Cryptogram

Almost sounds like you want black marks lol? Jagex will look at the context in which you say things, not just individual words (apart from obvious attempts to swear), so I can't see you getting into trouble as long as you are not abusive and are not breaking any rules.

When looking at high alch values, some sites refer to this as "Speciality Shop" values. This doesn't, however, mean that there is a shop in RS which actually buys/sells these items. E.g. You could high alch a whip, and get the "Speciality Shop" value of 60,000gp, or you could low alch one (if you are completely out of your mind) and get what you would at a general store if you sold it and they had none in stock (I've never seen a general store with whips in stock).

Completely agree with shurikennin.

I did it by hitting with each of the spells then meleeing and that worked. As suggested, you should make sure you have done everything you should have. Sorry if this sounds stupid, but have you been through the whole dialogue with NPC Johnathan Fitzharmon (the guy you need to cure of poison)? good luck anyway.

Might I suggest the security stronghold. You should find a creature on the bottom floor just right for your level with quite decent drops. If you take fly fishing stuff, there is infinite food outside the place too and you can cook your catch in barbarian village where there is a permanent fire. Banking stuff? Use duelling ring and games necklace. hope this helps. :)

I had rune defender within 600 tokens, and used shot putt to get them as I had high strength. I attempted when I had 500 tokens and got to addy defender with these and had to go back for more. Also, I would advise keeping all the black knives they drop as you will get quite a lot of these. :)

I have 78 thieving. I got this quite quickly by pickpocketing master farmer just outside Ardogne. I also picked Knight of Ardogne quite a lot, but I'm not sure what level you need to be for this, and if you are just over the required level you will fail quite a lot. Master farmer, or as previously suggested, Pyramid Plunder. Incidentally, I had 60 thieving when I did DT, and picked the lock first time.

=D> Great idea. Well done. You have my support. :D :thumbsup:

I use most of the patches, as efficiently as possible, to get the most xp. Each time I complete a circuit, I get as much xp as I would from successfully growing a high level tree, perhaps more. As for the specials, the mushrooms I use to look after whiteberries, the whiteberries are used to make super defense pots (which I sell in super sets) or are sold to other herblorists. Cactus spines are required to look after yew saplings and are reasonably good xp in themselves. The nightshades have no use to me at the moment, but I'm collecting them for future herblore (only level 74 at this time). Poison ivy bushes are used in herblore as well, but give nice xp all the same when health-checked. As for calquats, I plant these as the check-health is worth over 12k xp when they survive. The only use for the fruits is to hollow them out and store 4 measures of my Slayer's Respite in them. The higher my farming level gets, the more I feel like I'm doing the circuit for 'routine' or 'steady' xp. It's definitely the trees (mage, palm, calquat, yew, papaya etc) that really make a big difference at higher levels, so if you can afford lots of high level tree seeds and you plant them in conjunction this circuit, you can expect your farming level to rise quite quickly. If you cannot or won't use a glory, I would suggest walking from Lumbridge to Draynor, and when teleing back from Trollheim, go to Falador instead of Draynor. All other steps would remain the same, but without a glory, the Draynor/Falador allotment would involve quite a bit of walking... :boohoo: Hope this explains... :)

So. Be the flame... Profound... Nice post.

I Appreciate your comments, Mamong, thanks. Firstly, I agree about the hops patches. I brew Slayer's Respite and only use the one patch for that as it is clearly on my route. I visit the tree patches usually only to pick fruit, and plant new fruit tree seeds in one patch only (Catherby), unless it's the same tree as the one that was in there before. I do this route once a day at most, and sometimes not every day. It is meant to be a suggested circuit for those who wish to level up in farming consistently, and gives quite decent xp in my experience. The entire route takes approximately 45 minutes, and the banking (with the exception of Ardougne allotments) is via teleporting with glory and duelling ring. As mentioned in the guide, two of my bush patches are whiteberry, which are useful for herblore and always sought after (so xp isn't my only motivation :wink: ), and the other patch, in which I plant poison ivy, is good xp imho.

