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id think it would be like lootshare in that the clan leader would choose what ls option the clan gets. If a clan really was good it would do whats best for the whole team since the "lootshare" gives the next drop to the person with highest lsp which is random to the clan cause they dont know who has that highest lsp. and + for me too. previous post i read the whole thing but forgot to put it in lol

what in the world are you talking about... melee and has free range of gs, whips, and everything else. mage can freeze, poison, weaken, etc all they want free of charge (up till they run out of runes). why not give rangers the same benifits. This really isnt asking for much. Cause even with unlimited range ammo of all kinds a meleer can still take down range. It would make fog an epic minigame cause you'd have to be a well rounded hybrid to get kills constantly. i think i already said i support but never thought of how awesome it would be till i saw armourdilos post

55 def and 83 range and 44 prayer is what my tank ranger has. I think ive got the right set up with archer helm, pendent, rune cbow, emerald (e) bolts, god armour for vambs and body, granite sheild, but.. (a) what should i wear for legs? (B) what should inventory look like? ive seen several different setups (sara brews+super restores, btp tabs+ prayer pots, etc) but dont know what would be best for my low level def. Or is there a different set up. Ive seen sharks but dont see that being great by theirself. oh and i can get a few more defence lvls but i wanna keep it 44 prayer. hopeing to go gwd soon but i dont want to go there and not profit from it thanks in advance --edit: is firegiants faster range xp in this case? ive done them but kinda cut them out cause the drops and xp didnt seem as fast as i thought. but was only using bronze knives i guess :/

get your range up around 80 and try 2h/range combo once you get them down to 20 hp. your around my mains lvls and i just sorta gave up on him so i could make a tank ranger. but yea you still can do pretty well if you have the time and patience. might want to get a couple more people's opinions though

yup :D sorry for putting it on here.. didnt take the time to go back to your post and see who did it hp shield idea credits go to "sees_all1" and "bloodargon" if anyone liked my post above

love the original idea & jones's. maybe make it like tzaar fighting caves where your alone. Possibly createing both ideas but jones's would have alot better rewards since it would be alot harder. would really be challangeing for f2p people since they dont have all those potions like sara+super restore. an idea of a reward might be a hp boosting shield. after reading all the posts recently hp has been a problem and hp boosting equiptment has been one of the solutions. It would be a knock off of the dragonfire and chrystal shield (without the high stats which would overpower f2p). chrystal in that it degrades each point of damage you take. dragonfire in that you have to go back to the bosses and recharge it somehow... ???

lol i actually got a kick out of reading this. but yea someone was right in saying this might actually happen. look at the new ancient armours. using them right will get you a kill in around 2-3 hits. in about a year i bet either stronger armour will come out to balance this or jagex will totally ruin runescape and make a slightly stronger weap that probably will 1 hit someone easier then dharoks. Hopefully they tone it down and maybe make the new stuff have less accuracy or lower max hit of them

i agree. customshare would be awesome. Although im f2p ive had times were my clan and me were fighting roaches and someone gets a scimitar or square shield. First off its hard to sell square shields. Second the person has to divide the cash evenly. Yea it seems like a small amount but we used to go often and would get tons of rune items. To make it more appealing to jagex to make it happen there probably should be a min of 10k or something. Cause all those little things like runes seem to be fine with the LSP system. Just the armour and weaps ive seen a problem with.

so....100m drop should allow 1k ppl = lag fest? I think the idea of contributing at least 5% towards the total drop worth for a drop worth a lot is a better idea, so u don't have many low lvls running around. example: if drop is 100m, potential participants have to pay 5m to get in and that will go into the pot or something and that along with limit of 100 people will make it better. I'm still working out the kinks i agree on this statement and the one about drops being proportional to the number of people. One change to the 5% contribution though. instead of going into pot and everyone paying different 5% contributions (cause as the pot gets bigger the more that 5% is gonna be so people are gonna pay more depending on when they enter) the 5% contribution should go into the pot for the next round. This would create a never ending drop potential. as long as 20+ people come each round I absolutly love this idea though cause when i see "x amount of money being droped in partyroom" i see low level people scrambleing for laws to go to fally and so i just give up and just do something more useful like training. Id bet anything that the 5% entrence fee would cut this low level festival down.

i dont see why longbows are even around other then alcing... there are certain circumstances when its used in range but rarely does those come to pass. So actually p2p can just have all longbows to themselves and just let f2p have short bows. it would lower the price and let a wider range of bows be able to alc without loosing alot of money. also i support just takeing corrupt completely out... that or lowering the price and putting a cap on it so it doesnt go above the regular. right now its insane to buy any of the weps

what exactly are you using this crushing weapon for? maybe that will help us decide. this is like the best weapon of rs questions. it depends on what your doing as to which weap is best.

just keep them in bank for a few more weeks.. dclaws are going up in price still. be careful though cause their are more and more of the claws apearing so its gonna be more and more common as time goes by. Try skilling for a week or 2 while the price goes up and youll have junk + ge will be more accurate to the demand.

lol anyone seeing this post is probably instantly gonna go to ge and buy all the fire arrows they can get their hands on. actually suprised the price isnt higher since it takes more time to make them

this was the idea i had before in simpler form lol. but since you made it easier to understand i support your idea :D. one problem would be though with crossbows. how would the game determine what bolts you get on each kind of xbow you bring in. cause mems do bring enchanted since they cause more damage and effects. anyone ideas?

did the calculations for you and if you keep atk and str the same.. youll need 44 prayer 84 atleast ranged (for it to be range based) and like all tanks get ur defence to the highest possible you can. 90's usually the goal for bh tanks for def. cause if u max range and hp you'll still be under the 101 mark. ive been makeing a tank from my ranger pure and took a while to get up my atk and str so i could train def. but your already there so your doing pretty good already.

oooh and thats another reason... im not p2p but in fog dont mages just use ancients to blast away everyone? trying to beat them meleeing would be impossible since it would just land higher atks from the mage.. and range, well range doesnt want to buy their best ammo cause it would just cost them alot of money.

nah dont get def... well not till you see how the range/2h goes.. just get 40 atk 40+ str and get higher range and check it out then. on my tank ranger i regret getting the def cause range/2h i found out would have been awesome. also whoever said beserker... read what the subject is.. f2p. once u get into higher levels of f2p with ur range 2h you might eventually want more def but keep it at 1 or close to it for now. at 74 cb range/2h's are my worst nightmare cause of the combo

lol yea really good luck selling those phats.. ur more restricted on money then you think. people only use them for basically junk now

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true... so why dont they get rid of the runes? you could cover the cost of runes with doing the fog items with the tokens and then selling at ge after you either use or have the guy uncharge it. so the subject should be changed to either get rid of runes or add where rangers dont loose their arrows/bolts

wait so is this f2p or p2p... im training a tank too and i dont know if everyones telling me 70 def for mem or 70+ def for either. i understand now tanks have str and atk so you can train def easier (though it should be low enough so you dont become mostly melee instead of range) but the def levels are a mystery to me since i always thought 40 was the max it should be in f2p

would this (except for slayer and barrows) still be true? i know makeing a tank in f2p is weird and difficult but any helps good :D.. but still leveling def over 40+ is still good in a f2p tank?

but... somewhere i saw the new runescrafting staff is the best weap now for 1atk pures. so maybe look into that? its got a great str bonus for being that low level.

that would make f2p even more uneven... although it would drive up the price of godswords in turn makeing mems rich :D.. fletching is actually a idea jagex might consider.. theres no reason why f2p shouldnt get alittle fletching since melee can do most of their armour, mages can make some of their runes. but where is range in this pattern... range has to buy from the g.e. or pay really high prices at gen store lol

been looking but couldn't find answer. my f2p "tank" is 40 def, 79 range, 69 hp, 70 cb, 44 prayer, and 1 atk & str. in a previous topic i was told my def was too low for being a tank. so how should i level this so it can pvp awesome as soon as possible (my minds set on alot of leveling, but its just i like to pvp for fun between training). im more of a world pvp cause bh isnt in the near future since it should be in high 90's in cb. edit ok i beleive ive figured it out. gonna do 40 atk for rune scimmy, then 50-60 str just to hit high and make it actually faster then range to train def to around 70 and try out using the 2h/range technique just incase i wanna use it to k0. ill keep a watch on my str to make sure it doesnt level too much cause id rather keep it range based. ill keep subscribed to this just so anyone has anymore help for me. thanks oh and wow dslayer was crazy easy with 80 range 40 def with a few bronze bolts and a regular bow.. used alot of food but kept eating even at max hp so i didnt really eat alot if u dont count that lol