Oh, so what you are saying here, is that there shouldn't even be a f2p. Well let's imagine here for a bit, ok? Let's say that Jagex removed f2p entirely, and then they took away all levels, items, shortcuts, and QP that you got from F2P, would you consider that fair? You'd lose all rune, money, runes, ranged equipment, and hours of work, and random event items, but then of course, we could then justify it by saying, "you were f2p when you got it, so you don't deserve it, so we'll just take it away from you." so you couldn't wield anything you had in the bank probably, unless you became f2p at an extremely low level. You'd lose, hours, weeks, months, maybe even years of work. Then also, many people would be angry because they couldn't pk in f2p anymore. Or they can't sell members items for more profit in f2p, or they'd never see a lot of friends ever again. Now let's say that there never was a f2p, and tutorial Island was p2p. How many people do you think would be playing runescape now? A lot less I think, they won't pay for a game they've never played. And that would be a lot less money in jagex pocket. So why don't you rethink you're thoughts about f2p, then give a civil response. Omfg, this is just some half-arsed crap. He didn't say that they should get rid of F2p you idiot. He was simply saying that f2pers shouldn't get extra things when the members have to pay for their updates (Not that i completley agree with that) Maybe you should read the person's post before stating your [developmentally delayed]ed defence. Now that I've gotten that over with I can state my opinion on the topic. I agree that the lack of F2P mage armour is ridiculous but I don't particulary like the idea of releasing p2p armour to the f2pers. I do however like the idea of releasing a new mage armour for f2p and p2p, especially if it was something craft-able like suggested in one of the first few posts. But I don't think wave spells should be released to the f2pers, but I think releasing snare to them is a decent idea. Oh and btw, I think the reason these kinds of petitions have so many supporters is because of the huge population of the f2p world being filled with noobs who are simply greedy and just sign every petition suggesting more f2p stuff.