yeah actually i did use that tutorial you sent me, but i found it b4 you showed me it thought you might have meant a different one :roll: but i tried to keep the shading right, the light source is kind of in the center near the top, closer towards the dragon dude anyways thx for all the cc, but i can't work on it again for another week :XD: i'm on vacation and don't have access to PS or anything so blah, at least i go tthe internet :-w