The_Maddest

When you say slayer is 50k xp/hour, is that skipping low xp tasks like metal dragons, or is it powering through them? And does it assume that you're maxed combat and using the optimum equipment? 50k/hour is close to the rate of melee xp in F2P...

Quadratic formula any day :o :D

We know that F2P mages aren't that good. That's why there's this topic asking what needs to happen. Learn to contribute to the discussion. Please, listen to this guy... That's interesting. Do you mean a staff with a special effect or just one with slightly higher magic bonuses? The former would be nice, but the latter wouldn't really help IMO.

Editting isn't an important part of the vid anyway IMO. You got some nice KOs there, and lol at the random :P

Lol, just PM me whenever you want a fight :P

+1

Personally, I think that F2P solo PKing is already very defence orientated -- you can't actually get kills when fighting with armour on. If F2P needs anything its new weapons (or a magic update!)

Sure, it's great when in a clan/team, but at the moment, you can't really solo PK as a mage with fire blast/binds. I'm not so sure what you mean by efficiency either -- it's not cheaper and it hits lower (although it is quite accurate). Yeah, that would allow people to get kills while below lv20 wilderness. I guess a clan like BK could demolish the best of tanks if they stood still for 10 seconds, but for us smaller clans, we really need the extra no-movement-time. Also, the error message about your target being 'immune' to the binds for the moment is rather silly at the moment. If you get that message, then you've missed the bind and you're target's probably escaped. Oh, and just inquisitive, are you usually a magician/binder while PKing/warring as a clan?

I fail to see how this topic is "Failed". Please remember, we're not discussing on what F2P should/will get, rather what F2P magic needs for the combat triangle to be balanced. Whether any of the ideas are implemented is completely irrelevant.

You mean like a spell where the opponent is forced to walk, not run? That could be useful, but definitely not a replacement I think the druidic robes are already great armour. Just the constant need for 200 FoG tokens stops me using them regularly. Teleblock is more for clan PKing. Watching every opponent teleport from fally/varrok wildy is really annoying; and PKing at GDZ is suicide for small clans when there are so few PvP worlds.

DO NOT TALK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT F2P DESERVES ANYTHING HERE - THERE ARE LOTS OF TOPICS FOR THAT SORT OF DISCUSSION. What do you think F2P mage needs? Granted, it's just got FOG equipment, but these require 200 token recharges every few hours, and so aren't that great for regular PKing. Perhaps you think that snare should be given to F2P? Maybe you think wave spells should go to F2P? Personally, I think that F2P magic needs snare, and for FoG tokens/fully charged FoG items to be tradable so you don't have to spend 2-3 hours per death grinding FoG - what about you?

Just add me and PM me ingame, private always on.

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I'll fight you, no armour, F2P. I'm 9 levels higher than you though :S

Meh mediocre. There's no need to start every fight with a 'no safe' though.

Ooh, nice :D

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I know someone who's 71 attack 74 strength and 99 defence, if that's helpful?

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Everton PMed me ingame asking for a RM and I accepted. It was very close. He had 9 swordies left, I think, but I got a KO in and killed him: He then PMed me again asking for a RM because the last fight was so close. I said OK and we fought. We both had no food left and were low on hp but I managed to hit a 10 on him for the knockout. I survived with 18hp: I don't know if this will count as 1 or 2 DMs, but it doesn't matter - either way. The Maddest - Combat 108 Evertonfc88 - Combat 105

Woot, nice 86 crafting now. GL getting 99 :D

If he's under 55 combat then yes. If he's 56 combat or higher then no. He'd be good in the PvP worlds anyhow.

Lol