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Yeah i seem to be getting close to 40 an hhour using Void, Whip + Def, Sgs for specs and 10% Str Prayer.

If you have time to wait for me to get home, I can help you with barrows gear and how to go about killing each brother. I've looted over 4k chests, using multiple different methods. Alrighto :) I'll wait till then. Also, i need ~1350 Crimsons for 88 Summoning. Does anyone have an idea on how many Abby Demons that would be? If i don't have it wrong its about 1/3 for a crimson so that puts me on about 4k Demons?

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*facepalm* I'd go with Mike, just switch between the both of em. Mages are probably best, but because you kill them so fast they require a lot of attention. Demons are good for charms as well. btw, did you quit your aviansie goal? D: No, just taking a break. After killing for 8k Bars i've become a bit bored of them. I'm just going to do a few other things for a while then get back to them.

Aviansies and Green Dragons are two of the best money makers at the moment.

This guide was made a billion years ago. Its old and outdated. The author of the guide might not even be apart of tif anymore. Just let it die away.

Use them on the Grange Exchange and use the money you mage to buy yourself an Avianies setup :D

Atm i've only got Void, Whip + Def, Sgs. I can obviously buy Prossy for mages. But Void would be good enough for Abby's right?

Okay i'm going to assume you kill Zammy Mages. Ranged or Melee? What setup would be best to use? Any other advice on the topic?

I want to do a bit of camping. Which would be the better money maker at the moment? Whips or D boots? Edit: I'll be looking to make in the region of 120m - 150m EDIT 2: I haven't really done Barrows in ages. I just need a break for a few days before getting back to Aviansies. Barrows seems to be pretty profitable these days. Like i said i haven't done it in ages and i'm not fimiliar with setups and inventories anymore. What would be a good setup with an SGS? Can i use Void? Prossy? Any advice please? How many kills can i get with Maxed melee?

It's better to fight them in the erie, it should be less crowded, and you can target the level 69s, 72s, and 92s. Errrm, no. go take a look at my guide, there's a link in my Sig. Use the spot marked with a red X. Its THE BEST spot to use. I Use it myself and i manage 180 kills an hour without any hastle. As for armour just use rune legs, Snakeskin boots, Archer helm ,granite shield, rune xbow, arma pendant, black vambs. Just read through the guide. I think it will help you alot. Its very detailed. Good luck.

I was thinking of going there in a few days, after i get another 4k Aviansies. I've never been there so obviously ill want to take the cheapest armour i can, but not so cheap that it will prove uneffective. What would such a setup be? Also, inventory wise? And then what would be a decent sized team? Should we LC or CS? Any additional information you can give me? Thank you!

Not sure on your Defence level but if its anything close to 80 You can Black Knife AZ's for about 60 - 70k exp an hour fully afk.

z0mg! 2x Max KC!

8k kc now.

Oh what? 8k kc! EDIT: Though i should add that throughout the last 4k KC i only used 14 B2P tabs.

I posted earlier but my internet lost connection just as i wanted to post. Guess the post never got...posted. Anyway i said that you should check out my guide on Iron Mining. Altought you don't have the requirements for banking its still the best spot for Powermining. Do this till 80. When you reach 50 you should do a Combo of Concentrated gold and Granite. Granite can be upto 60k exp an hour if you're fast (Check out Hedgehog1's guide, its one of the best) and Concentrated Gold is about 50k exp an hour with a nice bit of profit.

If you want to be a pure tank then you should never touch Attack or Strength. If you're going to make your new account P2P it will be easy to train Defense with Ranged since you can do Yaks, Chinning, etc. so it makes things fast. I dont know if you want to be a PK based tank. If you do then 94 MAge would help. Ultimatly 99Ranged and Defense would be your goal.

That's interesting, I've yet to meet anyone else that thinks void mage is better than mystic. Then again I don't know many people that use void mage. I don't suppose you've kept a log of hits vs no hits during your maging escapades at any point? I'd love to see it if you've have. nobody i know can really tell me for sure how exactly runescape's accuracy system works, so i can only run around and make blind stabs in the dark and see what looks simplistic and generally jagex-ish. Considering that even you say ahrims > void mage, i personally won't invest my time in getting void mage just to test the theory. but any data would be absolutely terrific. I quite recently used Void along with Claws of Guthix. i had 800 casts which got me about 80k exp but i have no clue on my hits. i will however do this again soon as i quite enjoy it. So ill be sure to keep a decent log on exp/hits/etc.

my bad your comment stated: so i wasn't sure if you meant void was better or not aside from the defensive qualities I think its better in any aspect. Not just Defense. I don't think that Void Mage is as weak as people try to make it out. I think most people go on hearsay or theyre just to scared or stupid to have their own opinion. Ive tried void at places where people would never imagine using it (Rock Lobsters for example) and the result i got was better than i did with Mystic and Infinity and not at all far behind Ahrims.

full void magic is an utter failure, mystic beats it by far, ahrims beats it even further. full void magic gives +30% to your magic accuracy but full mystic gives +44 to your equipment magic attack the +44 usually translates to more than a +30% magic accuracy bonus. I guess you failed to read the part about Void having a 100* better defense :wall: Keep your uneducated opinions to yourself? Void Mage, when used for tanking, beats any other maging armour. It's probably the best armour to use when it comes to aviansies. That's true. Void mage does have much more defense. I just thought the issue of the offensive capabilities of void mage vs mystic was not addressed. Do me a favour? Go to Aviansies and use 1k Casts wearing Mystic and another 1k wearing Void. I can put money on the fact that you will get a much better result from Void than you will with mystic or even Infinity. I think they only thing that beats Void is Ahrims (and only just). Sure, the stats might suggest otherwise but the result is what counts.

full void magic is an utter failure, mystic beats it by far, ahrims beats it even further. full void magic gives +30% to your magic accuracy but full mystic gives +44 to your equipment magic attack the +44 usually translates to more than a +30% magic accuracy bonus. I guess you failed to read the part about Void having a 100* better defense :wall: Keep your uneducated opinions to yourself? Void Mage, when used for tanking, beats any other maging armour. It's probably the best armour to use when it comes to aviansies.

Yes it could work, but keep in mind that youre going to have very very low defense then. And the charge lasts for about 5 minutes.

Nah every time youre going to leave a 2k drop on the floor. Sure youre going to be able to get more d bones per hour but you wont be able to collect enough extra to make up for the hides you drop.

7k arma kc added.