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Take it to the hardware store and make copies A plan to ransack your house

How do you know? What evidence is there of this? Clearly that tiny dragon thingy wasn't a true dragon, but what points to it being an elder dragon?

Or, at least, have an epic showdown with them. Given that he now has both the Stone of Jas, and the Staff of Armadyl, plus his own not inconsiderable magical abilities (A thought: do the Dragonkin know who has disturbed the wards on it, and if so, do they know about his apparent ability to conceal god artifacts?), the results of such a showdown would be interesting. Plus, of course, the perfect opportunity to make our own move... >.> Thieving requirements, anyone? Lucien himself can't conceal god artifacts, the reason why the Staff of Armadyll is concealed is because one of the ghosts in the ghostly robes miniquest cast a spell to hide the staff of Armadyll so a Saradominist spy could use it to get close to Zaros without tipping off Armadyll. As for stealing the Stone of Jas, there aren't enough stat boosters in the world, man!

I just thought I'd make it clear that I don't think Lucien is being controlled by the Dragonkin, I think that Lucien is doing exactly what the Dragonkin want all on his own, and in the end he'll be killed by them

Where on earth did you got that [cabbage] from? While I wouldn't have been so *ahem* blunt about it... he's got a point; where did you hear that? I've never seen anything to suggest either of those would be true

0/10 because you always make us lose the count to 500 game!

Yes it sure is, it could relate to Guthix waking up, or even the Dragonkin waking up, as the seem to be preparing to do! Good find, that oracle seems to be quite informative!

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In the recent update posts on the main page about the Fremennik and Falador Achievement diaries, you revealed spoilers about the rewards. I don't think you should do that. People like me read the news posts and have details about the rewards, which we didn't want to know, revealed to us with no warning.

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You pose some interesting theories, but one that we should avoid getting to excited about is this one: The fact that these two dungeons appear next to eachother underground doesn't mean anything significant. Jagex recently started putting significant dungeons not directly underneath the entrances as the used to do, but far off the edges of the map. When you enter the dungeon, you are teleported from the dungeon's entrance to the dungeon itself. Because of this, dungeons that are on opposite sides of RuneScape, such as the God Wars dungeon and the Ancient Cavern, appear to be close, but are actually not. This phenomenon occurs with many dungeons all over RuneScape. For example, you can see some of the Enchanted Valley from the Summer room of the Sorceress's Garden, and you can see some of the dungeon from Recruitment Drive from the Arzanian Gold Mine. So just because you can see one dungeon from another dungeon reveals nothing about their connection. Edit: I have a Santa hat on my avatar! Where's YOURS? ;)

The Oracle really said that? The one on top of Ice Mountain? I've never heard of her saying that before, and "the thing they were fighting over" seem a bit out of character for her to say.

Banned for having album art as your avvy

You stink! I editorialize you out of existence!

Banned for sweet ms paint sig :-#

Oo! I like that idea! Ironically, it IS by the CHAOS altar, also in the wilderness, where Lucien was known to be massing his army. Yeah, I like it =D> I like this idea too, I noticed that cave while on a clue scroll and needless to say it immediately piqued my curiosity! I think its likely that this is the place that Lucien has hidden the Stone of Jas.

I took this from runescape wiki. Maybe they have a viable point. The Mahjarrat might be connected to the dragonkin through Freneskae. We never really had any proof they came from anywhere else. Things taken from the RuneScape Wiki have to be taken with a grain of salt. There's evidence that this is not the case. Jas is said to have enslaved the Dragonkin to guard the Stone of Jas long before even the beginning of the First Age. The Mahjarrat didn't arrive in Gielinor until the Second Age. Because of this I think its unlikely that the Dragonkin ever came from Freneskrae. The Dragon Halberd is in the halberd shop in the Tyras camp. There really isn't any explanation as to where it came from other than that its... there... in the shop. I think most of these can be explained by the act that the Dragonkin's downfall happened so long ago. Their weapons were left on the surface and have been circulating ever since, nothing that had them ever understood their significance. People and monsters not even remotely related to the Dragonkin just found them... and started circulating them. Also, I guess the picture I made confused some people, so I put a notice that its fake! Don't be fooled by my super-awesome Photoshop skills!

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How do we know that "its power" is not referring to the Staff of Armadyl? Its kind of taken out of context. Here's how we know!

You liked ratcatchers? :shock: (agreed on all other quests) I wonder what theyll do next if this whole majharrat/dragonkin/jas storyline finishes (if it will that is), there arent that many hidden clues to other storylines, especially not ones as old as dragonslayer (cabbage of j--). Or we may have missed most of them ofcourse. Gah! That was the worst quest EVER! Anyways.... if the Dragonkin/Stone of Jas storyline ever finishes, it will be the elder-gods who finish it

All the evidence is posted in the first post, under the "Basic Information" section, subsection "The Dragonkin Symbol"

Unless there are TWO of those doors, that door IS accessible. You can reach it by going into the south part of the God Wars Dungeon, a little bit east of the entrance to Armadyl's Eyrie. It is an intriguing mystery, yet likely not related to the Dragonkin. Your theory that the door leads to the god realm is the first such theory I've heard, and its a very good one if I do say so myself! While I appreciate the find, it has already been found. The symbol you see has been confirmed as the Dragonkin's symbol, this was discovered by very ingenious TIF users weeks before the confirmation. P.S. I've just updated the main post with new information, highlighted in cyan

Some very interesting ideas have been brought up in the last page and a half that made me reconsider my theories. First of all... That's an excellent find. I did not realize that there were 2 sources that placed Robert the Strong in the 4th age. I believed that the only source connecting him to that time period was the museum exhibit, as such I chose to believe the original history placing him in the 1st age. I'll change that in the thread and credit you for clearing that whole mess up! First of all, the image you saw of Hazelmere holding the seed pod during While Guthix Sleeps was a flashback to when he used its last charge to save your life in Path of Glouphrie. He chose to use that pod to save you then, and as such he could not use it to save his own life now. That was his choice. Secondly, that find in the quest guide is terrific! I for one never read those... so I would never have found that piece of information! That was very clever of Jagex to hide something like that in the quest journal, but you caught them! Great job =D> Lastly, you don't need to hide quest spoilers anymore, its been more than a week. That is an interesting idea I had not considered; yet it seems very plausible since the castle is so close to the water. I'll add it to the main post.