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Ah I'm jealous. They're one of the bands I want to see most. Absolutely love them, Ben Gibbard is a genius.

I dont recall saying anything different, I think I may have said it seems that way. "You make it hard for me not to think you all need alcohl to have fun"

Idk if anyone's posted this yet, cba to click everyone's links. Anyway, this is just a hideously bad cover, shat all over one of Ben Gibbard's best songs. [yt]4LRKw_eLSko[/yt]

Well bearing in mind the content of your previous post, perhaps you just live in a rougher area and have created a biased stereotype based on what you've seen. And I don't recall anybody saying they need alcohol to enjoy themselves. It just adds to the fun.

Perfetc, I can see why you personally would choose not to drink. I know it's hard seeing a family member cope with alcoholism. But you've asked a few times why people feel the need to get drunk. I do it to relax; I enjoy the lack of control - I would rather be having fun completely smashed, crawling because I can't walk any more, spilling all my drink down myself etc than walking around like a boring person sipping a nice cool glass of lemonade in complete control of my actions. Sober, I'm quite a shy, won't-speak-unless-spoken-to sort of person, but when I'm drunk it's the best feeling in the world to be able to dance, sing, start talking to strangers etc without any of the normal self-conscious bull[cabbage] that stops me doing that sober. It's fine, as long as you don't become dependant on it.

Ugh, just thought I'd check out the new Eminem album and it's pretty embarrassing. I know he sells albums for acting like an angry kid but it's not funny any more

Perfetc, your arguments are all heavily based on stereotype and seem to assume that every time anybody so much as smells a beer they become a violent alcoholic. I never do these sort of posts but your last post made me die a bit inside. (Just so you know, I didn't die a bit inside near my liver, that'll be fine until I next have a drink, at which point it'll disintegrate and break into a million pieces that spell out "drinking is bad, mmkay.") Or perhaps the ministers enjoy a glass of wine with their dinner. Perhaps they realise that maybe a few million others enjoy this. Perhaps they know that a glass of red wine a day is supposed to be good for you. Maybe they're even aware that people would still be able to get hold of alcohol and that it'd be incredibly difficult, expensive and impractical to punish people for drinking inside their own home. Also - you mention tax. You don't drink, so if Parliament banned alcohol and cigarettes, they'd charge more tax in the form of council tax or whatever. This would be punishing everybody really, and unfair on people who choose not to drink. That didn't make sense. If everyone was good then the Government would allow them to have kids? People aren't good, and the Government allow them to. I don't understand the point you're trying to make. "Realise there's life outside a bottle" - [bleep]ing hell! People don't automatically become dependant on alcohol the minute they drink it! Enjoying a drink every now and then doesn't mean our lives revolve around it! What?! I've got a bunch of friends aged sixteen with jobs! Sixteen-year-olds CAN and DO get jobs. Do some research before you make a point. What's that got to do with alcohol? Anyway, if it was the other way round, you'd be allowed to watch others have sex at a younger age than you can actually have sex. So people would want to and know how to have sex before they're allowed to. Which results in more people having underage sex, therefore more underage parents. (I know people do watch others having sex at a younger age than sixteen, but I'm talking about if everyone stuck to the law) I do see what you're saying to an extent but it's a flawed argument. A bottle of Smirnoff costs £12. I can get drunk on half of this, so that's £6. If you get drunk on cheap vodka that's probably, what, £3? That's less than an hour's work. So no, it doesn't cost much to get drunk. And as for the NHS argument: your views on people who drink are very heavily stereotyped. Not many people get into fights. Very few people get hit by cars. Just having a few drinks and enjoying yourself won't lead to you becoming an alcoholic. You're not really that much more likely to get raped while drunk seeing as most rapists are probably stronger than the average rape victim, plus it's as easy to slip a date-rape pill into a glass of water as a glass of alcohol. But you have got one thing right. What the hell, it is fun. Edit: 600th post :D

Still hasn't persuaded me, lol

I hate begging. I don't mind helping people with small things though, will occasionally chuck in some money when I leave them on the condition that they haven't asked for it. But I'll only help people if they say please - P-L-E-A-S-E, not "plzzzzzz"

Drowning

I believe you mean c-rap ;)

Possibly seeing Mumford & Sons tonight, with Temper Trap and Stephen Fry. Part of the iTunes Festival in London. How two bands I've never heard of managed to get above somebody so famous on the bill is beyond me. If I do go it's only to see Stephen Fry before leaving to go get a Nando's :D

The Get Up Kids - Forgive And Forget

Death metal band/album names make me laugh. So uplifting and cheery :P

Can't wait to see it, I loved Borat. Annoyed that it's an 18, will have to buy a ticket for another film and then sneak in lol.

Drink coffee :thumbsup:

It's not like it's gonna kill you...unless you drink the entire bottle, then *maybe*. Drink moderately and nobody will have any problems. A bottle of wine does nothing, just leaves you with a black tongue for the rest of the evening ;)

I never really used them anyway. Why did they get rid of it being F1 = special attack to F12 = music (I think)? That made sense.

Gtfo :lol: Haha, that's brilliant. I haven't used them yet... Might use them to record how much exp I had at the start of the day and then check at the end how much I gained. Sounds dumb but I like knowing stuff like that lol.

Tony Hawk. They're good games and everything but there's only so much you can do with a skateboard. Guitar Hero needs to be stopped before they kill it. Same with The Sims.

Would stay atheist and just laugh at all the idiots fighting. Despite a lot of religions preaching love etc.

I just grab two slices that are next to each other, except for the end bits.

mewithoutYou's 'it's all crazy! it's all false! it's all a dream! it's alright.' It fits the album really well imo. Portugal. The Man's 'The Satanic Satanist' Sunny Day Real Estate's 'Diary'

Jamie T - Sticks N Stones. Catchy as hell, absolutely love it.

I [bleep]ing hate Brokencyde. Everything from their image to their music to their stupid name, which is stupidly written (brokeNCYDE, really?) Idk, I can imagine myself as a 14 year old liking them. Which isn't a good thing at all. Also can't stand Duffy, Kings of Leon or Amy Winehouse. Or on the other end of the scale, bands like Trivium.