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GF CW lol...

Maybe I'm getting warmer...

I think I miss PvP worlds, lol. I was told money in RS is piss-easy to make. I wish I knew how they meant...

In that case, I think I'm going to say Dust Devils: final answer. (From me, anyway!) Even without Slayer Rings they're quite easy to reach if you have your house portal set to Poliniveach. And I can't think of any way that Fire Giants would be better or actually easier to get to lol...

While it's true that bots exist in any MMO, it's also fair to say that the problem is much larger in Runescape for a couple reasons. 1) Almost everything in runescape can be botted. The gameplay of Runescape is much more repetitive than most other MMO's and that is something bots are good at doing, unlike humans who do not have an infinite attention span. 2) Money is extremely important in the Runescape metagame. You need money, and lots of it, to get the highest and most efficient rates of experience in the majority of skills. Unless you are a dice host, lucky staker, or something similar, earning money will slow down your experience gain drastically. These two factors combined make botting, and by extension, RWT (real world trading), very attractive. Bots are much more of a glaring issue in Runescape than in other MMOs. Pretty much this. The only way to get rid of a large portion of bots (the players who only bot certain skills because they're so repetitive) would be to change the game drastically. And that's just not going to happen. RSC -> RS2? There's precedent! Anyway, I would pay $7 at most, but only because 7 is a good number and isn't a huge increase. And probably also because my parents have paid for it since the early 2000's whether I played actively or not! There's actually no "switching to WoW" for me anyway; If the price gets that high, my parents will probably stop paying, I won't be willing to pay in the league of $15, and I simply won't have any subscription-based games. I don't play other MMOs. And just as a kind-of sidenote, I don't think people have that kind of trust in JaGEx. "If you pay double what your subscription costs now, we'll rid the game of bots!" "How?" "We can't tell you! It's a secret!" "Lol GL with that." And most of the population will leave.

So... You need a monster with decent stackable or alchable drops that you can survive at for an hour and a half without banking, that's not totally painful to get to. Just summing things up, lol. That's still pretty broad, though. Dust Devils. That's a classic right there. I don't particularly recommend using Guthan's on them though... EDIT: Actually, it would be good to know some of your qualifications that aren't told by your levels such as, Do you have Bones to Peaches? Do you have Enhanced Excalibur? Do you have Slayer Rings unlocked? Do you have the Slayer Helmet unlocked? Also, by your guidelines, I'm assuming anything in the Chaos Tunnels is automatically crossed out?

Lol ^ Is it not obvious to you what they're trying to censor? Unrelated,

Ugh, I needa get 80 RC too... Wanna split a pack of straight razors?

Good eye! And if anything, they might be there for a kind of real-time sequel of their story. Not to get too far ahead of this, but I'd really like to see them in their respective T11 armors as was shown all over the main page before...

Mostly the males, killed a decent amount of guards too though. That probably averages to like 4 excra[cabbage]s per kill? 2 per bola... So I've killed like 750 with no elites or whip vines. Not turribly mad, but this dungeon is starting to depress me. I just wanted one for personal use. And of course, that fallacy keeps telling me not to leave, because my time is coming...

So you only log in when you want feedback on your songs?? It was pretty nice. Very upbeat as compared to the original, but like you said, you just used the chords from it.

Now we have to worry about magic defence and range defence? Good freakin' luck. I'd say you would've had to have worried about that before anyway. Punchin' holes in Bandos & DFS's all day erryday! :shades: I'm pretty sure Sagaie are worthless except for fighting the things that drop the materials, and even then...

Used bolas in addition to my normal ranging at CW for 5 games... I'm gonna have to say they're gamebreaking. And I'm loving it.

I don't think it's a pain, but even despite the high hits you'll kill less per hour if you continually make them. I think Ranged is considerable there but since you have to pay close attention to where you place yourself, melee is probably just easier. If you safespot and protect from magic the mutant jadinkos will control the vines in the ceiling to whip you. They don't do much damage unless there are more than 2 on you at once... However, they said that skillers can help fighters out (in the BTS?) and this is certainly true in that someone else can just cut the vines near you and you won't take any damage. Though asking a random player in RS to help you (that random player being the skiller that would cut the vines) is likely to get the response "Sure, I'll do it for 1M." Unfortunately yeah lol, and most fighters aren't going to bother ranging that way anyway, but there are actually people training the relevant skills there (for the time being..) who might just do it for free!

I don't think it's a pain, but even despite the high hits you'll kill less per hour if you continually make them. I think Ranged is considerable there but since you have to pay close attention to where you place yourself, melee is probably just easier. If you safespot and protect from magic the mutant jadinkos will control the vines in the ceiling to whip you. They don't do much damage unless there are more than 2 on you at once... However, they said that skillers can help fighters out (in the BTS?) and this is certainly true in that someone else can just cut the vines near you and you won't take any damage.

The whole training-firemaking-like-cooking seems like a benefit to me, although I'm not one to gauge if it's efficient xp-wise. According to my friend who was right next to me testing, Penance horn doesn't work but the xp boosts from fire gloves and ring do. Again according to him it's 398xp per with the gloves and ring. Also: I did hit over 600 twice but wasn't able to sc it!

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It's not very hard to get kills here with some peripheral vision... :P Cooking-style Firemaking? Godsend! Far from anyone's main concern, but is the attachment able to be added to colored whips?

The reason I find this in any way amazing is because I was competing with multiple people who were wearing T2-T4 CW sets with chaotics... :)

It's probably already been said, but only P2P clanmates count towards the quota for citadels. And, I may be wrong on this, but I think they said it takes a week for each tier advancement. I'll have to go look back at that, but that's quite a bit in membership fees, even if the botmaster only enables P2P as it's needed on the accounts. Well, plus, there's the continual costs if they wish to keep their T7 citadel. And obviously SOME bots get banned, so they might have to regularly replace them... But then they would of course just sell GP made to pay the fees... If someone raises and pays for an army of bots just for their citadel I shall congratulate them for the largest and most decadent act of RS antisociality I've ever heard of. It's possible as well that if citadels are really that awesome bot 50-packs will become another item on goldfarmers' shelves... If they're not already. I dunno, bot army start-up kits? lol

This made me happy. I got it ranging with CCB/Rig/EXT Ranged/Broads.

Thanks guys! I think that covered all bases. :)

Ok, hold on. I understand your concern better...

Which would be the best from the choices given? I specifically state I have no intent to C2 or barbfish to preemptively curb such suggestions.

Firstly; I have 85 Fishing. While c2 fishing in dungeons is the most efficient method, I do not wish to devote that much attention. What would be my best choice for training fishing between Monkfish, sharks, and cavefish? Also please post fish per hour for each, if that's known. Secondly, if the vine whip is equal or extremely close to the rapier's stats, but for slash rather than stab, then ignoring degradation, where should the vine whip be used over the rapier? In other words, what monsters have a significant weakness to slash? Or, what monsters have a relative weakness to slash than stab? And then specifically, what are penance monsters weak to between stab and slash? ... Or is there a better choice for B.A? Am I doin' it wrong? Usually I would use rapier most and then switch to whip for controlled stages. Despite my dislike for the kind of situation the jadinko update will create, I'm sure I'll end up camping for that attachment anyway... :mellow: