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Oh dear, never remembered Mahatma was such a [cabbage]. Flaming each one of his opponents, going red in the face for someone potting or using a prayer :mrgreen: He wouldn't last 5 minutes in today's RuneScape... His first PK vid was made during the golden age of PK'ing-- if he maged guys wearing rune, they'd immediately pull out an msb and some dhides and keep fighting. A couple years later, if you tried maging someone in rune, they would throw a tantrum and immediately stop the fight by teleporting or running away and would call you a "farcaster." It was frustrating to see how stupid the majority of PKers had become lol All those rules people make up. no safing (what? can't prevent your own death? what happened to the more you eat the faster you are out of food) Also that vid shows quite the stupid pk er, thinking his rules are the rules, whats up with prayer? he uses protect item....thats also prayer plus he uses boosting prayer and he uses boosting pots but he is against defense pots? I dunno but if I ever fight him i make sure to bring def pot. All those rules people make up. No monster-crashing ( What? can't kill the monsters yourself fast enough? ) No cannoning in single-area' s? Whats up with that? Cannons are also weapons. I could go on and on about this. People make up 'stupid unwritten rules' all the time. The unwritten rules about PKing were simply there to make sure either one gets the loot. How odd it may seem to other people. 'Safing' means you eat way too much food when you could have been relatively safe and dealt more damage. As Player killing is all about, y' know, killing and not eating an inventory with food and prayer pots and then just casually walking away from eachother like it was a tennis game, it makes more sence than it may seem. If you're in the wilderniss to survive, you don't fight other players. You're doing the wrong thing then. Everything aside. Someone should really close this thread. Everyone can clearly see that this monstrocity is steering way out of controll. With not much more to discuss than " I voted yes because bla bla" and " I voted no because bla bla" and the blatant fighting against eachother.

I smell a hypocrisy. I see the way we are selfish - we want YOU to play like WE want you to play. But .. if YOU want US to play like YOU want us to play ... that's not selfish at all ... ?! And no I do not imply that the wilderness should be safe. I imply that both sides are being selfish. Nobody wants anybody to play like they want them to play. Why does everyone look at this all black and white? Pkers want their regular 2007 wilderniss back. An area with little to no resources, and most quests will be relocated if the change comes through. It always amazes me when discussions get fierce, its always a 'skiller vs pker' debate. These solve about as much as 'Europe vs America' or 'Coloured vs White', or hell, 'Times new roman vs Helvetica'. People are still as rude as they have ever been. Wether it was 2004, 2006, 2008 or 2010. The only difference is that you had different communities you hung out with then. Pkers simply want their playstyle back. They dont want the entire world to become the wilderniss, nor do they want you to stop everything you like to do and only pk. Runescape isn't some facist regime where only one playstyle is available. Getting the wilderniss and free trade back simply gives more playstyles. Nothing threatening, nothing earth shattering for anybody who doesn't want to use it.

I voted yes. I left runescape due to the boredom of nearly no danger. Being able to be scammed or lose your items gives you personality. Ofcourse this breeds arrogance too. But lets be fair, people with high skills will inevitably get arrogant, as will every successful person. I would gladly return to runescape should this be reimplemented. I cannot see how one would be against this unless you do not use these features anyway. There will still be a GE to get supplies from. You can still monsterhunt or slay in peace. The only thing this does is add content that adds excitement and the feel of danger in it.