I play because I like to meet people, find out what they do, and make use of my experience in the game by helping others (there's no point in hoarding experience imho because it's us vs. the world). Yesterday, some idiot was stood in the flax-spinning room in Lumbridge castle, shutting the door and making it difficult for people to come in and go out. He said (amongst other rantings) that he was depressed because he had a shattered knee and couldn't walk properly, so he didn't see why anyone else should have an easy time. There are aspects of personal behaviour in Runescape that have their similies in real life; this guy would probably be a miserable bully, and socially excluded by his own choice, rather than getting on with life. I asked him to add me, then I switched worlds so that I didn't have to put up with his behaviour. To my amazement, he did add me, and told me in great detail what was troubling him. After chatting for a while, he said he felt better and was no longer causing a nuisance, and that he was off to the wilderness to see how many players he could kill. So, Runescape stops being just a game when stuff like this happens, and becomes a real, live community of people. That's what I feel is its biggest success, and what really appeals to people. Of course, there are those who take it really seriously, and don't take time to get to know anyone... No judgements though.

Yep, I had probs the last 3-4 days. Everything else works though. Maybe Jagex are tweaking something to enable them to detect world switchers? The latest Swiftswitch wasn't having any of it until yesterday, but I stopped using world switchers until Jagex make themselves clear on where they stand. They aren't great when it comes to communication regarding technical stuff , although they requested that Swiftswitch remove their world watcher (something that keeps an eye on the availability of a world and alerts the user when it becomes accessable).

I wouldn't because all my RS friends wouldn't recognise me. Mind you, I don't know if that would be so bad... I don't like the 1 that I was forced to have. :evil: There wasn't anyone called Cryptogram, so why should I have to use it? :-k

lmao - I knew this would put the cat among the pigeons. :twisted: This is a popular and old technique, which anyone with half a brain could figure out. What I originally wrote won't make a blind bit of difference, and you must be nuts to think otherwise. =;

Just a quick one here... For all you people out there who stand around at PC saying "need good world!", you might want to try this. It doesn't always work, so don't flame me for this, but try it anyway. With this method I find a good world within five minutes maximum. Basically, on the world select screen (after updating it), look through the worlds. You will find that groups of them have similar numbers of people logged in to them. Sometimes, in a group of worlds you will notice that one of these has about 40 - 100 more people than those around it. Try these ones, and you'll eventually find a good world. Worlds 132, 100, 99, 66 and some others are always more full, so I don't bother with these normally. Good luck! \ By the way, if you are a low level nublet, please ignore this. =;

Those rations only work at CW I think

Interesting guidelines. In a nutshell, either hit the portal or cull anything heading for the knight. It's interesting to read all the little bits that don't occur to people who are 100+, like food, getting your 50, specialising on certain creatures etc. I didn't start doing PC until my brother invited me there and by then I was combat 100. All I ever did was run straight through to destroy the yellow portal, then either pink portal or blue depending on which was healthier. Apart from occasionally changing which portal I go to first, my routine hasn't changed. A good read... \

Oooooh Kay, thanks for your input Cha0sx?

wachtwoord - thanks for reading. :)

Good point. Most of the payments are things that you are currently able to grow. Especially for the fruit trees as they usually ask for fruit from the tree that comes before it. You'll never be asked for something that you can't yet grow. Now you are level 60, to plant a yew seed and get it looked after will cost you 10 cactus spines. I would also advise having a curry tree somewhere in your circuit as the leaves are used to look after watermelon. Strawberries require 5 apples in a basket, but apples can be easily obtained from the "buy-food chest" in lumbridge basement if you have started Recipe quest. Aside from sweetcorn, these are the crops you should grow if you want decent xp. If you don't have any of the payments you need, you can buy from other players. Let me know if you need any by PM on this site : I wear a fully charged glory which is only used at the final allotment. The runes I use are 6 law, 3 fire, 4 air, 2 water and 1 earth - these are for house tele, Trollheim tele, Varrock tele and Ardougne tele. The only other teles involved (apart from how you get to Castle Wars to start) are duelling ring to Al Kharid and a full glory going back and forth to the final allotment from Draynor.

