jonavolaii

Evolution has plenty of proof. Though there are unexplained parts to the idea, it is almost certain that this is how organisms evolved. I don't think that this takes away from what God did. I believe that he guided evolution to create humans. I guess that you would say I am one of those "intelligent design" people. Evolution and Christianity don't contradict. In fact, even the Pope has accepted evolution as God's way of creating life. Genesis 1 In the begginning God created the heavens and the earth If you believe God guided evolution then you also believe that God is not all powerful. This means you cannot believe the bible. and there is NO evidence for evolution. Also they changed the name of darwins book because the title alone was embarrissing for the theory It used to be 'the origin of species through natural selection' but it has been proven that natural selection works against evolution thats why 'scientists' changed the name

Fossil examinations have proven absolutely nothing, they tested a LIVE Seashell and the result was that it had been dead for 3600 years. There are 4 factors wrong with this method of carbon dating. [*:dakz62rp]How much carbon was there in the first place? After all it is handed down through mother to child, animals as well as humans eat at different rates...[*:dakz62rp]Was the substance (mostly Carbon14) added or removed? Some plants that absorb Carbon natuarally don't absorb C14, this would give them and there eaters an unnaturally old age...[*:dakz62rp]Was the speed of decay constant? This can never be proven as with the rest of them however C14 could be washed into, or out of a dead creature.[*:dakz62rp]It has never been proven that these methods of dating work. Also on your so-called proof in the layers of the earth, the earth layers age is measured by the fossils that lye in them, the age of those fossils is determined by the age of the layers they are in. This is called circular reasoning and is as you no doubt agree, not the highest form of logic. Layers can also be formed quickly as even old tests have proved. Genesis 1:3 'And God said 'let there be light' and there was light...' Genesis 1:14 'And God said 'let there be lights in the expanse of the sky...' Here we see that God created the light Before the lights If that is the case then how can you claim that the light we see 'From other galaxies' is actually from them. Furthermore if the light had to travel that distance the earth would be far older than even evolutionists claim. It wouldn't make sense if they had big days, as the bible includes sentences such as "he travelled for X days" If in fact, the days back then were big enough to account for the billions of years this earth has been around for, in this 'X days' he would have been dead in the first day. Thats true it may have another meaning, however it also states certain numbers that due to circumstances cannot have been much different, (the great flood, Jesus' life, persecution of christians in the first century which has been proved) Dinosaurs are evolutionists claimed 'trumps card', however certain reports have even reported some of these 'exctinct' animals to be alive in more remote parts of the world(peredactyls in mid-africa) also, the sudden deaths of these animals can be explained by the great flood, depleting the oxygen levels by a great amount. How many cases of sexually transmitted deseases are there in the world today? How much do you yourselves claim(most of you) that the current world population is growing to fast? I rest my case... First, you have just admitted that science cannot explain all things second, it is completely irrational to try to explain things such as miracles which's by defenition defy science, with science. Not arguing here but that has nothing to do with the bible It has never been proven that the bibles claims of Jesus as the son of God and doing miracles is false, in fact there is more proof that the bible is true than any other book in history. [*:dakz62rp]The new testament alone is more than 10 times the evidence than any antieque documents [*:dakz62rp]Proof of this: [*:dakz62rp]Homer iliad, earliest copy found 400BC, time gap between making and earliest existing copy, 400 years, 643 original manuscripts [*:dakz62rp]Herodotus history, 900AD, 1350 years, 8 copies [*:dakz62rp]Thucydides history, 900AD, 1300 years, 8 copies [*:dakz62rp]Plato, 900AD, 1300 years, 7 copies [*:dakz62rp]Demosthenes, 1100AD, 1400 years, 200 copies [*:dakz62rp]Ceasar galic wars, 900AD, 1000 years, 10 copies [*:dakz62rp]Livy history of rome, 4th century most are 10th century, 400 - 1000 years, 1 partial 19 copies [*:dakz62rp]Tacitus annals, 1100AD, 1000 years, 20 copies [*:dakz62rp]Pliny secundus Natural history, 850AD, 750 years, 7 copiesNow for the good part... [*:dakz62rp]New testament ALONE, 114AD, 50 years, 5366 copies + around 20000 non-greek copies[*:dakz62rp]One passage of the bible of today matched with the earliest manuscripts found reveal that in a passage of around 500 words there are only 4 spelling mistakes wich do not even appear in the hebrew version. In total in the entire bible there would be a maximum of 2% mistakes than since Genesis was written Also to disclaim all beliefs hat the bible is just a little book we should use for moral guide or another version of the same old religeon... [*:dakz62rp]Christianity is a religeon about God trying to reach man, ALL other religeons are man trying to reach God.[*:dakz62rp]Almost all if not all religeons claim you must be a good person to get in to heaven, valhalla whatever, however christianity claims that all men (and women) are beyond endless hope to get into heaven. That is why God sent his son, Jesus, the only way to free all mankind was to have a pure offering, not anilmal, animal was only good for 1 or 2 sins. A pure human being was needed to be sacraficed for mankind. Gods son was the only possibility.[*:dakz62rp]You claim that christians are on a 'crusade' to kill muslims, as for today, that is either really just bush trying to make peace or a desperate attempt to get oil from already depleting deposits. As for early crusades, near to none of the men that joined them were christian and the whole event was shrouded in corruption.[*:dakz62rp]The bible claims that if you do not repent or try to pretend that your fate does not await you, you shall go to hell. This seems more than enough proof to say that the bible should not be thought of as a book to recieve moral guidance from. Now for some proofs against the only other logical explanation than religeon (although I will soon prove that evolution itsself is a religeon) You want to start playing with proof of the age of the universe? Bring it on... [*:dakz62rp]The suns diameter decreases with 6 feet a day, you can see this in the constantly darker solar eclips. only 1 million years ago life on this planet would have been impossible, not even bothering to explain how venus and mercury 'emerged' from the middle of the sun.[*:dakz62rp]the magnetic field around the earth decreases at a certain rate, tenthousand years ago our planet would have had the polarity of a magnetic star, that is scientificly seen the MAXIMUM for any planet in the universe.[*:dakz62rp]Comets, with all the hazards in the solar system alone they could not exist for any longer than about 10000 years. if you would claim an oort cloud well then prove it, if you cant see it it isn't there because comets cannot travel faster than light.[*:dakz62rp]Imagine a merry-go-round, there are children on it, these big footballers spin it counter clockwise. At a certain speed the children say 'faster faster' at speed 2 they say 'wheeeeeeeee' At speed 3 they say 'slow down slow down!' at speed 4 they just hang on for dear life :D At speed 5 they all fly away from the merry-go-round and which way do they spin? counter clockwise. There are whole galaxies spinning in different directions. This makes the big bang theory implausible [*:dakz62rp]Phisically any action with a chance of 1 against (10 to the power of 40000) Is impossible. The chances that a singel enzyme would by accident come together is 1 against (10 to the power of 3000000)That should be enough proof against evolution for now. a religeon is a belief without fundament. Evolution has no proof and therefore no fundament. Information is not material, if i were to delete your harddrive it would weigh exactly the same as before. the same can be said about energy. This means that information is not a material entity. thus we do not live in a materal based world. Have I burst the buble on all of your ideas yet?

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Programmers R Us The forum for programmers, learners, wannabees and all interested in programming. The forum has plenty of space to improve and additions of other programming languages is a practical must. The main language is english however other languages are permitted(remember however that although someone happens to speak the language you use on the board, no-one is obligated to respond to). The forum has catagories for internet based languages such as PHP, HTML, and Javascript and catagories for Windows, Linux and other OS based programming languages. A full list can be found in 'Currently supported programming languages' Everyone is welcome and everyone can join now! Log in If you have registered [hide=Forum Groups]Forum Groups: AdministratorsYou may only be an administrator after a large amount of time as a moderator. Only as an administrator will you have full moderation possibilities. You can only be chosen for administrator. You cannot apply. Sub administrators Sub administrators have all the moderation bonnusses of administrators but do not have access to the administration panel. You can only be a sub administrator if you have been a moderator for a relatively long time and the architect approves it. Modertors They moderate the forum. No moderator shall be given the ability to moderate the enire forum, only parts of it. When an open place for a moderator is seen. The individual moderator groups shall not be open. You must attempt to join through the common 'Moderator' group. After that you shall be placed in or chose your moderation group. Website editors Website editors can change everthing about the forum, they can change the appearance the groups the website pages pretty much everything, however, they must post it in a special forum where the administrators will later choose whether it can be used. Programmers The programmer group is mainly for the title. However, when the forum is experiencing technical difficulties the forums administrators can call upon the programmers for help. Programmers are the only group except from the administrators that can know the coding and eventual hacks I have used on the forum.Advanced Groups Advanced groups are for persons that are quite advanced in a certain programming language, they are automatically in the programmers group. You must attempt to join the programmers group before you join the advanced group you belong to. [/hide][hide=Currently supported programming languages]Currently supported programming lanuages [*:1ccc4mrf]Web based languages[*:1ccc4mrf]Java[*:1ccc4mrf]Javascript[*:1ccc4mrf]HTML[*:1ccc4mrf]PHP [*:1ccc4mrf]Windows based programming languages [*:1ccc4mrf]C[*:1ccc4mrf]C[*:1ccc4mrf]C+[*:1ccc4mrf]C++[*:1ccc4mrf]C# [*:1ccc4mrf]J [*:1ccc4mrf]J[*:1ccc4mrf]J+[*:1ccc4mrf]J++[*:1ccc4mrf]J# [*:1ccc4mrf]Linux based programming languages [*:1ccc4mrf]None yet Please post here to suggest a new programming language.[/hide][hide=Our Staff]Our staff Note: To private message you must be registered on our forum. Administrators[*:1ccc4mrf]Architect[*:1ccc4mrf]... Sub administrators [*:1ccc4mrf]... Moderators [*:1ccc4mrf]... [/hide][hide=Credits]Credits Forumotion for allowing free use of their servers and harddrive space, http://grsites.com for aiding in the logo, who is online image, and buttons for the entire forum, San dream for his script maker which has opened new doors combined with CSS The users of Technical forums for keeping the forum alive, hopefully healing it from inside (see Forum groups), and giving me an oppertunity to sharpen up my graphics and programming skills[/hide] The forum shall be COMPLETELY free, just being on it gives us valuable points that make us rise in the ranks and gain even more users. New users are needed and asked for. The forum is also used as a help center for programmers and can be used as a tutorial center. The forum can be found at http://codes.eletronicsboard.com/ Note: I do not want spam or flame on this topic, If you wish to spam or flame do it somewhere else (Not on my forum either)

they're hard to read because the server i hosted them on is low quality. anyway, I didn't spend much time trimming them to the right size and positioning. And the top one is my logo, I made it so that the user actually has to look at it :)

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that was... well lol?

runescape when I first realised how many yews I would need to cut before i would get lvl 99 :shock:

I think they made it like that... Like, morphing from a frog to a princess... Would you really expect no shapeshifting to occur?

Its a good idea but... F2P players will find it a waste with only 1 or 2 items per tag. If this went combined with more F2P bank space, it would be the best runescape update they have had yet. Question... If you lock an item, will it count as one bank space less with 0 stored, or will it not count as a space until something has been put into it?

I find it extremely annoying that F2P players cannot suggest anything. The least Jagex could do is make the suggest box we all have to use contain more than 400 chars. F2P makes up the bulk of the runescaping community and has compared to P2P as we can see on these forums some very good ideas. Jagex and the players P2P and F2P are all missing out. Its a lose, lose, go-down-screaming situation. The ability to suggest would help a lot of the other problems go away (wich we cannot suggest because my suggestion hasn't been handeld) F2P should have the ability to post in the suggestion section of the runescape forums or have a suggestion box with more than 400 characters which is not enough to write any full message. I know I have just posted a suggestion on suggesting suggesting for F2P players but P2P players will benefit from this as well so could some nice P2P players please suggest this in the forum we're trying to get acces to? What do you think?

Yes dammit we need more bankspace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My bankspace is running out and I havent even gotten half of the stuff from random events, I just got my first mime and what does it give me? No emotes just less friggin bank space!!! Even while wearing my full suit I havent added any space to my bank while I'm aiming for trimmed and I wont even have enough room for all the event stuff when it comes!!!!!!!!! Sorry for swearing...

I know it is supposedly safer to log out rather than to close the window but is it? Has anyone lost an account due to normal closing? Even a feather? I was having a bad case of lag and while reporting a scammer an evil chicken appeared! I coulden't run away because the game lagged to much. So I closed the window! No downsides other than I had to log in again, runescape made me wait the 30 seconds to log in, all my stuff was there, everything was normal! I'm beginning to think that Jagex says its dangerous to just close the window because you can easily get away from a quick death! Imagine it... log out of a fight if you're losing, pk for eternity, never take any food!!! (ok so thats over-the-top) But you get the idea. If you could just do that everyone would cheat and no-one would be a fair player! It only tells you to log out because its the only way you would ever die! ('cause you cant during combat) Has anyone aver had a problem after closing the window? If not, were invincable!!!(if we're fast enough)

I find The WAY-OVER-THE-TOP eccessive giving of new stuff to P2P just a way for the rich little %!&@ to get more fun than usual. F2P should get some updates even if its only once every 2 months, a little bonus is all i'm asking. Members get all the fun while they are forgetting that the majority of players are F2P. Don't we deserve something to? I say give us the skill capes!!! We do more work in a more boring enviroment for less fun while the rich little %!&@ get everything easy. Come on we cant even post in the suggestions forum!!! 1 or two updates a year is all we ask, please, let us have the skill capes :pray:

you speak my mind, at least it was 2 years ago when I quit. I only came back at christmas for the event and finally started again after I knew it was the only MMORPG that worked on my pc :D

How the heck did you get you Att + Def so HIGH !!!!? How long would it take someone to get to that from 46/46/46 if he trained 2/3 hours a day?

the problem was, If I left the talking to later he would have killed me by removing the last piece of life I had after the fight. The problem with random events that attack you if you don't talk is that if you're busy (especially fighting) their a nuissance. I think they should remove these random events from the wild (or at a certain level) I'm not gonna make a poll because it'll take to long so just post whether you agree to which ones and when :roll: Attacks you... [*:2vamcf6r]Security Gaurd [*:2vamcf6r]Sandwich lady [*:2vamcf6r]Evil Chicken [*:2vamcf6r]Drunken Dwarf [*:2vamcf6r]Lost Pirate [*:2vamcf6r]Hywayman [*:2vamcf6r]Swarm [*:2vamcf6r]Evil Bob Teleports you... [*:2vamcf6r]Old man (wanting to tallk and teleporting you away) [*:2vamcf6r]Drill Demon [*:2vamcf6r]Freaky Forester [*:2vamcf6r]Frogs [*:2vamcf6r]Genie (can teleport you) [*:2vamcf6r]Mime [*:2vamcf6r]Quiz Master [*:2vamcf6r]Evil Twin [*:2vamcf6r]Grave digger [*:2vamcf6r]Candle light [*:2vamcf6r]Prison Pete As you can see almost all random events would have to be shut off in the wild and mabey they could still be valid if they're only in level 3 etc.? Opinions?

I was PKing quite near the 'ditch of stupidity' and a &!#@ security gaurd appeared out of nowhere! I already had finished the stronghold of security. This security gaurd got me killed while I was stuck trying to stop talking to him! I had to talk to him while taking hits from someone lower level than me, and this gave him a big enough advantage to do some real damage! I would have won and had a nice new suit of armour but instead I lost a couple of pies. Not such a great loss but imagine if that had happend while wearing full rune? I think they should disable inconveniences like this and the drunken dwarf in the wild.