The_Maddest

Combat 60+ for lesser demons? :ohnoes: At 108 I still prefer moss giants, lol. Also, I think the mage xp in your title is a bit of a cop-out -- theres nothing special about training mage on crandor Not a bad guide, needs some work though :

No, just no.

They aren't that overpowered in F2P. It's still relativly safe to train range at the greater demons in high level wilderness.

Join PKM pls, link is in siggy :D

That looks like it was in CW FFA

Sorry if this is stupid but I haven't BH'd on my pure for ages. Why such a high mage level? It's hardly necessary for a level 50.

It's because things like PvP worlds have more discussion value than things like a new yew tree in varrok. If you want to see a topic about skilling clans, make one. We won't flame, promise :roll:

Ugh, don't give me that BS. You're acting if ALL PKing happened in the low levels of edgeville wilderness. Defence is a key stat in PKing, depending on how and where you PK. For example, in clan warfare, your high defence would be very, very beneficial. More beneficial than the stereotypical PKer's low defence and high strength. Oh, and if you want to join a clan, the link is in my sig

If you try and fight like this in F2P all you're going to do is lose money in food/potions. You won't have any fun PKing either because there's no danger involved. LOL!

Not quite true. They are a joke at solo PKing, yes, but it is utterly impossible to PK as a clan without a mage. As bad as mage is, the binds are mandatory while PKing and the fire blasts are more accurate than melee.

I'm F2P

It's part of a combo: Holy Lord Saradomin... I've heard of "ice blitz combos" but I wouldn't expect another magical spell to be cast within that time! Does anyone know the cast times of any other spells? There could be even greater combos out there, potentially with three hits. This needs further ivestigation. I'm sure the people who found this found many alternatives but settled for this to be the best one. Not a bad KO, eh? :

Instead of 'fancy boots' you pick 'fighting boots' at the cradle of life in the SOS

I'd be more than happy to prove to you that strength > all :twisted: but I'm F2P -.-

It's part of a combo:

It's only obtainable as a drop on PvP worlds but I'm pretty sure it can be used on non PvP. While your suggestions for F2P are very generous, being a F2Per, I would say that they imbalance the combat situation. In my opinion, rangers and meleers are relativly equal in damage output capability. With around 90+ ranged (aquirable at low combat levels) ranged hits rapid 16-17s with very high accuracy, much greater than any meleer at the combat level. Of course, this evens out when we get near maxed combat because meleers get high accuracy (attack) and power (strength). However, that's the problem of combat levels, irrelevant to this thread. My point is that range really doesn't need a power buff. Having said that, crossbows and bolts in F2P are completely ignored. Maybe crossbows and bolts of equal power to the current bows and arrows? Mage most certainly needs an update. Possibly wave spells, although this could overpower it. Snare is needed and so is teleblock.

You could try entering duel arena tournaments with high atattack and defence using full veracs. That's the only PvP with rewards I can think of you can do without using prayer.

This guy actually does have a good point. In many cases, ranged is greater than defence. Why? Because ranged accuracy and power are grouped into one skill. Therefore, a ranger with 90 ranged has the stats equal to 90 attack and strength. This high accuracy and power is what leads him to say range owns.

We had a best of 3 fight. I won the first round: I won the second round: I was combat 107 and Dmt was combat 100

Hit the nail on the head

Do you use the F- keys (F1, F2, F3 etc.) I don't, but I sure wish I could. Learning them is quite hard. Using them in a PKing situation, even harder. However, switching from inventory to prayer list and back again at about double the speed must be great for when you get piled. If you do use them, are they really that helpful? If you don't, why not?

Says the guy with 83 magic :roll:

Bolded ones should be in F2P. Not too sure about the first one but the 2nd one near the hobgoblin mines should be easy to find.

You could keep helm. After all, you are 99 strength in a no armour fight! Add me ingame, private always on.

Naaah! Don't think so. (F2P myself) What would be handy: Prayer potions! Or at least somewhere to recharge your prayer in pvp... (altars are way too far) a little more bank space :D I think Wallet was being sarcastic. Prayer pots not needed as altars are near enough. Besides it would make profiting from PvP even harder. We just had more bank space :shame: