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Which is pointless as you lose out on slayer XP. Whip drops are rare these days (1/500) and only worth 1.5mil. Your better off sticking with slayer the full route. Or if it is only cash you're after, GWD. isnt gwd alot harder though? my main was mem and when i did armadyl the most profit i got (even with a nice clan) was the aviance drops of noted addy bars. I would think camping at abby demons would give more profit and their definitly easier to get to.

Ok, thanks! EDIT: I just read a guide this guy wrote, and he claims the perfect f2p pker's stats are: ATTACK: 40 DEFENCE: 1 STRENGTH: 90 HITPOINTS: 90 MAGIC: 60 PRAYER: 1 RANGED: 85 COMBAT: 65 Would anyone agree or disagree with that? thats a good hybrid but its kinda like a main that has some limits i believe. as to the question of rune pures being best? tanks vs. rune pures is the probably the ultimate fight. rune pures hit high and are sorta accurate and fast with scimmy. but then again tank pures hit faster and are VERY accurate. for melee you've gotta level 1 more skill to hit hard and accurate.. so your gonna be higher cb then the tank so just think about that. in saying all of this i really believe im gonna get criticized by others so ill watch later for that and maybe fix some things lol edit: and wow woops for bringing an old thing back to life lol

lol wow i thought i was the only person. your mind is just really into the game. Ive had it happen to like playstation games and stuff too. like on guitar hero id be playing a song ive been working on and finally to the last part and be shaking real badly cause the end is just so close and ur about to beat it (same thing for runescape except ur killing) When it starts back up just finish the kill and take alittle break. always helps for me

thanks, and nope 77 isnt my stopping point but it just felt like i was doing more dying then killing. im not really one to tele away unless someone's gonna knock me out faster then i can eat. that does make sense though. ill strive for 91+ (and wow do i have a long way to go lol)

As a long time F2P player, I think that F2P doesn't need anymore quests, nor will we get any more quests. We don't pay for benefits, so we don't get benefits. As for high level quests, the majority of F2P players are new players trying out the game, who are only about lv50 and under. Besides, if we were to get a new quest(Perm quest, unlike Jagex's temp F2P quest) the members would be outraged, based on what I've seen of members, they'd go on some hyped up rant on how we F2P are scum, maggots, etc and how we don't deserve such updates (regardless of whether we are already aware of this or not). In short, I love the idea of F2P getting more stuff, but it's never going to happen. in reality we actually do get alot of stuff... last couple updates i beleive was: pvp, non-perma quest, lumby diary (which completely made fishing worth it on f2p). a quest might not be all that great to give to f2p but something to help a skill actually be worth it on f2p would be great like they did with fishing

my range tank stats are.. 40 def, 79 range, 69 hp, 34 mage, and 44 prayer (70 cb). i asked before if its doomed or not and got an answer to get to 91 range since thats where my hp will be greater then my combat and thats awesome for a tank. and if mage would be good. both were answered but one last question i hope.. Newest question are 2h rangers gonna be a problem around 91? i took it out for a run after getting up to almost 80 and had 400k in the bank so thought id have fun. a few hours later i began thinking what has been killing me cause i now have only 75k.. 2h/rangers are like picking me off like a fly and its so weird cause their like 5 levels lower. ive been being pking right and not safeing. (their maxes around 20 usually ive seen) so i go to 21 and if they hit again ill eat.. but you know how k0's go and wahbam one hit with range and they instantly bring out 2h and hit again for the last hits to take me to 0. im rambling on so ill just let you answer the question. Also is there any advice fighting these?

tank's are great in f2p too. just costs a little more i believe. i've got one and stats are: range 77 hp 66 prayer 43 maxed (thought no prayer would be alright but the extra boost is awesome) mage 34 (getting it up so i can do binds more accurately and do fireblast) def 40 maxed best probably to keep range higher then mage though. i do have a thing to think about though.. defence might not be the best thing to lvl. once you get prayer and your range up youll still be low cb, and youll be hitting high and have the protection prayers to back you up. wearing monk in the situation of 1 def rules as ive been pked by alot of them (cb 62 ranger/prayer beat my 69 tank) this is good path to take also cause you might decide to actually put it in p2p later on. cant go back and undo range/2h hopefully this helped

I don't think that it's necessary to supply arrows/bolts. Just like melee, you use what you bring in. y did they even put runes in then...they could have just made it so u could bring runes in and u wouldnt loose any

i support, could be more creative since its a minigame though. since they give you runes maybe u could get maybe a 100 or so arrows/bolts. call them "mythical shots" (just came to mind so yea lol) and they work for crossbows and bows. or you can just throw them at each other. as to the enchanted bolts i have no clue. i was gonna say they have all the enchantments powers that u can possibly use with that x bow but that makes them alittle too overpowered. could operate and it asks u which (e) you want, then it equipts as that power. any better ideas? especially for names lol?

i dont think id be really playing if that was how rs was today, heard alot about rs from the hardcore people but like one of the tip.it's top story things said. the range was as slow as melee so it wasnt worth lvling. guessing there was probably more skills like that and yea rs2 made everything really worth lvling. i even made a tank for f2p even though melee's supposed to be stronger. but somehow it owns everything with the same combat (sometimes higher :D). and look at the difference between graphics. classic looks like southpark

do the coif's degrade even if u dont get hit? like with barrows equiptment i know they could last forever as long as u didnt get any damage but fog's degradeable items are still a mystery to me

so just be like me and have two computers side by side :D well i dont really multi log in though.. id probably die so easy from paying attention to one and forgetting about the other

awesome, and yea 50% protection and more accuracy should be worth the couple lvls. im at ice giants now and was just leaving the bbones on the floor till i heard the comments. thinking of going mosses with a few thousand bronzes and camp there for a while

ok the title explains itself. got a lvl 40 def, 72 range (at the moment), 32 mage (no clue why i got it lol), range tank. and ive been thinking about getting prayer. the account is totally for pking and im hopeing to keep the combat as low as possible. on one hand i could have either 10% or 15% added to my range with prayer but on the other hand in f2p it doesnt really do much except give about +2 onto the max. anyone have any advice? oh and like i said f2p, i would definitly get prayer if it was p2p lol

so how are santas? their better investment then phats arent they

i agree with you for the most part. id settle for blue dhide really. green doesnt have enough mage def to say it actually does cause even like the lvl 20 mages hit through it for the most part unless u train def 40+. also like someone else said (sorry lazy and dont wanna look up lol) mages should also get mystic to make the combat triangle more complete

i doubt it, they were very poor. and they were wearing rune legs

my pure got the pre-deg version as the drop so its useless. cant trade

ok i beleive this statement just closed my question. i guess i got the pre-degraded version. yea that is odd, cause its completely useless to pures that just want to sell. thanks RSfreak.

im led to believe you've updated the first post with everything so far that's made it sound right.. so im gonna comment on the 75% accuracy and the bonus dont stack thing. i dont think accuracy is built into a wep as a % accuracy. Its built into the atk bonus so get rid of the bonus's dont stack. put "str/prayer bonus's dont stack" but the atk and maybe the def. stacks. The reason for this is because the higher the atk bonus of a weapon the more accurate(hits more often high) it is. I know this only from range cause if u have a regular bow (low range atk stats=low accuracy) you can still hit your max at range but it wont hit often. If you take a magic short bow (high range atk stats) then ur gonna hit that max alot more. The same goes for melee except youve got slash, crush, etc. (lol the last atk just slipped my mind

i dont think its careing who's happy. people hate change. even if its good. bounty hunter was hated when it first came out. people figured it out and created strategies and then made money. theres still haters of it out there but its a small amount. bh to pking is like rs2 to classic. there always will be haters of rs2 but most people just work with it and figure it out.

thats the thing.. it wont let me sell, its (deg) so untradeable. just keep wonder how in the world did it get droped like that. yea my main can wear it but my pure that got the drop cant

purpose? your gonna hit twice as much.. like ninja's carry two swords sometimes and they can like atk and kill faster. as to the pick axes yea that might get alot of put downs cause if you watch while u mine, you use both hands to slam the pick into the rock. but wow if this gets put into runescape ill definitely be on the lookout for dual weilders.. . That's exactly what I mean. It's not very thought out because this purpose is clearly a bad choice. Whip max hit: I hit in the 40s with 99 str. Max hp: 99 So that's an 80 hit. Now imagine that even against someone with 99 hitpoints, by the time they ate a shark they'd be dead. That's not to mention people with lower hitpoints, which is possible if pures start to do this. Who says pures won't get 50 defense to use an extra whip? 10 combat levels for an extra weapon? Hell of a good deal. its only on weapons up to rune. whats ur max with rune scimitar and times that by 150%...that would be ur new dual weild max. useing my stats i can hit around 20 with prayer and pot.. 30 would be the dual weild... dunno really whats outragous in terms of mem but sounds pretty good

yea it doesnt matter if they have 75k or 75m but if the item their protecting is the 75k then ur gonna get a real bad drop

purpose? your gonna hit twice as much.. like ninja's carry two swords sometimes and they can like atk and kill faster. as to the pick axes yea that might get alot of put downs cause if you watch while u mine, you use both hands to slam the pick into the rock. but wow if this gets put into runescape ill definitely be on the lookout for dual weilders.. on another note jagex would probably have to give ranger and magers some more power too. dual wielding weps would throw melee off the charts on power it would seem like. even if it was only 50%. i dunno really. someone would have to do the math or a simulation on a melee(dw) vs mage and the same vs range.