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I find it quite sickening how he assumes that people play old school RS because of the dated graphics...

I guess it couldve been one of the things they looked into if they got 500k or 750k votes. I guess it would take quite a bit of money/ effort to enforce, which is probably why it isnt going to happen.

I remember attending 1. it was totally epic! all us tip iters just swarming everyone!

I'd laugh if someone gets 99 con before POH's come out =D

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You'd play it. But won't vote for it...Okay.

Umm... phats still exist in the current live game. In fact, the contradiction in your argument is that we don't even know whether phats will exist, or how they'll be distributed, in 2007scape. If you care about rares, don't go for 2007scape right now until further confirmation has been released. As far as credibility is concerned, I'll redirect you to LCoolL's post. If you want personal credibility, getting 99 woodcutting on RuneScape ain't the way to do it, regardless of whether you do it on willows or ivies, as evidenced by the generally unsympathetic response you've experienced on a very pro-RuneScape forum. As others have said, there is nothing inherently more difficult about having to do more of Action X in 2007 than you do of Action Y now in 2013. It just means you waited longer. I fail to see the value of a game where the true measure between players is how much of the same repetitive chore they could tolerate before they reached breaking point. I will go further and extend this to your criticism of EoC. What exactly is the problem in having to use abilities in a tactical order to maximise your combat performance, compared to 2007 where you clicked a monster, sipped a few pots every now and then, and for the most part waited in pure tedium while random numbers flashed up on a screen? Furthermore, if you really find it that much of a problem, what's wrong with just turning on Momentum? It's basically the same thing, with a slight damage boost. I used partyhats as an example of a way people show off something they worked hard for or that is hard to obtain. I already know they may not be in the 2007 scape. I used 99 woodcutting as an example of how skills have become easier to attain a higher level. I used that as an example because I know of the ivy update; and its xp rate/difficulty compaired to earlier methods. Not because I specifically think 99 woodcutting is especially hard to attain! I have not said anything about the state of the new combat system. So why are you lecturing me about it personally. Saying I have problems with it...? Edit: Speaking of combat systems; do you think this game currently has the best combat system out of every MMO?

How is someones oppinion on how credible something is; wrong? It isn't wrong to achieve something that takes a long time in order to show off. Why do you think people go around with phats and other rares? Because they're hard to attain and shows they have lots of wealth. Yes there are some who use them just to store wealth. The same thing could be said about highscores. It's used to either show that user personally where they are compaired with other players. Or to show off their achievements to others. I do agree that doing something for personal satisfaction isn't as bad when it becomes easier. But people play the game for many different reasons. I played the game because items where hard to attain. Because skills where hard to level. This means if you lost items on death it would be a bigger deal. The game was much more of a risk. That made it thrilling/satisfying when doing something dagerous like boss killing or pking. Edit: Like if you go out pking with full rune. You die; currently all you have to do is buy another set on the G.E. But you used to have to go and either make some more yourself. Or try and trade someone. The ammount of effort in re-attaining those items; made you try really hard not to loose them. Causing a greater sense of risk than there is currently. You also couldn't just run back to your grave and pick up said items.

Who said I openly bragged about my 99's? They where my personal goals and achievements. Why do you think people like Zezima reached maxed skills first? What if it was to brag? It was a credible achievement. Which is now has been subtracted by how easy skills are to gain xp now. You should keep your assumptions to yourself. Also saying how I type detracts from my argument is just off topic. Edit: How is a way of playing runescape wrong? You're saying by trying to achieve something thats hard in the game is wrong?

Just purchased members so I could vote! (Played from RSC till 2011). Once again high lvl skills will have credability! Once again will we have propper pking. (My oppinion). People say they don't want to loose their current progress. But I already have lost my progress: My lvls are worth hardly anything. I spent years getting lvl 99's. But now people get them easily. They lost all their credability. (Eg: I got 99 wc from yews and willows; now people can just afk a fking vine wall for more xp/h)? Why do people like EOC? The whole point of runescape was that you had to earn everything for yourself. Not be spoon-fed [bleep] xp. I think it's supposed to be a game where you have to work hard to achieve something. Spinning a purchasable wheel for xp and gold? WTF is that?!

