MtNeraka

when it's a lot of logs, that's respectable yah. why dont you actually try fm'img? Then youll find out how hard it is compared to some skills... ie. fletching, cooking, prayer (bought) (most people can do it in 5 days with the required materials) I dont see many fm capes walking around? Do you?

fletching you gain money, cooking cost a couple mil loss, firemaking from level 81 to 99 is 12mil not that much really i would really like to see you buy herblore and cons cons easily breaks 50m and herblore is very diffcult to get the herbs and selling them *Cough* ~120m *cough* :lol: my friend who recently got 99 cons said it cost him around 130m... (I didnt know him very well, wed like talk once a week on friends list)

I thought that steel is steel and not iron because it has *less* coal in it, that it is sorta "purified"? Correct me if I'm wrong. Steel is actually about 99% iron and 1% carbon, so it is an alloy of iron and coal. Somehow, that makes it stronger. Don't ask me how. Those are problems; however, based on that alone, you can't say that RS isn't educational, since you looked right over some aspects that are. I think that RS is educational. It's not all textbook type knowledge, there's also, as I have noticed recently, semi-life lessons, mainly that you have to stick with something to get ahead in life and never give up. I've learned the most, however, from the RS economy. I never really cared about the real world economy; I like money, but it bored me. To see an economy in a world that you liked, where you went for fun, was new to me, and I started to become interested in both the RS economy and the real economy. So is RS educational? I think so. I was reading this history book and it was describing how they made swords. They had iron then after they "smelted" that, if you will. Dipped it in coal or something, they had burned the coal so it was hot enough to help like re-enforce the iron or something, but yah, coal is a part of making steel from iron, that's all i know for sure. I mean RS does have some educational value, im not saying it has THAT much. certainly not grammar benefits... >_> you cant say "It's" you have to say "Its" or else it goes "It'*" But yah, it does have some educational value. SOME.

Yes, if it costed that much, i would agree. But who would actually pay that XD a 99 skill would cost... lets see. 130 Billion. XD Ka-Ching! Considering the most money i think you can have is 2.4bil, this will take a while. maybe more like. 1xp : 1k gp. 13B... but still, i honestly dont think skills should actually be bought. you have to at least put some effort into it.

Adamfostas, very good ideas. =D> I especially like the witchwood tree idea, this would add more "spunk" if you will to the wildy's environment. right now its just like grey and black and dead trees, and people killing eachother (there is more, so don't get me wrong) just there should be a bit more in it...

Very good debate. Other than some one word answers. *glare at certain people* I honestly don't like rc pkers very much, but I do people if you are going to craft in the wildy its your risk your taking, and that what makes runecrafting a more unique skill compared to some others, with the abbys and everything. It adds more danger to get a better runes. I still think fairy rings are the way to go for rcing

Yes, if it costed that much, i would agree. But who would actually pay that XD a 99 skill would cost... lets see. 130 Billion. XD

lol. "recycled blue coloured paper in the template design of a party hat" I would laugh if that became an item name.

I say it shouldin't be changed. that would just damage another aspect of how it relates to reality in some aspects. Try and use a spell checker next time, please. No offense.

Honestly do we need that much of a censoring system? I know some games have limited words censored. F**K, S**T, Phone, etc. just some basic words that are either complete "vulgar" or are invading personal information. But really, why do they have such a censor system? Are they aiming the game to be played by a 7 year-old whose showing their mom/dad the game "wow i got lvl 7 runecrafting! hehe! this took me a whole hour!" Like, I honestly don't see the point in it >_> If someone wants to talk trash to you/someone else, just block them... lol. :uhh:

I honestly hope they make the graphics MUCH better or else people will lose interest soon. Look how many FREE games are out there with AMAZING graphics compared to runescape? rakion? all those crazy japanese and asain games, I can see it now "Runescape is shut down in 2010 because of loss of players"

Well... >_> nothing really ruins the wildnerness (until someone comes out with macro pkers that automatically eat food and are lvl 126 and own everyone and have ancient magicks...) until then wildy will never be ruined. It will just... get worse... and worse... and worse.. lol.

Well, i wouldin't say it's completely ruined! its definetly gone downhill... espescially f2p wildy from around 1-15 (they just safe the entire time, unless your pure its hard to pk anyone). Members wildy is where its at for now... (other than rc pkers, etc. I hate them with a passion.) Most people are honest pkers and will fight you to the death without safing/tele. 15+ wildy is where its at. =]

