. Mostly friendly, a high level skill is not necessary to get noticed. Weaknesses-not a lot of folks. Their showcase forum moves along fairly slowly but I get some views and posts. It has a mix of helpful and rude folks, but overall, pretty positive. I don't get the idea that they have a lot of folks, but not bad for a few extra opinions. Some of the people there have been very helpful. And if you post on a thread that has no posts, they tend to be quite friendly and start checking your work too. That probably works a lot of these places, but I notice it especially here. They don't have super artists so you don't need as much skill to get noticed. They are more laid back in general. http://www.graphic-forums.net/ ---------------------------------------------------------- There are a few rs ones that I post on. They are alright. Don't expect high levels of expertise, and our own media board is much more active. Runevillage is not bad, though they have tons of bank rate etc. posts there. RSC graphics is mainly sig oriented, but firefreek is there, so worth posting :) LIST and rate your favorites! And add your comments on these.

I think I will make a post on art sites with reviews, comments etc. Good to know some others.

Looking pretty smooth I like it! if it were me I would put the light right above the front right side wheel well area, coming from the top left of our view at an extrem angle...really get a nice bright highlight on the rounded part above the wheel, accross the hood, receding to the back. Then the shadows would really show the countours all down the side from top to bottom....having trouble describing what I mean... Something like this, only I am trying to be sloppy...not that I have to try much...because I don't want to shade your work, just to demonstrate, but the angle from above so you get all the nice smooth contours. Obviously in vector it will work a bit differently....but have you considered just brushing over the vector? I think it would look better... Incidentally, I have no clue what car this is, this is just my take on it, I doubt you want the side panels that recessed.

Were you front page or sub page? That is awesome man! wow, I can't believe it..someone even bought a print of the bug one yesterday. first time anyone but me bought one! haha. I use it for gifts and just my own copy. I might send a puzzle to some nephews soon :) I always put it at a way cheaper price than the norm, just hoping!

neverside? hm, dont' think I have ever heard of that one. I visit about 6 or so art sites.

First ever DA listing as favorite in a category. I couldn't figure out why I was getting comments from people I had never heard of before, days after I posted it. Thanks to all of you who commented on and favorited it before for getting it noticed! not sure how long it will stay there, but here is the link: http://digitalart.deviantart.com/paintings/landscapes/ here is the link to the original deviation: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/14723911/

yup, as I said, unfinished...not sure how much I will go with the blood stained fangs...but maybe :) Of course...I might not even bother completing it. I have to say I mainly only posted it to fulfill my plant obligations! I wanted to get something done for the daily sketch even if it was not a complete work. Afterall it is a daily SKETCH.

This is part of a piece I hope to complete at some point. I won't tell the rest of it for now, but suffice to say this is a man eating plant :) Does it look hungry? Next topic: fabric...anthing with fabric

How do you learn if you don't do tutorials, read directions, get help, play around....cut the man some slack. Good to see ya here emp :)

Yeah, markers take some planning :) Nice work Keiphus. Not sure about your other commetns, but nice work.

ARgh, redid the text, and did some more detail on the bug.....I really need to quit...always things to fix.

Nice plant there mrxman....You might be able to fix the bent aspect with ps etc.....would be a pain, but probably doable.

I updated the bug a bit...not probably as much as you would like ,but I rather like the liquidized approach. I also fixed the angle of the handle as it had some perspective proglems.

lifes a bitch and then you marry one.. << does not apply to everyone.. i love it tttia good job only the fly doesn't look right.. How would you change the fly?

This was supposed to be a simple one...wow...was I wrong. I love how it turned out though. http://www.deviantart.com/view/14790675/

This was supposed to be a simple one...wow...was I wrong. I love how it turned out though. http://www.deviantart.com/view/14790675/

Nice photo. Tough to find a way to lighten something like this up enough due to the haze.

a. it is free b. it will likely be given away in my free pre-made sig thread. c. It will require that you post a good reason you should get it d. You are required to have a name in it and i will resize/adjust it to sig proportions and re do the design a bit. e. You are not free to just rip it and do whatever you want with it..though it is the internet...not like we could stop you. But I have the larger version on the computer anyway.

er, that would be a bit odd wouldn't it? MR xman? Anyway, she is my real life wifey, not my rs wifey. Been married over 7.5 years. She has a degree in traditional art.