jesus christ is right, were working are donkeys off trying to make the gallery big again and you two start going at it :lol: some community that is. im half kidding dont drag me into this btw :roll: shiny i seem to remember all three of us being just as nooby when we first started at the gallery, its natural for us to like nice guy critisicm over not so nice guy. anyways on topic, the pics, are what are considered more of a snapshot then actual photography, dont worry its easy to fix, theres a good guide around here about what makes a photo "photography" check the database of guides in the sticky.