In your hypothetical situation, say the news service found my identical twin, who is not at fault. Or some guy 10 miles away that looks like me. Then they'd be responsible for what happened to the innocent individual. They'd be held responsible, sure. That doesn't and can't happen with Anon, which is another reason to dislike "them". Hmmm, so your thought behind it is that when wrongdoings are non-proscecutable, the potential wrondoers should be disliked. Fair enough. I respect your well explained opinion. Though I find it odd that the news would be held responsible for what individuals are doing based on the information they provide. But I find this matter to be less important and more of a straw arguement myself to start an arguement about. Moving on. I find this fitting to the subject at hand. Considering that the government is getting away with crimes and wrong actions without being able to be proscecuted or sanctioned. Anon does it through the veil of anonymousity, the government does it through their built up veil of secrecy. If Anon gets damage to their internet anonymousity through censorship or through forced ID's on the internet, they do whatever is in their might to try to combat that. Now the government is getting damage to their secrecy because documents are leaked out, they do whatever is in their might to combat that. Funny that two completely different entities operate so simular in terms of reacting to damaging their 'veil'.

Pretty sure a rational person would, you know, take those pictures to the POLICE I do not see what value this reply has other than to make my example look 'invalid'? I would gladly discuss your views on the matter. But please don't make straw arguements like this.

Are you saying that those with proof were targets of anon? EDIT: There's a story I read on the internet, an example given for what an actual DDOS is, instead of a DOS. A student at a university did not like a professor he had, and received a failing grade in his class. The student then went on several different websites, created various profiles for that professor (filling in everything), and then trolled with those profiles (posting offensive things on serious websites, mostly stuff about making and distributing kiddy porn). The professor's email started filling up. The professor began receiving hate mail, threatening phone calls. The professor had no idea why this went on, but could no longer live their current life or keep their job for fear of their safety (eventually had to change name and address). Everyone that participated in the "internet justice" didn't realize they were duped. Proof can be faked, easily enough. Anon, collectively speaking, has a mob mentality, and is because of this is unstable. Yes, indeed I do. Though I do not remember the name of the catmurderer, I do know the name of the girl. Jessica Slaughter ( although this case is debatable, however stupid she acted ). Which I'm sure you've seen. I'll make an hypothesis now, consider this. I spread a couple of pictures of you making children pornography, it shows both you, a camera, and whatever deeds you are filming. I send them to all kinds of people. The news brings out the adress of this person. What does the general populace do? Some of them go to that place of residence and start throwing in windows, waving torches and shouting deaththreats. Most of them just get angry but don't vent their frustration on you. This is what anon basically is. A general population, a couple of them thinking, a couple of them mindless drones. Just like your everyday population. The only difference is that they are completely anonymous and all come together on one messageboard. Infact, I believe that if I go to some random court and say a priest from a church bla bla molested me and I told more people about it without any source whatsoever. Than I would get more 'immature and extreme' responses from those people rather than some bored people who just F5 as a way of protest. Edit: I've been so kind to edit this post with your edit in it. It was originally posted without it. Though the point you bring up is interresting indeed, you can just as easily say that any large body of people has a mob mentality. Proof can be faked on the internet and you might recieve a couple of hatecalls, an email account completely spammed. However considering that proof can also be faked in the real world and can get you imprisoned wrongly for 25 years, I find that Anon is the least of my worries. The problem is that "Proof can be forged". The consequence is that mobs follow proof that has been fed them via whatever medium. Be it news, radio or a messageboard. These mobs are both regular everyday people, or anon.

Not intentionally, which is different than what they're doing. I fixed it, btw. I just plain don't like anon. If I don't log in again in 3 weeks, it'll be because anon DDOS'd me. Which aspect are you most displeased about? I'll give you a hypothetical. Furah, I just don't plain like you. I'm going to figure out your address, your place of work, find your IP address, and post it for anon. Good luck over the next couple hours, you'll likely to be terrorized by random people that only know of you because I told them you're "bad". I can feed them bull crap information too, like you abuse baby seals, and your torment will last that much longer. No, I'm not going to do that, but I hope you get the idea I'm trying to convey. As apolitical, anarchist or freedom-oriented anon thinks they are, they don't realize that they're just being used by someone else for precisely those reasons they hate the most. If you would base your knowledge on actual experience rather than unrational fear, then I would let you slip. However as you show signs of the latter, I will explain why you would not get randomly attacked. If I were to, say, make a thread on the gutter of the internet stating you killed cats, without any source. It would quickly get bumped away or flamed using 'Not your personal army' or 'No pic no proof'. The situation I will give as an example are the one which one kid brutally murders and maims a cat caught on tape, and a random girl acting like the queen ***** of the world. Both are on tape. Both are proof of them doing such things. In no way will anon attack someone randomly because some other anon says so. I could understand that you dislike anon because they are a stupid, mindless mass. But there is no reason to fear them if you don't act stupid.

