Inuashakent

But you are discounting the experience gained when you burst rock lobsters over kill waterfiends and how much time that experience would take to get. Here compfreak847 has reasoned that bursting costs 191k per hour more than waterfiends. Also, he assumed that you get 200 crimsons/hour bursting, for a 100 crimsons/hour difference. So crimsons would be worth roughly 2k each. You are aware we worked on that number together right? Me and compfreak? Anyways, I just put them as equally efficient for convinience's sake, and to top it off you must remember that 100 to 200 ratio is completely off. Completely unessisary pictures.

You didn't notice I was only using b moves and grabs? :lol:

I'll do the math in a sec. If we value bursting and Waterfiends equally efficient (The two most used methods, and after much calculation you get 3.15x worth of xp at Rock lobsters (xp's worth, ect) at a hefty price. 100 charms/hour at Waterfiends, 150 at Rock lobsters. The cost is about 700k/hour at Rock lobsters. So 50 crimsons should equal 700k. I would say 14k/crimson. It may seem like alot, but do you know that summoning WITHOUT counting charms only costs 75m? And with bursting it costs an extra 170m? And if we say that you can just BUY the charms, it should be that expensive.

You like buyable skills too much... can't really argue with that. :thumbsup: anyhOOOwww.... golds would be pretty useless. maybe around 50 ea. greens are needed to make useful summons so around 400 ea. crimsons are the dominant charms needed to get fast exp. i have to go with atleast 3k ea. blues summons expensive monsters and their good exp so around 5k ea since the ingredients are usually expensive too. Why would gold charms be useless? You can't forget the only reason why they are useless is because the time taken to collect them doesn't add up to it's worth. However, if you could buy them I see them at an extremely high price, at least 1k ea.

You like buyable skills too much...

Not neccisary true. Did you count in that you get about 50kxp/hour compared to 70-100k/hour from regular training? Does it make sence to say that your only collecting charms while your obtaining melee xp?

It costs much more. Crimson charms costs up to 4000 each from BURSTING, so I would assume more around 7,000 mark. Same with the other charms, increase them. i agree with this. if the charms were ever to go on ge, i think this would be a more reasonable estimate of their value.. I highly disagree with this.

13,500+ Kills :mrgreen: Hopefully it gets you closer to your goal of 200,000 kills. Hopefully? Lol, it basically got me an extra few weeks.

Denny, you might not notice it but you spam. The most out of most here... Thats why I'm picking pika, falco, pika to spam you right back. :lol: Not just by projectiles though, you follow the same pattern. Try not to, mindgaming is the most important part of smash.

Confidence boost \ Apparently the player I owned before is known to be one of the best players in all of Gamefaqs... :lol:

And I would be between Champ and h4x0r. Noob? http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/v ... =true&cc=0

It's a much more simple problem. Brine rats suck.

Even at 99 flat I wouldn't reccomend it. Actually, it isn't so bad with a pony. (Praying Piety of course). Still wouldn't reccomend it. Ponies costs alot of money. Do they? I was always worried about that...am I right in assuming that they're a good deal cheaper than the healing titans because they use green as opposed to blue charms? Yes, but 1k/ spec for 42 hp isn't very favorable. And if you use guthans... you fail, it's way too slow.

Umm.. it is mentioned in the KB. I havn't tested which is better to be honest. Just been busy. And for the meat, isn't raw meat on there? I'll fix that...

Even at 99 flat I wouldn't reccomend it. Actually, it isn't so bad with a pony. (Praying Piety of course). Still wouldn't reccomend it. Ponies costs alot of money.

Denny, I'm going to play an IRL friend. He's pretty good, and I promised to play him from a while ago. Your really good, especially with wolf. I had to use you as a test dummy for practicing, sorry.

Even at 99 flat I wouldn't reccomend it.

It's still better than slayer although you'll need pray melee +5- life + piety.

Time for you to get pwneD! Going on now.

Umm... Familiars add invisible bonus, so you can't hunt imps +5 or +7 levels early. It just means you can hunt things faster or more accurately, thus the "invisible." Pots do allow you to catch them early though.

Leet.

is u da mufin men?

Well... half true. The jump escape isn't your opponents skill, or luck. If your attacking him while he's in grab (pressing a) and he is released, then he is sliding. If your not, he jumps up. Marth can abuse this, especially with his fast attacks. You can unban it if you want. Not like I pick Marth anyways. DK/snake

I wanna 1v1.

We aren't "behind." We don't even follow them. We pick up the rules that we think should be banned, it's like a mini community. For example, Ness/Lucas grab release isn't banned in MG... IC is only allowed up to 3 chaingrabs (In texas, but w/e) ect, ect. We don't like to be too formal or uptight. Nobody here can preform IDC long term, nor do we play with timed stock when we play casually. Doesn't really affect us, but yeah, I don't know why it's not banned yet. (Caxis is lazy. ;) ) Macmaster, new "technique"? Can't wait to see it. :lol: Gallade, Mario's fludd isn't useless. It's one of his hardest to use, most versitile move. Defensive, edgeguard, space, ect. I can post up a vid of somebody using it well later, but I don't find it neccisary.