Then don't do it. When the hell did the concept of "playing for fun" die? the day rs2 came out yeah the welcoming of the kq, dk, barrows, castle wars, thzar pits, + all the other things that rs2 holds just arnt fun are they :roll: ( could go on for another 5 mins but you catch the jist) Agility and theiving. sure your always doing somthing (i usually stick to rs and music) but i dont like to fail at things. ive never done pyramid plunder so it was straight pickpocketing for me and agility is always at the agility course in the wild or brimhaven, and i always fail alot at both skills lol. discouraging really, could be why they are both so low. all the things you listed arent skills, im talking about skills, we used to lvl them for fun but now its just about how high can you get on the highscores, skills to people are just "work" now lol yeah you're right many people do think of some of the skills as just work because that is a bit what they are.that may be why jagex has castle wars and those other thing so people can take breaks :thumbsup: