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Now that diagonal movement has been added, there is no longer a general best place at the NE corner. Where do you think is the best place to start each round?

What is your def? With Guthans you should be fine with 3 or 4 sara brews. Range pot is not really needed but can really cut down the time you spend killing Jad so I would bring. Definitely take blk body and chaps because you will want Jad to die as fast as you can get him too. I would take snakeskin.

I got to 360 with nothing but a few salmon in my inventory using a crystal bow. You really could just melee everything except the 360 itself. Bring enough pray pots and use melee pray against the 180s. once you get to 360s you can bring msb and rune arrows and range pot and just use mage protect until its dead. Then you don't have to train anything. It will take a little while with your range lvl but you won't have to worry about running out of stuff if you bring sara brews and super restores. You could be your best melee with all the pray bonus you can sub for. Bring red body and chaps and msb. 1 range pot 4 sara brews and fill with super restores. It should not be so bad.

What is your magic lvl? You could consider bringing blood rush.

I keeping seeing that stupid map but I disagree with using it. When you go with there, you cannot easily see what is in the 33 spawn until it hits you with a ranged style or moves much closer to you. I suggest basing around a flat safe spot.

What is vengence?

Your character can do it, but you really need to study prayer switches before you can do it. Practice makes perfect and once you are perfect you do not have to practice anymore.

You truly have to be masterful to melee Jad because you would have to change between all three prayers and any mistake could be your last. You could do it without raising your range and use mage on Jad but it will be VERY expensive. I have heard of people using ancients through most of cave but they must have spent millions on runes.

I thought you could not be atked as a stone or egg. I thought people did it to get there cool back. You can get your egg scrambled?

Retaliate MUST be off until you face Jad otherwise you will get crushed with melee from running around corners.

Yes ALL of them can. Even the mini-45s. Everything moves diagonal which makes luring extremely more difficult. Most people are glad cause it makes it really hard for pures to do the caves.

With those stats I would have to suggest taking blood rush so you can heal up to full health at the end of rounds.

I took a look at it. It was pretty good but I don't think that SW corner is good since you can't see what is right next to you in the 33 spawn.

I have seen both 3s and 4s go for 8k and 9k

Cannon are great if you have the cash to support it. If not you could consider making your own c balls. Rock crabs is a great spot.

What is the best place to start each round? Why?

Question Could you make a creasture movement map? I am trying to figure out what the best "safe haven" is and I am trying to figure out why you use the northern side of the Italy rocks.

Well I was goin' to use the pure method and it affects that a lot cause you can not lure the same. I am trying to figure out where to make my safe haven now. I am currently thinking to use the western wall of the claw. Maybe I should make a new thread on it.

People keep refering people to Muggi's guide but it is actually qute outdated. It has A LOT of really good info but if you just use it then you wil be in for a big surprise when you use his NE "safe zone" and get PWNED due to the addition of diagonal movement. Someone needs to make a new creature movement map. I might soon. I think the best place to go now is the NW corner on western wall of the claw. That way you can see what spawns next to you and use the claw or Italy rock to save yourself.

FYI: I have yet to go for Jad, but I plan to when I get a few more stats. I did however take a look at some strategy yesterday since I realized the big diagonal change. I went into the corner this guy suggested and it worked alright. However I used all the other safe spots (all I know about). And I think it is best to operate out of the north west corner. When using the south west you can't see very well what spawns in the "bad" spawn. (I think listed as 33) However in the north west corner you are on the top of the hill and it is mostly flat so you can see what is near you very quickly and react immediately and go to the claw or italy rock. What do you think?

Which gives you more prayer levels back, pray pot or super restore pot? I am lvl 51 pray if that effects it. Anyone know the numbers?

I was about to start my journey for a fire cape when I learned the Muggi's guide is out of date due to an addition of diagonal movement. I know the NE corner Strategy very well but will that not work anymore? I was seeing something about the top of the northwest corner. Can anyone make an updated guide?

So is this the new lure method since the diagonal update. This means you can't use the NE corner anymore?

Everyone refers back to Muggi's guide but is his guide outdated now?

I don't see how it could be a glitch. You prally just lagged away from the hits and got pwned by the 180s master melee. Better Luck next time.