Grimy_Bunyip

allow me summarize for you. You're trying to talk about dungeoneering when you have no idea what you're talking about. and everybody else is trying to tell you they think you're stupid.

give players tools to pwn bots. You can already plant flowers underneath red chin bots for example. A single Cwars barricade would pwn essence mining bots as they run back and forth from the bank. Jagex may not be able to field the man power, but there's plenty of botter hating gamers around. and these players would change their strats just as quickly as the botters. would pwn only a small portion of the bots, but, it's an easy fix that doesn't require constant input on the part of jagex. the only problem with current bot slaying methods is that they're time consuming, and you can only feasibly pick off 1 bot at a time with say, dropping limpwurt roots at hobgoblin peninsula. so it kinda depends on the tools provided. granted, these tools could also be used to grief non-bots :P

dat 19 min furnished was helping friend get primal rapier.

the relevant markov chain theorems, useful for calculating exact expected overkill loss. http://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/teaching_aids/books_articles/probability_book/Chapter11.pdf I could finish the research if u want, but, I kinda stopped cuz nobody really cared lol

Zaryte - Ancient Final Short Soma Ish Grimy Blade Rocked our log counts 8 ppl 2 more floors, this time with 2 3BO'ers Blasphemite is cool tho. Ipink Floyd was just some random 3BOer but was also good. more drops: got 36 mil for this after split

you should probably key for some w148 floors for a while. It's pretty hard to find abandons floors in DGS. someone was trying for like half an hour last night lol I for one, do not do abandons floors anymore but a few people still do. but yeah i recommend you at least practice some keying. If you're lucky, you'll find a few decent players in w148. I'd recommend adding those people.

And MVP too that first floor toad keyed :D in other news: 8 man split, sold for 229m

sry i think we had a misunderstanding when i said 30% i meant 30% less, ie 70% but that was a theoretical number, sagi top should still be good.

4 high warped floors with toad, his buddies, and final. Floors sucked though, toad's friends were disrespectful and put me on their ignore list while i was keying. And final afked at some point during each of the first 3 floors. Toad ended up keying the last 2 floors since it's kinda pointless having a keyer who's on ignore list toad's a pretty good keyer. both floors were Kalger, and almost full floors, floor 10 WAS a full 64 room floor. he gave me a few tips too.

pro tip: it's possible to dg with just one hand.

last 2 floors were nice. first one we had a slight problem. JUST as Jimi said he had to AFK for whatever IRL reasons he never stipulated. the floor one wayed to the door that jimi had gated. GF otherwise, the floors were just dandy. Do note that, the prestige xp of the floors was based on the base xp of the floor being done, not the floor being checked off. does this imply that doing floor 60 and checking off floor 48 gives you more xp than doing floor 48 and checking off 48? possibly. but a full conclusion requires more data, and that'll come naturally.

they always activated with a delay. Just a long time ago, the prayer icon would appear above your head BEFORE your protection actually activated. The prayer icons now lag, to reflect the fact that the protection you receive from the prayer, also lags.

I'm sorry about that. I'm not usually that bad, I promise. Any way I can make that up to you? :unsure: You should give me another shot someday when I have my laptop back. (I should never, ever DG on a netbook again.) i yell during floors, im not actually upset at you. but you should dg more, and not on your netbook :P it's just what all the keyers in DGS do (cept tui)

soulsplit is hardly necessary to have enough food to boss with.

you just get good enough at it until you can do it.

Do you mean jamming the rager/giant on the other side of the obby, or stepping carefully around the slinger/storm to jam the giant/rager on the other side? carefully stepping

with a cele cat, mage is probably always better.

its possible they are better to be meleed. I've heard that too, from ppl who are nontrivially good at dg. and Im actually not sure which is correct. I simply haven't done the research. Maybe it depends on the level of the fire giant. Overly high level ones may be worth maging, or vice versa for example. but yeah, DG skill kinda falls into 4 primary pillars: Slaying - Mostly prayer management, safespoting, prayer flashing, knowing when to attack what, and getting from one GD to the next ASAP Puzzle Solving - Typically involves knowing all the tiny tricks involved with each puzzle. Keying - Having a good sense of the floor. Helps even if you're not keying. Instincts on knowing when to gate what for example. Skilling - Mining prom, making ragers, planting herbs, making potinos. Anybody can do em. The best players are disciplined and do these things losslessly.

you have a surgebox don't you? that fire giant at the start of the floor was probably worth surging. the whole team got demolished at ramokees, learn to safespot. So imagine you have Stormbringer (x = Stormbringer, Y = you, 0 = empty tile, R = Bloodrager) (do not that the skinweaver is difficult to safespot since she will run away from you) R00 YX0 000 Up is North The bloodrager is currently punching you, where do you step next to safepot? the correct answer is 1 south 1 east, the bloodrager will step east. 0R0 0X0 0Y0 and you will be safe to smack the skinweaver, with only the deathslinger attacking you. what about: 0YR 0X0 000 This time if you step 1 west, 1 north, the rager will follow you, and it will become: R00 YX0 000 but that's just the original scenario i listed above, so step 1 south 1 east. this logic applies if you mirror the situation north/south, and or west/east. this however, will NOT work if someone tramples the stormbringer (IE steps on or runs by said monster) team took way too much damage there. If you pray mage, the deathslinger should be the only one dealing damage except for the occasional time when the bloodrager changes targets and punches a random guy. you WILL take damage during a ramokee, but it should be limited. what else, im pretty sure u know about gatestone trick. this is basically what learning in DG basically boils down to. as a DPSer, you need to learn how to eat less food (via soulsplit flashing, prayer management, safespotting, picking the right monster to attack) and learn how to do puzzles faster. other than that you can learn to key.

it's done there's not much the share. The spreadsheet's right there. the map program is hardcoded to my computer's resolution, so u might as well learn to code your own program, cuz ud have to tweak mine to get it to work anyways. The code is below, it's pretty brute force Printscreen the map, and click on the paint window until you have picture of the map you just screen shotted. other than that I have some code to make windows transparent and always on top. u can just google to figure out how to do that.

you can't share excel online. The point is that ppl can type into the google docs, and that information is instantly transferred to me. I don't need to memorize where all my gates are if ppl write it down for me

Was so eager to test out my new stuff, that I ended up dging with one of the newbiest teams i've gone with in a long while. god 33 mins and 4 deaths a person lol floor was straightforward But team was just horrendously slow. Mainly in the DG clearing aspect. Team also got owned on a ramokee + fire giant room, which really shouldn't happen. The team needed to learn proper safes potting procedure. But they did not so they actually took damage from the fire giant and bloodrager. Izenhime had some trouble with the flowers, but he learned afterwards. Sir squab complained about a netbook being slow and refused to help kill the boss after 4 deaths. yup, good stuff lol

link for the pplz: introducing the The DG Gate Sheet

What do you use to replicate the map like that, or is it just opening the map every so often, printscreen, and pasting in paint?? yes, except it's automated. I'm actually planning to paste it into googledoc-pictures so the image is available, and updateable by all members of the party.

feast your eyes on this :D