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Very impressive ending. LND #1 matched opts team?

lol. Congrats AA, never heard of OAC before. So, im guessing you teamed with VR in the cluster?

Gf, was a clean war. I think we did alright considering the levels and having only a 30 slot ts for 50 man pull :o Finally upgraded though, expect an rm soon.

Round 1 and already we are getting rule breaks. After looking at some of the vids, i think Exo has their case clear. Nicely done Exo.

Yes, come in #legendz asap. Or give me your cc name.

Whining^ when you know your clan can't compete. Considering we completely destroyed your little allies when we warred, I'd beg to differ. Also if you think you're so good why don't you hit us and 2m up in a 2v2 with LGZ. We'll see who can compete then. I think there's a flaw when a stronger clan gets one of the weaker clans to fight, and then the stronger clan send members to join the weak clan so it's basically 30-10 rather than 20-20. But don't worry Legacy and Envy are completely aware of the situation, and will be taking pictures of your starting opts before you fight to make sure it's directly 20-20. Nice try Coll. You can come take all the screens you want, LGZ and Coll made an agreement that is completely outside of TICT bounds but simply because it occured when TICT begun shortsighted trolls like you think we did it just for TICT. Rest assured during 2v2 any members of Coll will remain in Coll's 20 and the same thing goes to LGZ, infact when we get date/rules set we will bring this up, if you'd like i can call you in so you can feel proud of yourself for a few seconds. I won't go into details, the agreement was made in an effort to offer more to LGZ and Coll members. Something you wouldn't understand because your too busy pissin your pants about how other clans outperform yours. On topic, going back to the redraw was a good move- i think you will find much less commotion about the drawings now.

Sounds good, we will see in acouple months if it was for the tourney or not. Now stay on topic, if you'd like to discuss any LGZ stuff i'd be glad to, query me on IRC. I know beckingham won't cause e-rep is the only reason he posts. And lady_ninane, from my understanding by equal 'clan distribution' you mean equally matched/teamed based on numbers/cb average. Then i still don't see how, if 2v2 were truly decided with average combat and numbers into account, there are are still match ups and teams that are much stronger than others (eg. CE + NBK). Also, i still think there is a chance regarding my argument about teams being weakened. I found it funny that when i just switched to IRC to see this... <Dandaman619> o found it <Dandaman619> thanks joe <@QuikdrawJoe> you're welcome :P <Dandaman619> ouch exo+tpr vs downfall and some1 else v.v <Dandaman619> gunna hurt our pull :\ * IMB ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout) * %absuseless ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: ) Also, do take into account that teams nowadays spring up very often. Henceforth they may not be taken so seriously as a clan is. An example of this is Team North America's sudden withdrawal from 2v2. Separating teams from clans would be more appropriate. But i suppose you are right in terms of logistics, it would be tough to start over. I hope it will be taken into account in future tournaments though.

The flaw is not only in 2v2. It could happen for the other categories, of course that has a much less chance of happening but the fact is- if it does happen say in the 50v50 category, where every member counts. So lets say Divine Forces v Clan Europe. Some of CE's members maybe in DF, this means CE because they are a team will lose members to DF. This means matching solely based on memberlist avg/#s is flawed. And don't overlook that there will be other rounds, and there is a good chance a team will face a clan that could cripple their expected numbers/performance. And beckingham, you mad?

Not to add additional stress to TICT organizers but after today's redraw i realized a flaw that should be addressed. The flaw is teams. By allowing teams to take part just as a clan would, contending with each other, you will be allowing inaccuracy in match results and eventually in competition results. Lets take an example of the draw: The Titans + Blacknights v Knights of Order + Legends Never Die So you got 2 clans v a clan & a team. I see 2 issues here: A Weakened Team / Bluffed Memberlist What happens in the circumstance of a team being composed of a clan that they are facing. Eg. what happens if majority of LND is made up of TT members. So, instinctively you'd expect them all to flock to TT's side. Which leaves LND weak. Which renders the system of matching and teaming draws solely on memberlist #/cb avg flawed. Because you can look at a team's memberlist and be like 'O it has a whole lot of members and a high cb', then again that memberlist is inaccurate in the previously mentioned circumstance where majority of the team's members will be gone do to their own clan's war. You might argue, 'well of course LND is not made up of TT.' That was an example genius. It could be that LND's attending members to that war be from TT/BK/KO, etc. A Threat to Clans Using the same 2 clan v 1 clan and team example. What happens when LND has members of a rival clan to KO's? Do you really expect those LND members to show up and aid KO in their fight whilst their home base clan has a rivalry with KO? The answer is no. Which means KO + LND will be a weak contender against TT + BK and this is again due to basing matches and teams on memberlist #/cb avg. The solution? Make 2 separate competitions. One solely for clans. One solely for teams. Not only does it weaken a team but it also poses a threat to clans (as stated above).

Cool story. So now, if another team drops out, we should expect another redraw lol? :edit: Not cool. We had everything set up and perfect with our allies and now a redraw? What if i told you we had our 2v2 war tomorrow, what would of been done?

Sounds good.

Welcome back TR. Very nice intro. Hope you plan on staying for long this time, #legendz for wars.

UNEXPECTED. Congrats on a well fought war Exo, well deserved it seems.

Our performance was pretty good given the fact that it was p v ko+not+exo+mma.

Nicely done guys. Was out of town.

Exodus is probably the most recent clan to take this 'strategy' to a whole new level...

I'll be remembered because i posted what i should be remembered as in this how will you remember me topic.

Hmmm.. LND #1 Matched Opts Team? And btw, you can't read any of the text cause its white and i use the sexy CleanCut skin which is white bg.

You may have too much on your hands being in Poison and Legendz after all. :rolleyes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf63okUy7vs' (sorry clean version got downed).

Seen you guys post on RSC, welcome aboard!

Eternity either made a mistake or is desperate for attention. But i believe it was 18-18, and not 18-35. I'm pretty sure E would get wrecked if it was the latter.

o.O Did he go further or?

'1-800-L 2 PK' Lol. Congrats on the win LTH!

Not the cleanest fight. Though we were down 1 ranger, i think we did decently. Was North Attacks yet you piled me right when we got there. Rematch for sure, with a snipe cap lol, at one point it looked like you were mass sniping. Close war though, i love how we it went from 10-8 for you guys to 6-6.