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Oh dear, never remembered Mahatma was such a [cabbage]. Flaming each one of his opponents, going red in the face for someone potting or using a prayer :mrgreen: He wouldn't last 5 minutes in today's RuneScape... His first PK vid was made during the golden age of PK'ing-- if he maged guys wearing rune, they'd immediately pull out an msb and some dhides and keep fighting. A couple years later, if you tried maging someone in rune, they would throw a tantrum and immediately stop the fight by teleporting or running away and would call you a "farcaster." It was frustrating to see how stupid the majority of PKers had become lol All those rules people make up. no safing (what? can't prevent your own death? what happened to the more you eat the faster you are out of food) Also that vid shows quite the stupid pk er, thinking his rules are the rules, whats up with prayer? he uses protect item....thats also prayer plus he uses boosting prayer and he uses boosting pots but he is against defense pots? I dunno but if I ever fight him i make sure to bring def pot. All those rules people make up. No monster-crashing ( What? can't kill the monsters yourself fast enough? ) No cannoning in single-area' s? Whats up with that? Cannons are also weapons. I could go on and on about this. People make up 'stupid unwritten rules' all the time. The unwritten rules about PKing were simply there to make sure either one gets the loot. How odd it may seem to other people. 'Safing' means you eat way too much food when you could have been relatively safe and dealt more damage. As Player killing is all about, y' know, killing and not eating an inventory with food and prayer pots and then just casually walking away from eachother like it was a tennis game, it makes more sence than it may seem. If you're in the wilderniss to survive, you don't fight other players. You're doing the wrong thing then. Everything aside. Someone should really close this thread. Everyone can clearly see that this monstrocity is steering way out of controll. With not much more to discuss than " I voted yes because bla bla" and " I voted no because bla bla" and the blatant fighting against eachother.

I smell a hypocrisy. I see the way we are selfish - we want YOU to play like WE want you to play. But .. if YOU want US to play like YOU want us to play ... that's not selfish at all ... ?! And no I do not imply that the wilderness should be safe. I imply that both sides are being selfish. Nobody wants anybody to play like they want them to play. Why does everyone look at this all black and white? Pkers want their regular 2007 wilderniss back. An area with little to no resources, and most quests will be relocated if the change comes through. It always amazes me when discussions get fierce, its always a 'skiller vs pker' debate. These solve about as much as 'Europe vs America' or 'Coloured vs White', or hell, 'Times new roman vs Helvetica'. People are still as rude as they have ever been. Wether it was 2004, 2006, 2008 or 2010. The only difference is that you had different communities you hung out with then. Pkers simply want their playstyle back. They dont want the entire world to become the wilderniss, nor do they want you to stop everything you like to do and only pk. Runescape isn't some facist regime where only one playstyle is available. Getting the wilderniss and free trade back simply gives more playstyles. Nothing threatening, nothing earth shattering for anybody who doesn't want to use it.

I voted yes. I left runescape due to the boredom of nearly no danger. Being able to be scammed or lose your items gives you personality. Ofcourse this breeds arrogance too. But lets be fair, people with high skills will inevitably get arrogant, as will every successful person. I would gladly return to runescape should this be reimplemented. I cannot see how one would be against this unless you do not use these features anyway. There will still be a GE to get supplies from. You can still monsterhunt or slay in peace. The only thing this does is add content that adds excitement and the feel of danger in it.

In your hypothetical situation, say the news service found my identical twin, who is not at fault. Or some guy 10 miles away that looks like me. Then they'd be responsible for what happened to the innocent individual. They'd be held responsible, sure. That doesn't and can't happen with Anon, which is another reason to dislike "them". Hmmm, so your thought behind it is that when wrongdoings are non-proscecutable, the potential wrondoers should be disliked. Fair enough. I respect your well explained opinion. Though I find it odd that the news would be held responsible for what individuals are doing based on the information they provide. But I find this matter to be less important and more of a straw arguement myself to start an arguement about. Moving on. I find this fitting to the subject at hand. Considering that the government is getting away with crimes and wrong actions without being able to be proscecuted or sanctioned. Anon does it through the veil of anonymousity, the government does it through their built up veil of secrecy. If Anon gets damage to their internet anonymousity through censorship or through forced ID's on the internet, they do whatever is in their might to try to combat that. Now the government is getting damage to their secrecy because documents are leaked out, they do whatever is in their might to combat that. Funny that two completely different entities operate so simular in terms of reacting to damaging their 'veil'.

Pretty sure a rational person would, you know, take those pictures to the POLICE I do not see what value this reply has other than to make my example look 'invalid'? I would gladly discuss your views on the matter. But please don't make straw arguements like this.

Are you saying that those with proof were targets of anon? EDIT: There's a story I read on the internet, an example given for what an actual DDOS is, instead of a DOS. A student at a university did not like a professor he had, and received a failing grade in his class. The student then went on several different websites, created various profiles for that professor (filling in everything), and then trolled with those profiles (posting offensive things on serious websites, mostly stuff about making and distributing kiddy porn). The professor's email started filling up. The professor began receiving hate mail, threatening phone calls. The professor had no idea why this went on, but could no longer live their current life or keep their job for fear of their safety (eventually had to change name and address). Everyone that participated in the "internet justice" didn't realize they were duped. Proof can be faked, easily enough. Anon, collectively speaking, has a mob mentality, and is because of this is unstable. Yes, indeed I do. Though I do not remember the name of the catmurderer, I do know the name of the girl. Jessica Slaughter ( although this case is debatable, however stupid she acted ). Which I'm sure you've seen. I'll make an hypothesis now, consider this. I spread a couple of pictures of you making children pornography, it shows both you, a camera, and whatever deeds you are filming. I send them to all kinds of people. The news brings out the adress of this person. What does the general populace do? Some of them go to that place of residence and start throwing in windows, waving torches and shouting deaththreats. Most of them just get angry but don't vent their frustration on you. This is what anon basically is. A general population, a couple of them thinking, a couple of them mindless drones. Just like your everyday population. The only difference is that they are completely anonymous and all come together on one messageboard. Infact, I believe that if I go to some random court and say a priest from a church bla bla molested me and I told more people about it without any source whatsoever. Than I would get more 'immature and extreme' responses from those people rather than some bored people who just F5 as a way of protest. Edit: I've been so kind to edit this post with your edit in it. It was originally posted without it. Though the point you bring up is interresting indeed, you can just as easily say that any large body of people has a mob mentality. Proof can be faked on the internet and you might recieve a couple of hatecalls, an email account completely spammed. However considering that proof can also be faked in the real world and can get you imprisoned wrongly for 25 years, I find that Anon is the least of my worries. The problem is that "Proof can be forged". The consequence is that mobs follow proof that has been fed them via whatever medium. Be it news, radio or a messageboard. These mobs are both regular everyday people, or anon.

Not intentionally, which is different than what they're doing. I fixed it, btw. I just plain don't like anon. If I don't log in again in 3 weeks, it'll be because anon DDOS'd me. Which aspect are you most displeased about? I'll give you a hypothetical. Furah, I just don't plain like you. I'm going to figure out your address, your place of work, find your IP address, and post it for anon. Good luck over the next couple hours, you'll likely to be terrorized by random people that only know of you because I told them you're "bad". I can feed them bull crap information too, like you abuse baby seals, and your torment will last that much longer. No, I'm not going to do that, but I hope you get the idea I'm trying to convey. As apolitical, anarchist or freedom-oriented anon thinks they are, they don't realize that they're just being used by someone else for precisely those reasons they hate the most. If you would base your knowledge on actual experience rather than unrational fear, then I would let you slip. However as you show signs of the latter, I will explain why you would not get randomly attacked. If I were to, say, make a thread on the gutter of the internet stating you killed cats, without any source. It would quickly get bumped away or flamed using 'Not your personal army' or 'No pic no proof'. The situation I will give as an example are the one which one kid brutally murders and maims a cat caught on tape, and a random girl acting like the queen ***** of the world. Both are on tape. Both are proof of them doing such things. In no way will anon attack someone randomly because some other anon says so. I could understand that you dislike anon because they are a stupid, mindless mass. But there is no reason to fear them if you don't act stupid.

I used to be around tip.it for a lot. Been a part of the OoC and all that. I played to have fun. There was some time where just fooling around seemingly transitioned into leveling. Levels started to mean everything. Skill capes. If you were good enough for dungeons ect. After my runescaping carreer I got into starcraft. I started watching the proleagues and started playing it to improve and all that. You feel pretty small amongst all the strong players who can vanquish you in the blink of an eye using just their shoelaces. It kept you humble. Obviously you would win a few matches in a row and you would feel on top of the world, then you would lose a lot again because you started to walk next to your shoes. Its a constant cycle in which humbleness and keeping your head cool would reward you with winning games. The community I frequent a lot is teamliquid. This site is HEAVILY moderated. You could sneak an ode to American greatness into North Korea more easily than trolling on that board at that time. Having felt both these communities ( Tip.it and Runescape for 3 years, Starcraft and Teamliquid for 1,5 ) I can now start to puzzle together the differences. NOTE: I will not claim either of these communities are superior to eachother; they are merely very different and thus cannot be compared. Its a given that when you have a lot of success, you will start to get arrogant. It happens to everyone. You get really good at something and you feel like the best until someone better pops along and shows you you are not. Runescape ala 2007 ( yes cliché, wildy bla bla crap ahead ) you had true dangers. Dying was punished with losing your items and you had to pay good attention to your trades. Nowadays Runescape you don't lose your items when you die in PvE ( I mean seriously, anybody can get to some place with 1 hour to get there ), trades are being automated and you cannot be scammed, and your skills obviously won't deteriorate. This means that you can only get higher. You get that 99 attack and you get that dragon armour. You get the constant sence of achievement without the feeling of loss. This breeds arrogance. Runescape aside. I see tons of people posting on all kinds of forums trying to prove their right to eachother. You post a comment and someone disagrees with it, you quote it and discuss/troll him back. Then he starts quoting and someone joins in, and soon the grave for the thread will be dug. I think that most people have to reflect every once in a while that they should be giving their opinion and feedback and then just leave it there. Obviously discussions arent bad. But its often the case that people can't just leave the discussion. They have to force their opinion down their disagree-ers throats until the 'opponent' resigns in their verbal conflict. As a final bit of reflection. The community has always been like this. People's memories are just tinted with roses about the times before this time. This is ESPECIALLY true for the Runescape community. For some reason this community is the most inclined to remeniscing the past. I believe there is no factor that decides wether a community will slowly rot. Its a powerful mix of different things which make a community deteriorate.

Excellent post zotto! I do have a firecape from long ago ( 14 attempts, got me from 70 to 80 ranged purely by fightcaves :D ) and I know how difficult it is to recieve one. However with all the new things we have compared to then it is much easier. Consider that diamond bolts (e) litterally eat up jad in a few shots, if you include the new sight that increases effectiveness by 15% in ranged now you should get even faster to jad if hes your slayer assignment. I did jad just for the fact that I could beat the strongest monster of rs at that time. The firecape was just an added benefit.

Only if the boobage increases strength by +1 :D

Players vs EVERYTHING, do other players not count as something? Where in the Kb, Rs website or anything Jagex has ever published does it say that? Familiars are to be used where ever the player feels like. If you look at quite a lot of Mage Bank/High Wild pker's videos you'll see that most of them have a tbird/tort/yak so it must give some form of help in pking situations. Except PvE means Players versus Enviroment, not Everything. Last time I checked. I wish summoning could be used more in a pvp context, but alas, the current only reason for it are duel tournaments. In PvE they're great, PvP, not so.

RWT's would just use an item that you can change, so lets say the goods change from snape grass to yew logs, the trader would cut the yews and drop them, thus negating the effect because the item ID is changed. If you were to go a step further and say put a restriction on doing anything with a bought item for 5 to 15 minutes, that would harm the game as you don't want to wait that rediculous amount of time before you can start herbloring those ( for example ) bought kwuarms into super strengths. Jagex has done a big load of things on botting already, they made it so that the minimap changes colours as soon as you move to another loading area. The tints change slightly, but enough to make a colour-click based bot stop working. I like the way that players design ways of making botting void. However, a tip for those who want to do so: - When you thought of something, try to think of a way around it. If there is an easy way around it the idea alone will not work. - If something you came up with is good, think to yourself if it harms the players. If it does, its a bad idea; see december 12th 07 ( no I'm not complaining, just giving an example ).

Haha. Yeah, the world would be perfect if you could just do that one thing and everything will be alright. I can come up with a way around this right now. After trading, just wait a few seconds until you are allowed to drop the items again. Its easy to program. If there is freedom of trade ( sort of ), then there will always be ways for real world trading or botting to exist. If you want to take away botting, you would have to kill the game in so many ways that would just be shadowed by the events of december 2007. We are talking about things like no trade at all. Only allowed one account, usable at only one computer. To defeat hackers, you would have to destroy everything hackable. AKA everything humanity ever accomplished.

79 hunter? Noob. Just kidding, nice bank ^^ something to be jealous of.

You should know that sailing in Lithuanian is -B-uriavimas. Just stopping by to jump the bandwagon.