I used to be around tip.it for a lot. Been a part of the OoC and all that. I played to have fun. There was some time where just fooling around seemingly transitioned into leveling. Levels started to mean everything. Skill capes. If you were good enough for dungeons ect. After my runescaping carreer I got into starcraft. I started watching the proleagues and started playing it to improve and all that. You feel pretty small amongst all the strong players who can vanquish you in the blink of an eye using just their shoelaces. It kept you humble. Obviously you would win a few matches in a row and you would feel on top of the world, then you would lose a lot again because you started to walk next to your shoes. Its a constant cycle in which humbleness and keeping your head cool would reward you with winning games. The community I frequent a lot is teamliquid. This site is HEAVILY moderated. You could sneak an ode to American greatness into North Korea more easily than trolling on that board at that time. Having felt both these communities ( Tip.it and Runescape for 3 years, Starcraft and Teamliquid for 1,5 ) I can now start to puzzle together the differences. NOTE: I will not claim either of these communities are superior to eachother; they are merely very different and thus cannot be compared. Its a given that when you have a lot of success, you will start to get arrogant. It happens to everyone. You get really good at something and you feel like the best until someone better pops along and shows you you are not. Runescape ala 2007 ( yes cliché, wildy bla bla crap ahead ) you had true dangers. Dying was punished with losing your items and you had to pay good attention to your trades. Nowadays Runescape you don't lose your items when you die in PvE ( I mean seriously, anybody can get to some place with 1 hour to get there ), trades are being automated and you cannot be scammed, and your skills obviously won't deteriorate. This means that you can only get higher. You get that 99 attack and you get that dragon armour. You get the constant sence of achievement without the feeling of loss. This breeds arrogance. Runescape aside. I see tons of people posting on all kinds of forums trying to prove their right to eachother. You post a comment and someone disagrees with it, you quote it and discuss/troll him back. Then he starts quoting and someone joins in, and soon the grave for the thread will be dug. I think that most people have to reflect every once in a while that they should be giving their opinion and feedback and then just leave it there. Obviously discussions arent bad. But its often the case that people can't just leave the discussion. They have to force their opinion down their disagree-ers throats until the 'opponent' resigns in their verbal conflict. As a final bit of reflection. The community has always been like this. People's memories are just tinted with roses about the times before this time. This is ESPECIALLY true for the Runescape community. For some reason this community is the most inclined to remeniscing the past. I believe there is no factor that decides wether a community will slowly rot. Its a powerful mix of different things which make a community deteriorate.

Excellent post zotto! I do have a firecape from long ago ( 14 attempts, got me from 70 to 80 ranged purely by fightcaves :D ) and I know how difficult it is to recieve one. However with all the new things we have compared to then it is much easier. Consider that diamond bolts (e) litterally eat up jad in a few shots, if you include the new sight that increases effectiveness by 15% in ranged now you should get even faster to jad if hes your slayer assignment. I did jad just for the fact that I could beat the strongest monster of rs at that time. The firecape was just an added benefit.

Only if the boobage increases strength by +1 :D

Players vs EVERYTHING, do other players not count as something? Where in the Kb, Rs website or anything Jagex has ever published does it say that? Familiars are to be used where ever the player feels like. If you look at quite a lot of Mage Bank/High Wild pker's videos you'll see that most of them have a tbird/tort/yak so it must give some form of help in pking situations. Except PvE means Players versus Enviroment, not Everything. Last time I checked. I wish summoning could be used more in a pvp context, but alas, the current only reason for it are duel tournaments. In PvE they're great, PvP, not so.

