Depends on the people you're being classed by, and the forum. On NSL, rating is over-rated ( \ ), I've seen the judges rate tags pro that are just messy and no form, like Kamangir's early tags. And on another forum, one made by Stoneface, can't remember the url, but the classing there is really tight. You have to be PRO PROFESSIONAL, ABOVE PRO to be rated pro. Ex: Thru said I was pro, not sure if he was joking or not, but I consider myself novice on a "world-wide" scale. On tif, I would conisder myself maybe mid-inter. :ohnoes: