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They're weak to range, but it really doesn't make much of a difference, so just stick with your highest attack bonus.

Tier 9 defender stats (With T1 being bronze,T2 iron,...,T7 Rune. and T8 either a blank spot (in theory, granite) or dragon, T9 either dragon or barrows (depending on where dragon is placed): +44.536 Stab +43.536 Slash +42.536 Crush -3 Mage -2 Range +7.625 Strength This would be roughly equivalent to a rune kite and rune scim in the shield slot, as far as defense and accuracy go. So unless Jagex decides to unbalance the game even more, don't expect a T9 defender for a long time. Also, if anyone's curious, here are the formulas I used in my calculations. Stab Bonus .00946969696961x^4-.01388888888754x^3-.5246212121285x^2+3.9511183261324x-.5357142857224 Slash Bonus .00946969696961x^4-.01388888888754x^3-.5246212121285x^2+3.9511183261324x+1.5357142857224 Crush Bonus .00946969696961x^4-.01388888888754x^3-.5246212121285x^2+3.9511183261324x+2.5357142857224 Strength Bonus (more or less linear until T10 according to my model, however there are hundreds of possible models) .00662878787879x^4-.13699494949506x^3+1.0009469696976x^2-2.022095959597x+1.1250000000007

But how is it possible that a metal fork can deflect flying tomatos better than a metal plate? I meant ranged attack, babe.

Nope.

I think it'd be pretty funny if dragon defenders ended up being ranged shields. I guess it'd also help out the whole combat triangle balance thing, but it'd be more for teh lulz.

I posted my regression model in the earlier thread for the ddef. I'll edit it in in a sec. Edit:

time spent doing that could be used doing a task and using slayer helm during it make it alot easier with d claws and cr as when i started this i wa spretty sure i would get a jad task before i hit 93 slayer so i didnt bother but now i am almost to 94 still with none i am thinking it but i would rather get a slayer task done I'm sure that its worth losing 1 or 2 tasks to get a fc and save 2k tokens to kill Ice strykes.

Or you could just like, you know, kill him off task.

I'm not as bad as some people, but I can see why people behave like that. I usually form some sort of opinion when I hear a song on the radio, and usually it's not very good. If I hear another song by the same band, without knowing the band, my opinion will likely be different than my opinion of their other song. Then when I learn that they sang the bad song, I begin to associate the 2 songs, which never leads anywhere good. I doubt that made any sense, but whatever.

And your trolling You're* OP, I'm much the same as you. I'm currently going for 200m firemaking xp with willows. It really gets on my nerves when noobs force me against my will to burn magics, even though I don't find them fun at all. I'm at my wit's end with these idiots.

I'd stick with rune, as it allows you to switch to diamond (e)s during the fight with Jad, and I'm sure that those would help you a lot more than Karil's would.

I giggle every time I see the middle one.

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I believe it is 970 exactly.

The OP wants the best way to get from 52-60 mining. That is the method I outlined earlier. If he hates dropping that much, he can bank, but he should know that it is a lot slower.

He says mining is painful in general, which says to me that he hates banking too, which is why he should powermine, because it gets it over with quicker.

:thumbdown: Seriously? Seriously? The fastest xp is granite, and anything other than that is a dramatic loss of xp. Banking iron is what, like 40k xp/hour and 250k gp/hour max? You lose a good 15k xp per hour for a nominal amount of cash. The fastest xp is concentrated gold. Anyway, I disagree with the statement that "mining for money is a waste", because it simply isn't, especially not for lower leveled players. Runite mining also has been one of the fastest money-making methods in F2p for a long time. As for P2p, there is absolutely no reason why someone should grind his way through the "most efficient methods money-wise". <_< This is a game, not a list of tasks to be completed as fast as possible. Also, I would like to see the person who could achieve this without a supply of money: Trolololol First, which is a bigger number: 55,000 or 65,000? Yes, 65k is bigger than 55k, so granite is more xp then conc gold. Second, the fastest xp is through powermining, and you can earn a lot more money in the time you save. Third, he isn't f2p. Fourth, he isn't anywhere near 85 mining yet, and by the time he is he'll probably have opened up better money making methods. Fifth, he hates mining, so he should try to get it done asap. Sixth, he wants the best way to level 60 from level 52. That is to powermine iron in piscatoris/Ardougne and use the drop pattern I illustrated earlier. Seventh, http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Money_making_guide/Miscellaneous_and_Trading/Arbitrage_%28F2P%29

250k/hour should not be a lot for anybody. Even with no stats you can easily make 400k+/hour.

:thumbdown: Seriously? Seriously? The fastest xp is granite, and anything other than that is a dramatic loss of xp. Banking iron is what, like 40k xp/hour and 250k gp/hour max? You lose a good 15k xp per hour for a nominal amount of cash.

Don't mine for money. It's not worth it, not even at rune.

I'd do iron until 70, using any group of 3 rocks, i.e. Ardougne or Piscatoris. Also, fill your inventory with junk, saving the 3 vertical places in the bottom left. You should mine 3 at a time then drop in quick succession. With practice, you should be able to drop 3x faster than usual.

Either stick with your spear or use a 2h with your ring set to berserker. Sniped

Woah woah woah Who the hell is Meridith and why did he steal my name?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoeQ8RC-uZQ&feature=related Now it's Mere[bleep] :shades:

From what I understand you only need to ask about repairing pouches in general, which would mean that you don't need a large beforehand. Also, you need 50 rc to use the pouch, so I'd recommend keeping some stews just in case it doesn't let you put the orb in the pouch.