I had a lvl 3 clue scroll many times when I did my last blue dragon stint (seven scrolls from 2k-ish dragon kills). Once, I got one and picked it up, looked at it and dropped it. My next kill after it had disappeared was another clue scroll. This has happened to someone else I know, also at blue dragons.

Thanks for your comments, guys. This guide is indeed intended for the more advanced farmer as a suggested circuit. I have tried to include advice for people who may be of a lower level. Not intended to be anything special, just sharing my experience in this underrated skill. Just to mention though, most of the things I plant I have protected by the gardener, and my sweetcorn crops have never died while a scarecrow is in place. The only things that sometimes fail (maybe once every six or seven times) are the herbs that I leave at the various allotments, so this method, I find, is quite effective.

thanks! :D

Hi, thought I'd share my farming circuit. Maybe it'll help, maybe you can feed back some useful advice. This post was last updated on 22nd Dec 2007. My farming circuit uses most of the patches but doesn't include hops patches (with the exception of Yanille). This isn't a beginner's guide. It's not really a guide so much as an example of one of many possible circuits and can only really be fully effective for people with at least level 57 farming. I won't talk here about various gardener payments, levels needed to plant various seeds etc as all of this information is easily accessed in the farming guide on this site. If you are a beginner, I'd recommend starting off in Catherby, farming and fishing. Simply plant your seeds, water them, then...go fish! When you have a full load of fish, run back to the allotments and water your plants. Repeat this until they are grown. Whatever you do, don't just stand around like a lemon complaining that farming is boring! :roll: Special crops included in this guide could be omitted if you are just starting out, as you need to be level 53 to start these, and fruit trees begin with the apple tree at level 27. Normal trees start with the oak at level 15 which is not a difficult level to attain. When starting this skill, it's best not to get too many of the lower level seeds as you will quickly progress to higher level seeds and you will no longer need them. This is particularly important if you wish to buy the seeds off other players, and you'll find the basic seeds are dropped often enough not to have to buy them. Since the Grand Exchange appeared, you can get an idea of the prices from there, and you should be able to find what you need quite quickly and cheaply. Keen Slayers among you will know how useful that skill is for seeds, and at 60 slayer upwards, Aberrant Spectres and Nechryaels especially will shower you with useful herb seeds. Once you get to level 23 farming, and provided you can access all of the allotments, I'd thoroughly recommend getting yourself three scarecrows, and planting these at all allotments except for Catherby. This way, you can buy, thieve or collect sweetcorn seeds (normally, 300-500gp each is a fair price) and plant them there - they will never die when you have a scarecrow, and are good xp for farming and cooking. Scarecrows are made using a sack on a haystack, using a spear on that, then popping a watermelon on as a head. Basically, if you wish to level up quite quickly, then you'll need to plant both fruit and normal trees, as high level as you can of course, or whatever you can get your hands on. =P~ It's also worth mentioning here that if you are taking payments for trees in this circuit, you can carry the payments in note-form as the gardeners do accept this. If you're made of money, then the Grand Exchange is the key for tree seeds. Even with magic seeds, an order of 10 can be fulfilled easily within 24 hours, although alas, people seem to want to stash their watermelon seeds for themselves. :? Also, I mention during the circuit guide that I use three of the allotments for sweetcorn. As strawberry seeds are now easily obtained from the Grand Exchange, you may wish to plant these instead for more xp,and pay the paltry sum of two baskets of apples(5) to pay for both patches to be protected. Here's the circuit. It takes approximately 1 hour 45 minutes including chopping down five magic trees, so it varies slightly, as does the start of the circuit. Usually I start at Castle Wars, but since I find myself at the Grand Exchange lately on log-in, I sometimes start by taking the spirit tree from Varrock to the Gnome Tree Village as shown here. I then speak to Elkoy at the far South-West of the village. This involves a lot less running than the original start. Credit and thanks to Freesia (aka Eradicate it) for the idea. : 1. Castle Wars start - East and North to the fruit tree patch carrying hops seeds or barley seeds and payment for them to be looked after. 