the 2nd article, i have to say, was one of the best i've read in a long time... it really sums up the trade limit... you have to ask yourself... what would you rather? being able to trade what you like to your friends when you like and have some gold farmers sat by the yews or not have either? Of course, there is always the flipside to this, you have to commend jagex for finally taking serious action against the gold farmers after months of banning... im kind of torn at the minute as to what i think :-#