The main reason why jagex made the grand exchange wasn't to make trading easier. It was because trade limits where implemented. In an attempt to stop RWT.

I think having a spectral is still better for castle wars in my oppinion. As you take much less damage if you're not standing still. (frozen). I could even go as far to say you'd take less damage with a spectral than a divine. Even when not capturing, as one of the team members getting frozen can often mean loosing the match.

If you're saying that the cls is the best with profound you'd be wrong. As the rapier is better...

Umm, it was a vid of two guys with turm + overload. They both had cr, cls and cm. They killed bandos with each one for quite afew kills (10-20 I'm guessing). They then came to the conclusion that using a rapier killed bandos the fastest.

By the way, there's a vid' on youtube that shows rapier has a better dps than cls at bandos.

That's my point, you end up using CR for everything, so CLS is hardly used at all. And in all honesty, it's great that you melee Zilyana with CLS, but wouldn't it be better to CM maul her, or even use veracs? Veracs may be accurate when it's special is activated. But other than that...meh. CLS's accuracy applys to it all the time. Not to mention it has way more strength than a v flail. And I wouldn't know what the CM's dps is like on sara; as I don't have one. What you say about veracs, that's interesting because I thought it was only so-so with its regular attack (crush of course), and the special just made it even more accurate. Hm guess not quite so. I've seen CLS at solo sara, and it's good, although CM is definitely better (a good bit more accurate, and you can hit-and-run without wasting any potential hits). About solo sara, do you need a rune defender in order to hit Zilyana well, or could you use something such as Ely/Divine/Spectral and do just fine? I would like some proof that the CM is better than CLS there as I'm assuming you don't have either. So you haven't tested yourself. As for solo I've never used CLS, because a while back I lost claws and guthans while soloing. So now I always go in a team, with which I've always used a defender.

That's my point, you end up using CR for everything, so CLS is hardly used at all. And in all honesty, it's great that you melee Zilyana with CLS, but wouldn't it be better to CM maul her, or even use veracs? Veracs may be accurate when it's special is activated. But other than that...meh. CLS's accuracy applys to it all the time. Not to mention it has way more strength than a v flail. And I wouldn't know what the CM's dps is like on sara; as I don't have one.

I have a CR and a CLS. I can say they are both good to have. I use CR for everything, appart from various tasks that I need a slight boost of accuracy. I.E. Sara GWD.

Hi I was just wondering if the set affect bonus (e.g. 20% damage to other players) applys to range?

If you're ever going to mage. Get the necklace. Don't bother with the tome of frost, as the money/runes saved from it isn't really worth the ammount of tokens it costs.

Why would a cls+divine be better than cr+divine? Because of the stats lost from the absence of a defender?

Everyone likes their pixels different, so I doubt this will ever end. The maul seems to be mentioned on every other page or so whenever someone makes the original realization that it's good for PvP. Otherwise this is just Rapier stats being refuted by people who bought the Longsword first without thinking. Nah, it won't end until the rapier fanboys realize that killing fire giants with an extra 19 strength for 200k/hr ain't as slick as it sounds. Here lets sum up this thread in a nutshell. Whip for slayer CLS for big effin monsters CMaul for PVP CRapier for fanboys who got lots of GP but never heard of a cannon After all the discusion thats gone on in this thread. People still make troll statements about which one is better ^ There is no point in this thread anymore.

To be honest. I could see there being bots for dungeoneering. As in making them do low complexity floors, as all it would have to do is go through doors and kill monsters. We already know there are bots for just monster killing... Edit: And if this where to happen I think it would be basically impossible to report them or whatever. As they will be in the floor by themselves :mellow:

Wait. So if I went to them and claimed that you where botting they would report you?

Putting a fire infront of anyone thats firemaking will slow them down just the same...If they're using a bot or not. And the person using the bot won't be annoyed if you slow him down, as he/she isn't even doing the firemaking...