2. South to Yanille (or teleport to the Watchtower) and plant barley or higher in the hops patch (the only hops patch I use, and if I haven't any wildblood seeds, I still plant barley at least). 3. After banking at Yanille, a run North from Yanille bank to the berry patch outside of the monastery, carrying the cost of the boat ride from Ardougne to Karamja (15gp with Karamja diary gloves), and an Ardougne teleport. I plant whiteberries here. You only really need an Ardougne teleport if you can plant Calquat, if not, take the return fare if using gp, and skip point 5). Also, if you intend to plant a fruit tree don't forget the sapling, as well as your axe, and bear in mind you may want to replenish your run energy on this leg of the circuit. 4. North-North East to Ardougne docks, on the boat to Karamja and to the fruit tree patch. 5. South to the calquat patch in the Northern part of Tai Bwo Wannai village. When picking calquat fruit, if you have more than six inventory spaces available you may wish to fill up on pineapples on the way. 6. Teleport to Ardougne and bank at the South bank if you have a Jade Vine. Depending on whether you are checking-health or fighting this nasty piece of work, this will be where you get your armour, antipoison and anything else you may need for the fight. You need your secatuers in your inventory for the next bit to get the seed. If you don't have one of these beasts, after teleporting to Ardougne simply bank at the North bank in preparation for the next step. 7. North to Ardougne allotment where I grow sweetcorn with scarecrow and herbs (+see step 8). Sometimes I do a round of thieving from the Master Farmer on the way (38 thieving required). I use 16 cakes and thieve until they run out. 8. North-East to Catherby and bank (not that far to walk/run). This is where I grow strawberries or watermelons and get them looked after. I also plant herbs and limpwort (+generally, when leaving herbs to grow unattended, I use irit, avantoe or kwuarm as these are very commonly found from various monster drops, and I'm not bothered if they fail as irit and avantoe especially are as common as compost). 9. Obviously, bank at Catherby. Then East to the fruit tree patch on Catherby beach. 10. Next, using the Ectophail, run West to the allotment near the undead cows. Again, sweetcorn with scarecrow and herbs (if banking, I recommend Castle Wars teleport to drop off produce, then Ectophail yourself back with the seeds). Then a short run West to Canafis bank. 11. From Canafis, having picked up one mushroom spore, one cactus seed, one berry seed, and one fruit tree sapling, I go West to the mushroom patch North of Mort Myre swamp (here, I pick up two supercomposts, ready for the next step as getting to the leprichaun is my pet hate. In my humble opinion, they need nailing to the floor! :wall: ). 12. Using a duelling ring, teleport to Al Kharid Duelling Arena, and run to the cactus patch which is just South of the Duelling Arena entrance. After recycling my cactus, I then drop off my equipment with the leprichaun. 13. I travel from Al Kharid to the Grand Tree via the Gnome Glider which is a short run West from the cactus patch. I then run to the fruit tree patch South of the Grand Tree itself. Also, there's a regular tree patch South-South West of there too. If you are planting a regular tree here and you have a spirit tree in Etcetera, you may wish to perform step 14 and then return via your spirit tree to the Grand Tree to plant the regular tree. 14. If you have not grown a spirit tree in Etcetera, you could skip to stage 16. Otherwise, West from the fruit tree to the spirit tree. If you have planted the spirit tree in Etcetera, you will have the option to travel there. Here is the location of the spirit tree patch in Etcetera, and a fully grown spirit tree. I don't know why it has a face like a smacked backside, it just does. Perhaps it doesn't get diseased, it just gets depressed. 15. West of the spirit tree patch is the remote bush patch in Etcetera. Of course, this patch only comes into any real practical use with the spirit tree nearby. After you recycle this bush, if you have a regular tree to plant in the Tree Gnome Stronghold, go back there using your spirit tree again and run South. There's a bank between the spirit tree and the regular tree patch where you can bank. 16. Home teleport to Lumbridge where I bank, and pick up one beladonna, one berry seed and one of my best herb seeds. I wear a fully charged glory, and carry runes to teleport to my house and to Trollheim (explained below). However, there's another regular tree patch at Lumbridge just round the back of the castle grounds. If you wish to plant a sapling while you're there, do this now then glory teleport to Draynor afterwards to bank and pick up the above items. 17. Having gotten to Draynor then, with the items explained in step 16 run north to the beladonna patch in Draynor Manor gardens (Western side). Don't forget your gloves or you will be poisoned and will not be able to pick the cave nightshade! 18. House teleport to Rimmington (in my case), then go to the berry patch slightly West of the house portal (here, I plant poison ivy seeds as these have good check-health xp). 19. Next, teleport to Trollheim, running to the herb patch on the roof of the Troll Stronghold (here, of course, I use my most valuable herb seeds). You will learn of the advantages of this particular patch during My Arm's Big Adventure, but in short, your herbs never die here (something to do with altitude and camel poo I think :-k ). 20. Glory to Draynor again and bank, then run North-West to the allotment located South-East of Falador carrying a spade (I always bank my produce when farming, and generally use the glory charges for this allotment, going back and forth with compostables, sweetcorn and seeds etc.). When finished with this patch, I give all of my equipment including my magic secatuers back to the leprichaun. 21. Teleport to Varrock and run to the berry patch near Champion's Guild (or use a charged combat bracelet to get there). There's a regular tree patch in the East side of the castle grounds too. You may want to visit this before the bush patch if you're using saplings here as it's closer to the place you teleport to. 22. After you've finished your business in Varrock, teleport to Falador and bank. A run North to Taverley brings us to the penultimate step in the circuit. The tree patch in North-East Taverly is used when I have saplings that need planting (sometimes I don't). I generally use the opportunity to recharge glories if I need to by teleporting to the Warrior's Guild with a combat bracelet first, then run South to the patch via the Heroes Guild. Once you've done your thing there. Teleport to Falador to the final tree patch in Falador park. I use the tree patch in Falador only for mage trees (I like to chop away while catching up with prices sometimes : ). I have calculated the total xp from this circuit to be about 10,945. This is based on everything growing successfully, and making thirty super-compost. Picking two palms, one papaya and one curry tree only (not checking health). All herbs (avantoe at the four allotments, 7 herb leaves from each) and allotment plants (30 sweetcorn from each of the three allotments and 30 strawberries from Catherby) growing successfully, and growing dwarf weed at Trollheim and picking six leaves from that. This does not include the 1200+xp from the Jade Vine every other round. Of course, the yeild is variable, so this is not exact. =; I have, however, completed circuits having grown all mage trees, all palms and the highest xp-yeilding crops and have come away with in excess of 120,000 xp on one circuit, so levelling can be sped up tenfold if you have the cash. When I have plenty of seeds, I'll plant cadantine, lantadyme, ranaar, generally higher level seeds and take my chances with the four allotments. I'll lose about one in seven herb crops at most. My snapdragon, dwarf weed and torstol are planted only at the Trollheim patch. Personally, I always plant whiteberries and jangerberries in patches South of Ardougne and at South-West Varrock as these are sought-after secondaries for herblore. Also, I produce supercompost at Catherby and South-East of Falador allotments. I hope that this is of some use to you. As I said, any constructive criticism would be appreciated. :D 89 farming on 11 Dec 07 Thanks for reading. :wink: