Naraku893

So I dont need really high mage bonus

06 was the best year.

I would much rather have old school with a decent economy than today with today's economy.

What happened?

30-35% maybe. Its no doubt better than saradomin sword

Maybe if it would be too much of an impact on regular rs maybe make a complete separate server. Like so you couldn't take anything from oldschool to newschool

Old-school is the best school.

If your in the wilderness don't whine about getting attacked. If you are skilling in the wilderness you are taking that risk. And if all you remember is people attacking skillers you didn't pk.

That has nothing to do with this thread.

Tbh this whole forum seems more like a skiller and questing community. That's why the old wild gets negative feedback here.

They may have experienced it but that still doesnt mean they were pkers

What Justin said sums up my thoughts. I see no point in changing it because part of the update will only cater for a minority of players anyway. Updates to Runescape should be for the benefit of all, not just a minority. I think these two posts rather show the stupidity of the counterargument. Yes, free trade was removed for a reason, but you really should know what the reason was. Needless to say, the same reasoning, for different reasons, doesn't apply anymore. Thus, logically, being an ineffective method in not achieving what it was supposed to achieve(in the long term) AND losing jagex a big load of customers(of which jagex has never recovered), it is only logical to bring back free trade. Another counterargument is the fact that alot of newschoolers come on the forums to complain about junk trading and calling merchants scammers, which really shows how little they know. Catering to the minorities? The whole removal of free trade was catering for minorities. Bringing it back would be very popular among everyone who experienced it. Most of the people against it are people that never experienced it thus should not even argue. A big part of why the economy is messed up is because of the wilderness system, mostly replacing items with gold(statues). That's what I've been saying about people who hate the wilderness. People who don't want old-style wilderness never experienced it. Either that or they weren't pkers. If they werent pkers they have no business giving their input on it. People who hate free trade either didnt experience it or got scammed constantly.

What Justin said sums up my thoughts. I see no point in changing it because part of the update will only cater for a minority of players anyway. Updates to Runescape should be for the benefit of all, not just a minority. I think these two posts rather show the stupidity of the counterargument. Yes, free trade was removed for a reason, but you really should know what the reason was. Needless to say, the same reasoning, for different reasons, doesn't apply anymore. Thus, logically, being an ineffective method in not achieving what it was supposed to achieve(in the long term) AND losing jagex a big load of customers(of which jagex has never recovered), it is only logical to bring back free trade. Another counterargument is the fact that alot of newschoolers come on the forums to complain about junk trading and calling merchants scammers, which really shows how little they know. Catering to the minorities? The whole removal of free trade was catering for minorities. Bringing it back would be very popular among everyone who experienced it. Most of the people against it are people that never experienced it thus should not even argue. A big part of why the economy is messed up is because of the wilderness system, mostly replacing items with gold(statues). That's what I've been saying about people who hate the wilderness. People who don't want old-style wilderness never experienced it. Either that or they weren't pkers. If they werent piers they have no business giving their input on it. People who hate free trade either didnt experience it or got scammed constantly.

But you are OK with the way the rare item economy works? Or the fact that pking(the main thing in scape until 07) is dead? Not to mention that jagex can still trace and ban people purposely giving away cash(like they did back when free trade was allowed). Another thing that alot of high level players miss is the thrill of staking, which would also be a major boost. I've never cared much for the rare economy, same thing with pking (it was never the "main thing", even though it was more popular back then). As for tracing very unbalanced trades, I don't believe Jagex has that ability. I had friends who made nice money when they quit selling their cash without punishment. Actually jagex can trace trades. They can do about anything. But tracing everyone would be difficult.

Now jagex is like Kim Jong Il.

Tried it - hated it - if they reintroduce it I'll never go to the effin wilderness again. :ohnoes: As long as you tried it. Better than people never pking and hating.

I think one of the main reasons people don't want the old-style wilderness to return is because, well frankly, they didn't experience it. It's easy to say things like, "The old wilderness was obsolete", or, "Times have changed, grow up kid." If you ask the old famous pkers (Yankin Deez, Frostydapker, Mezmorize420) they will say old wilderness was better. People can hate on it all they want, but they probably haven't went out to world 18 and pked at magebank, portals, or hills. Same goes for the duel arena. They can hate, but odds are they didn't get the full experience of staking. As goes for free trade, people hate because idiots get scammed or hacked. RWT? Not everyone did it. Actually, only a select few did it. Everyone makes it seems like hundreds of thousands did it. Tl;dr: Don't knock it till you try it. If you haven't tried it, you have no business giving your personal opinion. If you have actually pked and gotten full experience out of the wild and think this ones better, then your opinion will be valued.

I find it hilarious that people are still whining about this entire subject, to the point that they have to fabricate false rumours about it on a message forum. Give it up already children. The old Wildy is gone. Free Trade is gone. Evolve or die. :rolleyes: I want proof of where anyone was whining on this thread recently. PLUS- when did you get the right to call other people children?

I know, a friend of mine was hacked a few weeks ago. His cash was still there, yellow was gone. (which I believe is going for 400-500 on some sites) Free trade would make this kind of stuff worse imo. His whole bank would have been gone. (and the scammer would have made maybe 1000 with hacking his account) More incentive -> more hacking attempts That wouldn't be much of a problem if people did virus scans, had bank pins, only logged onto trusted computers, and if Jagex ever released that number generator they have been talking about.

[Fact] A lot of people make all pkers out to be rwters and rule breakers. [/Fact]

Thats sweet. Hopefully if jagex decides to do something like this there wont be that big of a problem about stuff like that lol :thumbsup:

But you are OK with the way the rare item economy works? Or the fact that pking(the main thing in scape until 07) is dead? Not to mention that jagex can still trace and ban people purposely giving away cash(like they did back when free trade was allowed). Another thing that alot of high level players miss is the thrill of staking, which would also be a major boost. I know 5 people off the top of my head that would return if staking was brought back. If looked at through a business point of view, it could turn out great for Jagex because I imagine a lot of people would return even if just free trade was re-implemented.

Exactly. Also gets annoying when people say "not gonna happen" without reading anything to sound smart or act cool.

The situation is sparking more and more interest on more forums now.

This thread is gaining popularity, as it has been posted and is being discussed now on another forum. edit: I've been asking around on the cc and people said all he did was come in, ask a bunch of questions, they said he was giving it some thought. people said it seemed he was thinking hard about it.