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I love how at the beginning of the Simpsons Movie Bart is writing "I will not illegally download this movie" on the chalk board

Thing is, they haven't been proven to be terrorists. That and the UN's declaration of universal Human Rights

I know someone already posted why he's in but I thought I'd post this anyway. Everyone has the right to silence and the police can't do a damn thing about it if you choose to use it. I think the [cabbage] will hit the fan soon, because I don't know about USA, but the only way Canada can hold people is through the Terrorist cards and act thing which name I can't remember.

Holy crap, I completely forgot about Johnny Quest. If you liked that, you MUST watch The Venture Bros

You suggested using torture under the assumption that it actually works, it does not. If you had read any of my previous posts in the thread you would have known that.

I'm aware he was referring to me, and I don't really care. He contributed nothing to the topic so whatever. Still waiting on any evidence that torture > rapport building. Rapport building will save lives, not torture

Agreed Hate to be the one to break this to you, but real life isn't an episode of 24

The key is go for your targets. They won't run because they have something to gain

You would infer that I didn't know about its use, prescribed methods of effectiveness. Base your intelligent response from the entirity of another's argument not from fragments that you assume and then take out of context. Also, I don't think there is a real need for a context as my statement was quite clear cut. Kind of contradictory there bud. And using big words doesn't make you seem smart.

Not crazy nut job, just uneducated Would you care to explain, instead of putting simple minded one-sentence responses, like the moron you are ? Read the links I've posted earlier in the thread. Rapport building > torture. There isn't even evidence that torture is effective

You mean when a terrorist is caught with an actual bomb around their chest, and that intelligence indicates there is a high potential that he has other accomplices ready to attack? Then I would have to agree on torture being used as a last resort to gain information. If I remember correctly some of the 'terrorist' that were caught, were actually dobbed in by disgruntled neighbours or by feuding clans. These same 'terrorist' were not tried till years later, and were tortured. That just seems wrong. Atleast find them guilty before conducting any sort of torture. Even then I would find it hard to accept the use of torture, unless there was that immediate danger. Why the hell do I even bother posting links if no one reads them? anyway, Sample text from leaflet handed out in Afghanistan by US Forces. I'm not going to bother referencing it because people here don't even click

Not crazy nut job, just uneducated

edit: stupid post, but some of you should check out this thread viewtopic.php?f=10&t=746669

How bout actually reading what I posted on rapport building? Also, no one is saying terrorists shouldn't be tried or punished, we're saying they shouldn't be tortured. So far no one has posted any empirical evidence that torture works so the entire base of the pro torture argument is null. Oh, and none of the "terrorists" have even been tried in a court. If America doesn't like this, then pull out of the middle east, AMERICA is invading THEIR country, not the other way around.

To add to that, any meme is just incredibly stupid. lolcats, rickroll, mudkipz, norris, everything

what about people who moan when they eat? How's that work? *child eating alone in room* "Ohhhhhhh... ooooohh... mmmmm..." mother: "Johnny, what the hell are you doing?!" im serious, my mom and sister both moan when they eat, its [bleep] disgusting. My friend does both when eating, it's so [bleep]ing annoying :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

Breaking news: Criminals don't think they'll get caught when they commit a crime! Surprise Surprise! Smoking kills, more at 11! This is why the death penalty is not an effective deterrent. And jails should be about rehabilitation, not warehousing individuals. Getting off topic now. Death penalty isn't as effective because it isn't as bad as torture. If I was going to go on a massacre, and knew that I will get the death penalty, then I will be pretty happy; a not too painless death. On the other hand torture is very painful, and is worse then death in my opinion. I would rather be killed then get tortured. Rehabilitation is a waste of money, if the prisoner has done a more severe crime then they should just be thrown in a ditch with little food.... I'm serious. No, if you were going on a massacre you would kill yourself at the end. And ugh about the rehab, tell you what, get out of high school, get to university, take a few criminal justice courses, then come back and post

It won't be a crime anymore, honestly some of the people here aren't thinking. Let's take weed for example, let's say they decriminalize it. Then yes, they're going to smoke weed, but it will be LEGAL, so what's the big deal?

Yeah cause all criminals are mentally unstable :roll: Would you rather have the mentally unstable sent back to the streets? He never implied that they all were. If a law is abolished then obviously it is going to be a fairly stupid one, and they wouldn't keep mentally unstable people locked up, at most they would send them to a mental institute, most likely get them help though. It's not a crime to be mentally unstable

Yeah cause all criminals are mentally unstable :roll:

what about people who moan when they eat? God damn I hate them too.

people that chew with their mouthes open/chew very loudly. I want to punch them in the face EVERY SINGLE TIME! YOU'D THINK THAT IN HOWEVER MANY YEARS OF EATING EVERYDAY YOU WOULD LEARN HOW NOT TO DO IT LIKE A PIG!

I believe that's how it actually works, if a law gets abolished or changed, then the inmates would be freed or re-sentenced. Edit: Looks like I was right http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... A9639C8B63

edit--I would say the fact the US has stopped quite a few terror plots and hasnt been attacked since 9/11 is fairly good supporting evidence, admittedly this is a bit cliched but that hardly denies the reality of it. That's not evidence. In certain cases, of course torture is going to work when you've tried nothing else. Care to tell me what attacks and plots they've prevented though and what methods they tried before torture? A lot of that is going to be classified, and to be honest I dont have the time to research every plot that has been released as somethign we stopped. Lol, wow. "Hay guyz, USA iz totally stoping terrists all the time, we just cant know about it" So, there's tons of evidence that torture doesn't work, and so far there is 0 evidence that it does work.