Ezkaton

Tbf why would someone want 99 thieving? The highest thieving level i could think that anyone would want would be around 53 (i think) for desert tresure, after that thieving has no practical use unless you spend hour after hour pickpocketing elves with 85 thieving to make some money. The only real skills you need to 99 to do everything is smithing, the combat stats, construction, runecrafting, and summoning.

It depends if you want 100% profit no matter what you make. If you buy the ores and just make the bars on a furnace then you'll get around 200gp profit per bar. If you buy the ores then smith the bars then make it into say mith daggers then i have no idea how much you'll loose but it'll be a hefty sum. If you mine the ores then you can do whatever you want with it and will never make a loss, though the time spent mining could be used else where unless you do like mining alot. And the final option is the superheat item spell as mentioned by pinguimmaiden, however you do loose 18gp per bar (that's if you have a fire staff and don't have to buy the fire runes and nature runes), and when you're 70 you'll only loose 1gp per addy bar.

with your level i'd say do what i did on f2p and smith mith at al kahrid. When i was your level it was about 600 mith bars till the next one, so i'd make 50K profit a time, other than that smithing the bars then the highest items you can make is always good exp.

right, so smith the bars with mage (it's the way i normally do it) and then take them to a furnace and use the bars with the mould to make the cannonballs........ right ok.......... where would you reconmend i do this? (and please don't say al kahrid, i detest the place after spending several days there getting both mining and smithing up >.<)

Haha, this may seem a nooby topic with my smithing and other levels, but...... I have been advised to smith cannon balls to get me to 85 smithing, and also they'll come in handy when i go to the dagannoths in the lighthouse for ranged (thanks you guys for the advice on ranged :thumbsup: ) so i was wondering, how actually do i smith them? I know i need to do the dwarf cannon quest, but other than that, do i just smith steel bars then take the mould to an anvil with the bars and smith them that way? or do i need to smith the bar then use the mould on the furnace? or what?

everyone has the best set up of the: neitznot helm ammy of glory fighter torso dragon legs dragon boots best RFD gloves/either rune or dragon charged gauntlets from FoG rune defender/obby shield and whip however no one said a cape, i recon you should wear obby cape, or if you have it a trimmed skill cape or a fire cape.

Based on your stats i recon either woodcutting or runecrafting

tabs and flax are pehaps the fastest way with your skills, I have 64 crafting and 64 mage, and still do tbs and flax to get me money (they're helping me get veracs for when i get 70 defence) :thumbup:

Blue dragons work a treat for me, i always seem to end up with what seems to be 1 charm per dragon :thumbsup:

I became a member about 2 months ago now :thumbsup: and have found that experiments in the frankenstrain dungeon give some of the best exp in the game (100 HP = about 404exp) however after i get my defence to 70 over the next few days i'll be sick of them, so i was wondering what would be an effective monster to train ranged on? or even how to use a cannon, and where would be most efficient to use it? I'm thinking of getting my ranged to about 70 maybe to 85 using iron knives. Any help would be much appreciated :) Thanks in advance Ez

I'd advise prayer, only because the cape looks pretty sweet trimmed and untrimmed, and also it's my second favorite skill

smithing till you get to level 88 is definately worth it because you can then make runite bars making 2K profit each bar (basing that figure on buying 1 runite ore, the amount of coal needed and a nature rune for superheat item). To be fair i'd agree with the super heat item part, however you'll make a loss on all bars until you do reach 85 (i currently do mithril bars this way and loose 18gp per bar, and when i reach 70 i'll loose 1gp per adamantine bar).

1 thing though, wtf is charged gauntlets? They were the worn out dragon gauntlets off the GE....... he got them charged at fist of guthix for around 50 tokens i think.

though my stats may be very nooby XD (my str is 53 btw so it isn't ranked, and my defence is now 65) I've recon you could. I had a friend who tried irons at my level....... it took him ages to defeat them, but he got a tonne of blood runes and a dplate legs........ what he wore was: Helm of neitznot proselyte armour antidragon shield ammy of fury obby cape and dragon boots and charged gauntlets. he also stocked his inventory with prayer pots (for protect from melee) and antifire pots (to reduce dragonfire damage to 0) Also he had a weapon with the stab attack (as they're weak to stab) So that's what i'd reconmend for you, though you'll obviously need less prayer pots......... also be careful of their long range dragonbreath.

Erm I'm not too sure where to fight them (only ever fought some once in taverly dungeon), but i've heard that anti fire pot, and anti dragonshield whilst praying melee make good and efficient combo....... and they shouldn''t be hard to kill with your levels

Even with my inferior range level, i'd advise the rune crossbow and mithril bolts....... the blue drags you can safe spot in the cave where the ogre shamans are during watch tower pay for the cbow and the bolts after the first inventory or so (based on you buying 2000 mith bolts and a rune cbow).

Hey, I'm quite new to the forums =) The reason i posted this topic was that i am currently wanting to get my smithing to atleast level 85, and i am wondering what would be the quickest and what would then be the most cost efficient way to get it there from 61 (my current smithing level)......... i have been doing the superheat item technique on mithril for some time, loosing 18gp per bar (maybe peanuts, but it all mouts up), and also it takes quite a while with being only able to smith 5 at a time. So any hints, tips and advice would be greatly appreciated =) Ez

It's a great guide..... now people could do with one for free players.