Well i believe it does give you an educational benefit.. I, for one have experienced this first hand! I went to this midevil fair thing (yes, i know i am a nerd XD) and there was a person making different weapons from rods of steel, etc. and they asked "does anyone know what i am making this on" and i said "an anvil" and no one else knew... or maybe everyone else is just really stupid. #-o Runescape does have many things that are very realistic to things that had happened in the past, woodcutting, firemaking, fishing, cooking, mining, smithing, range, attack, defense, strength, construction, hunting, farming, fletching, crafting, and thieving. These were all aspects of midevil culture, this is alot more realistic than most games. There are also details that are related to real life, ie. you mine iron and coal to create steel. this is a true aspect they really visited two different mines to make steel weapons... some games you are able to mine steel. XD Well, thats basically my point. Yes, I believe there is an educational value to runescape. :thumbsup:

LOL!?!?! YOUR MORE CHALLENGED THAN WE ARE?! haha, you deserve to get your lvl 90+ banned if you decided to macro in the first place, wow your are one complete idiot. Maybe its hard getting macroed goods onto your main? You wanna know why its so hard? BECAUSE ITS AGAINS THE RULES! you shouldint be able to break rules easily, now should you? That would make them inaffective. GOD!!!! YOU PISS ME OFF SO MUCH. :wall: :evil:

I bet we are challenged more than you guyz.. I mean u know how hard it is to get the macroed goods onto ur main without getting it banned?.. It's a pain .. And I know soo many macroers that have had their lvl 90+ banned cuz of it.. ANd many started macroing cuz of unjust Bans.. I just say why waste 30 mins cutting a tree for money, when I can make a script to do it, while I get the money and programming experience.. I think ur exaggerating.. I don't really like macroers that abuse.. I say make 1-3 acounts and lvl them and treat em well You gotta realize that you have no idea about what u are talking about and that u might be the one that will end up living in their mom's basement because they are still trying to get their 1 mill.. While on the other hand many macroers just macro for fun, and are pretty young.. I think average are 15- 19.. While the macroing has gotten us ( i mean them), very good at programming and in the future will work for jagex.................................. NOT... I actually kinda respect jagex.. I mean programming a macro for the game is extremely difficult.. I can't imagine how hard it was for making the game it self.. rofl...macroers making rune axes? Someone who macros come and tell me your highest level before getting banned? I'm 100% positive of the following: a. Most wont have even gotten to ANY levels of 85+ (req'd to make rune axes) before getting banned. b. None of them auto-smelt, there's little or no profit in that. c. Lets say they did make rune axes and sell them for 10k ea...they arn't making any money and will get banned! Summary - Your wrong on that part...selling yews for 150 ea? possible, but not likely because a macroer macros for money and want all of the money they can get out of it. Max I got ( I mean my friend got) was 65 mining.. But I (i mean my friend) had the acount trained up and stuff.. He doesn't really macro with lvl 3s with default clothes... I also don't really think ppl will macro after lvl 70 MAX.. if their doing it .. than boy they got guts... Time to sell that lvl 65 mining guy :P.. Joking.. I don't even own it.. :-$ sounds like your definetly a macroer. First off. programming a macroer? that could not take that long? All you have to do is record your mouse movements.. very simple code, avoiding the random event system would take a while, for example, making a wc autoer would be EXTREMELY easy, well for me anyways. I would never try to make one because i try hard at the game and i know many others do, so why would you just program a macro-party and let them on a killing spree to destroy more trees, and sell to make millions without having to do any work!!! :wall: your main thing is "oh well, its hard programming a macroer" Not really, if i tried i could create a troop in the hundred. But why would i do that? I wouldin't, because its breaking the rules!!! and its no fair to other people. Listen i have made countless video games, demos, tutorials on programming, etc. Believe me, making a macroer is the least you would be able to do if you were an intermediate programmer. Like... I mean it just pisses me off how your point of view is "well, macroing is ok cause it takes work to program" How much work? an hour? 2 hours? maybe 3 hours max? Great how much money would you get off of that? We spend countless hours playing and all you have to do is create a stupid macro and all the sudden you log on after a week on macroing 24/7 "oh hey, im lvl 60" (@)$#*(!@#$*%@()$%*^&(@)^*&(@)^*&(@%^&*()$#^(& :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

77 firemaking! =]

Thats it? Ive already burned 14k willows. and i just started trying to go for 99 fm.... wow. your almost done. good job!! Im burning willows all the way from 60-99 im at 77 right now. #-o

77 fm. tomorrow youll probably have 80. and ill have 78 78-80... meh close enough. Ill hopefully catch up sometime.. >.> I do have a life though lol i normally only go on 1-2 hours a day.

*tear* im 3 levels behind you. ill get 77 tonight. i took a break to do questing. =P

your kidding right...? lol. Well. thats an awesome f2p account! good work!

thanks. good luck to you too.

congratz on 99 toast! =P. Good job.

awww... sad to see fellow rs players quit. but life and school do take a priority over rs... the later less for me lol... -.- I need to stop playing as much. but i dont think id go as far as quitting. Why cancel your membership? Why dont you give it to you one of your friends in r/l or something?

Alrighty, I'll add bars for both. :) this is close! i plan to get 77 fm tonight.