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Only the beginning. Jagex has been releasing and getting away with tons of, "That's minor in my book update." over the last few weeks and months. Each time, pushing their luck a little more and sinking a little lower. Each time not taking the interests and cares of their loyal members into consideration... What few of them are still human. Facebook. Loyalty programme. Katana. Temp bans (for members). Refer-a-friend. On and on and on. Again, only the beginning. Ps. Hello, Eduardo.

Oh my god.... Are you freaking serious?.... ... .. . And they call themselves 'world's biggest free MMO...' They've had those ingame pop-ups for a few months now. I found out when I went on an old account and leveled a few skills. Somes up for the first few skills that hit level 10. They took out things like agility shortcuts and [cabbage] from F2P to stop the "push" to get members, and then do this?

It's funny that Jagex says that bots cost them money. How, might I ask, do they cost you money when they make up probably near 50% of subscriptions? That's like saying my full-time, 6 digit job is costing me money because I have to buy gas to get there. Stupid [bleep]s. Also, that copyright team they claim to have is all busy watching YouTube and pushing claims on all videos that aren't, "Omfg! Jagex rocks and I want them to have my babies!"

He himself said the reason given was for posting anti-Jagex content on YouTube. :P.

Maybe because only by having the "benefits" he had could he actually help with the problems to some degree? Everybody knows that Jagex doesn't read reports. And he doesn't have to like or agree with Jagex to hold a position for helping people, the community, and the game itself.

Don't forget that they initially stated the rewards from the loyalty program would hold no in-game advantages or bonuses (otherwisee it'd be a form of RWT... right?); they'd be purely cosmetic. Lying sacks of [cabbage].

Good read, but hesitant to believe the validity (truthfulness of it really being an ex-J-Mod) of it. Nothing against you, Plasma_2, just the source.

First, just let me start off by saying I hope no one believes this babble bull-[cabbage]. I will direct the rest at Jagex, since I know it will be read by them... You. Lost revenue due to bots? What exactly does it cost Jagex? To hire two or three people to write these uber leet detection systems that can be bypassed by any kindergartener? How exactly does Jagex lose enough money in this that the thousands and thousands and thousands of bots paying memberships doesn't pay for? Seriously! Stop talking out of your ass-holes! You're just making yourselves look like fools and embarassing us as players for playing this [cabbage]ty game! Firstly, aren't Jagex the kings and queens of PR stunts? I mean... Come on. And why would a J-Mod have to be in-game to ban hundreds of bots if their detection systems are doing anything at all? How is Jagex removing websites? By making 1 or 2 change them name from RSBot to PowerBot? Wow, that made them go offline for under 24 hours! Your detection system is garbage and you can't tackle any website for [cabbage]. Admit it! You can get a few on copyright, that's correct, so they go down for a few hours, change their name, make some new logos, and their back up. What else, honestly, can you legally tackle a bot site for? Teams pressing the ban button on the few that are found by your [cabbage]ty detection system. You need to hire some people who have enough of a head on their shoulders to be able to tackle and who can actually develop software capable of detecting these bots. Fire those script kiddies you've got working in your anti-cheat department and hire some real developers. Seriously, what are they doing? Obviously what they're doing... Ain't working! If I look into the news post about combating bots from 5 years ago I see the exact same thing. "We can't tell you now, but when we do, you'll be like, 'Omfg! That's what they were doing!'" What has changed from then 'til now? I'll tell you. There is even less communication now, it's easier then ever now to bypass your detection systems (trust me), and there's thousands more bots! This won't last forever? Well, it's been over 10 years and not much has changed. I don't think you, Jagex, have any idea as to how big the bot problem really is. This is something that you as a company have been claiming to do for years and years and years. Until I see cold hard evidence of this, I won't believe it. Mk, what else happened? He posted a video stating that you, and everyone else agrees, don't deserve the Golden Joystick Awards. Instead of blindly following you and sucking up Jagex's ass, he voiced his opinion. You as a company didn't like that someone didn't think you were the #1 hot [cabbage] and demodded him within 24 hours. What else is there to know? Maybe you should think about why people are showing dissatisfaction for every update. Nearly every update since Andrew left has been utter trash. Too many updates have been about Jagex trying to lure in more customers, getting more popularity, then actually caring about the ideas, opinions, and thoughts of the loyal members that it currently has. Look at any RuneScape fansite and you'll find this to be true. Refer-a-friend, loyalty points, Facebook, Katana, shall I go on? Instead of calling them trolls and criticizing them, try looking at why these people are growing so upset with your product. You, Jagex are nothing like the company you used to be. You are a company full of empty promises who lie constantly to what few loyal (human) paying members you have left. Your developers can not combat the bots and have not been able to since the first bot client was created. This is evident if you look at all the news posts over the years about upgrading your detection systems to once again be better then ever! Yet, what do we see, Jagex? We see thousands of bots at avansies, at dragons, at the tzhaar city, everywhere! Get your act together, hire some developers who have something between their ears besides air who actually have the knowledge and skill to write software capable of detecting at least some of the bots. How many do you detect now, do you think? 2% of bots? 5%? Clearly not many since all of them have 99 range, strength, constitution, etc. How do you think they got those 99s, Jagex? It's time you pulled your heads of of the sand and did something while this [cabbage]-hole you call a game can still be saved. You're lucky after I quit (Ironically because of all your bull-[cabbage]) people missed me enough to pay my membership for me to come back online a few times a month or else you'd be getting [bleep]-all from my account.

My thoughts and perhaps my words exactly, just with WarRock replaced by a different game. RuneScape was special when it at least FELT like the developers were making it for their own enjoyment. Equal playing field... Years ago, that's what really was provided. Exactly. When you saw a 99 cape and knew they they had equal options as you and took just as much time as you to get yours... Not that they got theirs with a 2.8 multiplier on BXPW or referred a damn friend for !0% more XP.

People voted to have free-trade returned after believing the false information that Jagex themselves stated that they could combat bots when really they couldn't stand a God-damned chance against them. Had people known that Jagex couldn't, and knew the level to which the bot problem would grow to (Like it is today), I doubt you would have seen half those votes.

The thing I found attractive about RuneScape so many years ago was that there was no BXPW, no bonus XP gimmicks, no buying items for cash. I hated games like WarRock and [cabbage] because of it items for members that they could buy to get bonus XP and level faster for one whole week! Now Jagex has become just like all of them. Everyone had the exact same chances at everything. XP, items, etc. Now, it's going to slowly turn into who's got the biggest wallet.

See! Did I not make a post a few days ago stating that Jagex was going to stoop to a new low in the near future? Well, here it is. :). But seriously, Jagex. Here's an idea. Since you pretty damn well allow botting anyways, why not charge a higher membership fee for those that bot and grantee a 0% chance of ban? Or is that too close to the current 0.1%? Lmfao, getting desperate and money hungry, Jagex, and all your pathetic excuses of updates are making that pretty evident. TBH, I'd be embarrassed to even work there.

People should send stuff like this to their video contest thingy... Bringing this back up because I find it disgusting that Jiblex is going to be demodded for this, he has the interests of the community at heart which is what should make a player mod. Jagex are willing to punish their most loyal players over bots. Jagex continues to sink lower and yet still fails to surprise me. I'm sure this doesn't even scratch the surface as to how low we'll see Jagex sink in the near future.

These scripts that he's using are clicking exact coordinates, exact colors, has exact sleep values and does nothing random. It has been running for months. I told Cheesy and them months ago when he only had like three 99s. He now has 7. Easy woodcutting, fletching, firemaking, fishing, cooking, thieving, and hunter. The whole purpose was too see how far someone could go with-out randomizing a bot at all, using no anti-ban, and taking a maximum of 5-10 minutes to write the bot. I don't know what bots Jagex claims to be banning, or how they seem to be detecting them, but it obviously isn't the thousands at avansies with 99 range, constitution, attack, strength, etc. And how do you think all these bots got the stats and quests to do these gold-farming tasks? Hundreds more hours of botting.

This is what they need to work on the most. When a friend can purposely use the most obvious bots, taking 5 minutes to write, with no anti-ban, and get away with 7 99s and counting... What detection system?

I would think I was a big cause of claws dropping to 16 or 17M. :P. Then again, I think the reason they were high before was this: How are claws lost in the game? When they held 32M, they were lost in PvP. If you killed someone and they lost claws, you rarely got them as the drop. Now, not many claws are disappearing. You also get people like me getting a very steady 30+ pairs a month... would still be higher cost if less there were less botters Edit: Did some research and the 3 main botting sites didn't have TD bots and there were threads saying it would be impossible to make because there was no way to predict what combat style it would use next. There are probably more advanced botting sites(cant mention; hint: rid are the initials) that aren't as popular that might have a script like that. highly doubt it due to the feedback on those threads though. Maybe those 'bots' were jsut extremely anti-social People can make private scripts lol, doesn't have to be released to the public. People that create their own script to gold farm wouldn't want others using their bot I've only seen one TD bot ever created and it was never released to the public. ;). It is entirely possible to know what combat style it will use because you can actually force them onto using melee. Only about 3 of us (Me, my GF, and possibly Everto) TD killers actually know how to do that. That trick is amazing, especially if you have Soul Split :shades: Hehe, shhh. I told them if they want to know it, they have to come on a TD trip with me and watch for it. TBH, I really just looks like a mis-click, eh? :). Don't really need that trick appearing on YouTube... Use the force melee attack style trick, use the force melee prayer trick, barrage with a max mager and range with a cannoner. 10-15 second TDs. Lol. Or just kill 3 TDs at a time. Hella efficient. :P.

That was his own music track? Wow! I'm even more impressed! You have my vote, sir! Again, absolutely incredible!

999, if they make VIP scripts then they do. In-fact, it's extremely good money! As you said, people have earned hundreds of thousands of dollars off single scripts. Other people make more then that from writing smaller, simpler, but more scripts. Some sites pay by members. For example: If I was a VIP scripter at SiteX, and SiteX had an average of 5,000 paying members of $10 per month, they might just give me a portion of that. Or, you can hope to make more buy having people buy your scripts, and making money solely on that. But you wouldn't get a portion of the 5,000 members. The creator of the Dungeoneering bot most likely just sold his script rather then take a portion. It is very good, very easy, very fast money. A well-known and trusted developer can easily make a living off of such.

INCREDIBLE!! One of the all-time best RuneScape videos I've ever seen! Good luck!!

I would think I was a big cause of claws dropping to 16 or 17M. :P. Then again, I think the reason they were high before was this: How are claws lost in the game? When they held 32M, they were lost in PvP. If you killed someone and they lost claws, you rarely got them as the drop. Now, not many claws are disappearing. You also get people like me getting a very steady 30+ pairs a month... would still be higher cost if less there were less botters Edit: Did some research and the 3 main botting sites didn't have TD bots and there were threads saying it would be impossible to make because there was no way to predict what combat style it would use next. There are probably more advanced botting sites(cant mention; hint: rid are the initials) that aren't as popular that might have a script like that. highly doubt it due to the feedback on those threads though. Maybe those 'bots' were jsut extremely anti-social People can make private scripts lol, doesn't have to be released to the public. People that create their own script to gold farm wouldn't want others using their bot Anyone who could create a successful script for TD's would be better served using their talents elsewhere. As it is, I'm skeptical of there being a TD bot. Though I could be wrong, since I haven't been to TD's in forever). The person who created the only TD bot has actually replied many times in this thread. I'm not allowed, according to TIF mods, to name botters or bot developers but many people know who he is... There was a huge uproar about there being a TD bot in the pictures thread a few months ago. Trust me, it was capable of killing 3 TDs at once, full gear switching (8 items), switching corect prayers, forcing the TDs onto melee attack style, luring, etc. It could kill a TD in under 20-25 seconds. ;). It could also successfully duo if run on two networked computers. The developer only sent it to 5 other people. This person also wrote one of the first bot clients for a currently very popular botting website.

I had to stop it after all the "an report," and, "an door," and, "an bot race," and, "an bot." Cannon works for several crappy bots. People willing to use ones that don't have a simple work-around for the key phrase, "You can not light a fire here." My new favorite is the way I found to kill black dragon bots and trap astral crafters. Good money there. ;).

TBH, I can't recall if I've posted my tattoos, but... I have: [spoiler=Designs] [spoiler=Tattoos] Only 2 pictures I have of the back design, sorry: I have no picture of the Sweet Prince, but it is here: And again, no pictures of my bicep design, but this was where I got it at least: Meh. :P. I find tattoos on women very sexy, as long as they're not cliche... Like a butterfly on the ankle or tribal tramp stamp on the lower back. Yuck. A beautiful woman with an equally beautiful design is just... Mmm mmm good!

im jelly bro Fake! Jk jk. Just try not to sell it when the prices go up a bit. Keeping those bad boys always results in profit in the long run. ;).

I Lold at this. I doubt Jagex themselves even believed they could handle the bots when free trade was brought back. All they cared about was the profits brought in by the, "OMFG! The wildy is coming back!" Are they planning great methods? That's a battle they've already lost. They can try to advance their [cabbage]ty detection systems, but with each advance, the bot writers have it bypassed in minutes. Chris L is my vote.

Omfg, blank out those names before the TIF mods nail you for it! :P.