Levon_

No, they will. Sorceress garden bots. Only reason they will rise is bonus xp weekends. Not till September. If you wanted, you could get to 79 now. But make sure you train from 79 onwards with untradables. EDIT: If you wanted you could make your own unf snap potions, you get 11.111...1% of the potions free that way, and its a relatively decent money maker anyways.

First priority should be finishing off rapier :P i remember you've been asking about that stuff and level order and stuff not too long ago Get scroll of cleansing and scroll of life first if you havent farm herbs while getting rapier, make them into unf. snaps are great for money by the time you get your rapier you should be able to get to 85 using my method

I'd actually like to test it more. I'm inclined to say that maul has more staying power than rapier + def, but rapier + def is faster kills. agreed, that means rapier + def > maul for duos. ss is not needed because you can survive purely off unis in duos however cls/rapier with a shield would be more staying power than maul for pure solo. ss flashing 2/3 hits or however it works, not quite sure on that

finish off rapier do herb runs as much as possible while getting rapier sell everything except for slayer helm (focus and hex can go) get 85 my method

rapier and defender is better pure dps but i agreed with what you say

Yes but after 79 it is inefficient to train with tradable potions. You will want the non tradables eventually and its better to not waste experience making tradables

horrible advice. 84 unlocks spec restores, super antifires, extreme attacks and extreme strengths. just plain bad advice. waiting till 92 serves no purpose at all

31m won't quite get you there. However i suggest doing whatever potion to 79 spec restores to 80/81/82 super antifires to 83 extreme attacks to 84 extreme strengths to 85 Get your rapier first :P then make some money for this. Extremely worth it

Thanks :) Good luck

Please do so. Are you saying even at current prayer potion prices, piety is not worth using? I don't use it. But can do it however you please, but it seems silly to me to have to go out of your way to make money just to do slayer which for most people is a fun skill that makes money. Nah, I'm giving he my usual horrible advice: Have fun while playing runescape it's not a job. :rolleyes: This. Is efficiency trolling. Purposely posting bad advice. This should be bannable. Hi Levon, I got an olive branch for you. Thank you for reposting one of my recent trips into help and advice. Despite this being reposted out of context and lacking the original post, you can see what makes me proud. I was curteous and helpful. I even offered a bit of humor to I_troll_Gol. Afterall, do you know how many people got 99 slayer with just a whip, black mask/slayer helm, and super pots? Alot, since overloads, choatic weapons, and all that jazz only came out in the last couple of years. Please, oh mighty moderator. Save the H&A before its too late.

rapier + defender > maul In duos maul is better when 2 claw specs are used, that way graar usually dies after 1 maul hit each

Get the boost, log out. Login, make 14 potions, enter pin, bank all, withdraw 14 of each, make 14 potions, log Login, enter pin, bank all, withdraw 14 of each, make 14 potions, bank all, withdraw 14 of each, log repeat that process. Or just login, make 14, enter pin, bank all, withdraw 14 of each, log first one is better tho @obt, bankpin only slows down by 5 seconds and my method works fine with it

So with my stats i can make 1.4m+ an hour? should i use pak yak? Easily. You could do 2m an hour once you get the hang of it. Just follow my guide and bring yak scrolls. You should fill up yak and inventory in about 9 minutes, bank drops when you can. You should get about 54 kills with a perfect method, so 50 once you get used to it. 54 kills is about 432k gp. Thats per about 9 minute trip, about 10 minutes after banking. 60 minutes in an hour = 6 trips per hour = about 300 kills per hour = 2.4m gp per hour. Probably 2.5m is possible with absolute perfection.

Spectral is better at all GWD bosses. If you plan on killing 500 each you will definitely make the money to buy a DFS + waaay more. Get the spectral now, buy DFS when you start DKS. Or just sell spec back, buy dfs when you need it, sell dfs, buy spec, etc etc etc. Simple really

spec restore to 80 or 81 or 82 super antifire to 84 EDIT: also stop being lazy, sick of lazy people in h&a who can't find simple prices and xp values and do simple math. Gp/xp is extremely easy to calculate.

Use veracs helm. The added defence helps much more than the strength bonus in solo. Bring a ring of wealth. Zamorak arrows. Bandos book for protection on kc, bank it with yak after. Defender for after steelwill is dead and anticrash, i recommend praying mage on steel and soulsplitting the rest. Soul wars cape instead of firecape. The 10 prayer saves you more restores than the strength attack and defence of firecape saves you time and brews B2B tabs only work on bones up to and including big bones. With my stats, tort, piety, overloads, no B2B, forgetting claws I got 13 kills in one trip. You could easily double that.

http://forum.tip.it/topic/291897-wip-pro-guide-to-green-dragons-24mhr/ Op, what I've finished so far in this guide is perfect for your stats. Over 1.8m/hr guaranteed

=1.44 mil from bones alone (6 k ea) Have you done any math/testing to see if its better money to only pick up the bones? You would just need to know how much time you spend banking/actually killing etc. Hides bringing in 480 k an hour and bones bringing in 1440 k an hour you would need to add another 80 kills/hr to match the profits. I would imagine its ~ 2 min of killing to ~ 3 min of banking so double that for picking bones up only and you're looking at 7 min trips of 40 dragons each for 60 min or ~342 dragon bones which at 6 k each =2052 k in bones All that is moot if your times for banking/killing are significantly different than my estimates. Edit Make sure you farm your herbs every 1.5 hours. If you have a scroll of cleansing make them into unf pots for more profit (~55 k more profit per run with snapdragons). Obviously don't make torstols into unf pots :P banking takes 30 seconds. bank 12 times. 6 minutes. 80 kills in 6 minutes = no. picking up hides is better. also when not picking up bones you need to take 2 doses of p pot and you have to redrink antfire and x pots 3/4 through the trip. wastes antifire significantly. tl;dr taking hides is better @keeb, use a whip. green drags defence is so low that the difference between stab and slash defence makes next to no difference

This is exactly what i think. thanks for wording it out :P

that's fine, I like your posts, and all the replies that come with them. It makes it more fun usually :P :thumbup: oh okay thanks lol, i wasn't sure if you were hating on me or what :P

i said piety. not cannonballs. and you do make more money than without. waaaay more kills at the cost of 45k/hr MAXIMUM 25% more kills makes up for a 45k loss always.

Are you saying even at current prayer potion prices, piety is not worth using? I don't use it. But can do it however you please, but it seems silly to me to have to go out of your way to make money just to do slayer which for most people is a fun skill that makes money. Nah, I'm giving he my usual horrible advice: Have fun while playing runescape it's not a job. :rolleyes: This. Is efficiency trolling. Purposely posting bad advice. This should be bannable. Hi Levon, I got an olive branch for you. Thank you for reposting one of my recent trips into help and advice. Despite this being reposted out of context and lacking the original post, you can see what makes me proud. I was curteous and helpful. I even offered a bit of humor to I_troll_Gol. Afterall, do you know how many people got 99 slayer with just a whip, black mask/slayer helm, and super pots? Alot, since overloads, choatic weapons, and all that jazz only came out in the last couple of years. You WERE NOT being curteous and helpful. Posting HORRIBLE advice is not curteous nor is it helpful. In any way. Okay here's the context. Op asked what to buy for slayer. you SAID not to poor your money into prayer for slayer because slayer makes you money when done properly. Slayer MAKES MONEY with piety. in fact it makes more.

Are you saying even at current prayer potion prices, piety is not worth using? I don't use it. But can do it however you please, but it seems silly to me to have to go out of your way to make money just to do slayer which for most people is a fun skill that makes money. Nah, I'm giving he my usual horrible advice: Have fun while playing runescape it's not a job. :rolleyes: This. Is efficiency trolling. Purposely posting bad advice. This should be bannable. This is just trolling. Trolling other people because they don't like whips. And personal attacks, which were edited out by mods. This should be bannable. EDIT: @TheAncient, but you can also be efficient without being elitist. Why not try that? But you see. I was not trolling. I had no intention of actually making someone mad. disregard good advice because the giver is a douche THAT MAKES YOU A BETTER PERSON Also this makes me lol everytime

Are you saying even at current prayer potion prices, piety is not worth using? I don't use it. But can do it however you please, but it seems silly to me to have to go out of your way to make money just to do slayer which for most people is a fun skill that makes money. Nah, I'm giving he my usual horrible advice: Have fun while playing runescape it's not a job. :rolleyes: This. Is efficiency trolling. Purposely posting bad advice. This should be bannable.

i think its a conspiricy and jagex removed them completely