Psycho_Robot

I can see what you're saying, I just don't think its accurate. The reason why Castle Wars is so popular is not because people use it as a quick teleport to the bank and go "oh yea, there's this minigame thing here..." There reason why Castle Wars is so popular is because its got something for everyone, be it the strategy involved with getting the flag, the simple pleasures of straight up combat, or sneaking about the dungeons, setting traps for other players (most commonly using the cave in points). Fist of Guthix will never be as popular as Castle Wars, and in fact its unlikely that any game ever will be. Fist of Guthix has too much strategy involved in it to be the favorite of many players, but it DOES and always WILL have a dedicated fan base that will ensure it will always be populated. Forcing players to play, use, play, use, play, use their rewards accomplishes nothing, really. You can't say its supposed to be an inconvenience, because there's really nothing that this inconvenience prevents. As for PC, its clear what the inconvenience prevents: you can't go from level 1 attack to level 99 attack in a few minutes of spending points. But even this inconvenience is extremely minor, as players need only leave the docks and talk to a void knight, then they're ready to go play again. But with these gloves, a player has to go from wherever they are (most likely near a runecrafting altar) to the Fist of Guthix rewards shop, then BACK again. For non members who don't have the ring of dueling, this is a considerable pain, especially if they are a pure who chooses not to train magic, or if they don't have the magic level required for Varrock teleport. These repeated trips don't create familiarity, because what is there to be familiar with? The area is small and the players are likely to become familiar with it on the first trip. It doesn't remind anyone that the minigame exists, because, frankly, who needs to be reminded? :-s

Lackadaisical

I still don't like your argument that Jagex should keep things in their current state to keep FoG populated. If people running back to Fist of Guthix to get another pair of gloves, then leaving, is the only thing that keeps Fist of Guthix populated, then Fist of Guthix has failed as a minigame. I don't think that this is the case, and that Fist of Guthix will be perfectly fine without it.

^ Was coerced into posting by a discussion of peeing habits < Can infer lots from that fact v Offended beyond belief! How dare I?!

yes that is true but what happens when you factor in the ability to make DOUBLE cosmics-good profit and cash? that would crash the market of cosmics due to a flooding of them much like when bloods became rcable (hey if jagex can make up words so can I) I hadn't thought of that #-o

^ Needs to find a new place to pee < Pees for free and LOVES IT v Peeing RIGHT NOW (on a laptop)

But allowing you to run faster would save time aswell. Giving the amulet of glory 8 charges would also save time. Just because something saves time and makes the game easier for you doesn't mean it would make a valid update. I think RC is fine as it is. Comparing bankable air gloves to giving the glory amulet 8 charges is not a valid comparison to make. I'd say its more akin to giving worn items an Operate option to teleport without taking them off. It makes runecrafting a little easier, and a tiny bit faster with the benefit of being MUCH less aggravating. This isn't really valid either. Whether they get one at a time or they get them all at once, the players spend the SAME amount of time IN the minigame. The only thing that's different is in your scenario the player has to go back and forth for no real reason. You're literally advocating wasting time.

I'll be there! Barring unforeseen circumstances.... Such as sonic diarrhea.... :ohnoes:

Damn! Your avatar is creepy! On topic... After looking over this thread I see it there are 3 major reasons mentioned why you can't stock pile gloves: [*:35how4as]Technical limitations - they different charges mean they occupy different bank slots [*:35how4as]Game Balance limitations - You'd get xp "too fast" by crafting airs [*:35how4as]The Obligatory Reason - F2P shouldn't get anything easy Each issue raised can be dealt with pretty easily though... [*:35how4as]Technical limitations - simply change them to work like the Rings of Forging and Recoil. [*:35how4as]Game Balance limitations- of all the arguments this is the most compelling, although its not very strong regardless. Every since the RWT updates RuneCrafting has been dealt a crippling blow in the ways you can train it. The assist system's xp cap limits the amount of xp you can get to just a fraction of what you could get at world 66, or whatever the nature crafting world was. I'm not sure about the figures but I think even bankable air gloves wouldn't bring back that kind of xp. So bankable air gloves wouldn't be game breaking, it would just give people a high cost no-money way of training RuneCrafting at a decent speed. Keep in mind that, while you can use a 10-20 gloves a day, you still need to spend the time to get them, and it would yield no profit. [*:35how4as]F2P R NUBZ! NO GET GUD STUF!!! - While its true that F2P should never have equal benefits as members for any skill, that isn't to say that they shouldn't get ANYTHING. In this example, however, air gloves would perhaps become the "best" way to train runecrafting, assuming that you don't mind losing a lot of money. This would need to be balanced with additional member content, for example, Cosmic Runecrafting gloves. Cosmic runes are BARELY above the price of Pure Ess as it is, so members could use cosmic gloves to get fast xp at a severely lower profit than, say, nature runes. Mark Gehard has said that he plans on expanding the F2P version of the game, and its small updates like this that could make it work well

Well.... y'see.... I'm susceptible to LUKEWARM Arby's sauce... but hot Arby's sauce is a different story altogether. Now I'm just plain angry!

A stern looking German enters the room and explains that in German, "the" becomes "die". He then gives you a raspberry scone

You didn't microwave that Arby's sauce, did you? You didn't.... Y'see... I'm only susceptible to Arby's sauce when its lukewarm. Anything above room temperature is fine, really... but since you didn't... I find it delicious and am energized by its hearty tang. The cheese is mine and you fail epically!

^ Presumptuous < Absolutely despises woodcutting and would never think about engaging in such an environmentally unfriendly and disreputable pursuit v Abhorrent, anti-christian, amoral arboreal assassin

I second that! I don't know what you use, but I use the Tip.It theme, and purple names hardly show up at all against a gray background!

I didn't realize you had the power to end threads. Well, its not working very well in any case. Anyways this is the REAL quote from BTS: As you can see its the same paragraph that was in the post, but the last two lines were merely the player mods own words. I realize that the player mod's word is a lot more credible than others, but it IS just a player mod, not a Jagex mod. So we can't accept anything they say as a matter of fact. That said, I don't believe Jagex will ever make another rare, and that they'll either automatically fix or remove all broken pickaxes.

Your sig is hilarious by the way :thumbsup: Way oversized though, not that I'll tell! Make sure you have it saved on your comp so you don't lose it, in case a mod finds it ;)

Banned for having neither a colorful name nor a staff tag in your avatar. Deary me :boohoo:

^ NUMBAH ONE BARGAIN < Has worthless brains, so is glad to sell them for something useful v wishes he coulda got a slice of that action

These days, there's only 1 quest each month, or none (like february...) so it HAS to come out in March. Otherwise Easter quest = 150th quest. That would be a major kick to the Easter Eggs. And a major kick in my private parts... rofl I think that's what beriorn meant ;)

W00t, nice to see someone who can actually understand Chemistry! :P I'm hopeless in all my sciences (Biology and Physics, I dropped Chemistry because I can't understand ionic whatnots and covalent whatnots etc.) Also, good job on your F2P stats and all, its very respectable to have such a high total while remaining F2P :D I was OK in most sciences and I'm really good at math... yet for some reason I fail epically at chemistry! I even have trouble mixing up salt water. Good luck on your goals and don't let a big draft take that kite away along with your brittle, decrepit zombie arm! I bet that was the weirdest advice you ever got

Banned for being a cr00b

to be simply foolish? While I'm always a fan of a little foolishness, there's really no one you would amuse with this but yourself, no one else would know you only had 38 xp to go! He would be one of the closest to 99 on the highscores. Oh I just had a thought! You should kill 3 chickens. 3 chickens = 9 hp = 36 xp = 2 xp from 99 str :P

to be simply foolish? While I'm always a fan of a little foolishness, there's really no one you would amuse with this but yourself, no one else would know you only had 38 xp to go!

If that doesn't work, south of the gate there's a guy standing around next to the wall with some rope. Talk to him and he MIGHT help you climb over the wall.

why wouldn't you? :