RWT's would just use an item that you can change, so lets say the goods change from snape grass to yew logs, the trader would cut the yews and drop them, thus negating the effect because the item ID is changed. If you were to go a step further and say put a restriction on doing anything with a bought item for 5 to 15 minutes, that would harm the game as you don't want to wait that rediculous amount of time before you can start herbloring those ( for example ) bought kwuarms into super strengths. Jagex has done a big load of things on botting already, they made it so that the minimap changes colours as soon as you move to another loading area. The tints change slightly, but enough to make a colour-click based bot stop working. I like the way that players design ways of making botting void. However, a tip for those who want to do so: - When you thought of something, try to think of a way around it. If there is an easy way around it the idea alone will not work. - If something you came up with is good, think to yourself if it harms the players. If it does, its a bad idea; see december 12th 07 ( no I'm not complaining, just giving an example ).

Haha. Yeah, the world would be perfect if you could just do that one thing and everything will be alright. I can come up with a way around this right now. After trading, just wait a few seconds until you are allowed to drop the items again. Its easy to program. If there is freedom of trade ( sort of ), then there will always be ways for real world trading or botting to exist. If you want to take away botting, you would have to kill the game in so many ways that would just be shadowed by the events of december 2007. We are talking about things like no trade at all. Only allowed one account, usable at only one computer. To defeat hackers, you would have to destroy everything hackable. AKA everything humanity ever accomplished.

79 hunter? Noob. Just kidding, nice bank ^^ something to be jealous of.

You should know that sailing in Lithuanian is -B-uriavimas. Just stopping by to jump the bandwagon.

Wait, the Predators can one hit someone if your cloaked? I did not know that. Also AvP2 PWNS! Well, if you take in the fact that the only thing that uncloaks itself was to shoot, and that one shot could kill someone in a single hit, and even if it didn't you could always spam fire them again, then yes, they can one hit someone while you are basically cloaked. Again I want to press on the fact that in a game where you lose items, there shouldn't be any single way to 1HKO someone PERIOD. I don't care if you need to have 99 herblore, 99 magic, 99 strength, 99 prayer, 99 sailing and 99 smithing for the ability to. Yes you have worked for it, Yes, it is an awesome feat, No, you shouldn't become death itself where upon touch you kill someone. The problem isn't only herblore though, it is mainly the weapons that deal such gargantuan damage in the first place like the weapons only used for specing: Dragon claws and Dark bow.

No way in HECK this should have ever been allowed in dangerous PVP. All is fair, skillers deserve a good update, and I adore the way herblore gave it to them. But to be honest, if you really really really stand for being able to 1 hit someone with quite a margin who has a maxed hp bar, even if he has the highest defence bonus in the entire bloody game, then you shouldn't be talking. I stand for a fight, not a one shot kill. That is not pking, it is a cowardice action. The only game in which I have seen this much overpowering damage is in AvP2, where the predator could stealth, and instant kill someone with a 100% accuracy. Although I see no reason why they left it outside of safe pvp like castlewars. I wouldn't mind getting myself completely owned by a high hit in there.

*takes a humongously deep breath* [hide=TzHaar theory, before the graphical upgrade] TzHaar: Perhaps the biggest reference ever? Or Chaosvuistje: The biggest nutcase ever to log in on Tip.it Forums? --Warning, very long read.-- --Warning #2, lots of pictures --Warning #3, big speculation thread, those without imagination should be wary --Warning #4, lots of spoilers on the movies Aliens vs Predator, and Aliens vs Predator 2 Ive done some research on TzHaar and Predators before, twice, TvP, TvP2. Now, with the upcoming updates to TzHaar, Im back to lunge at the booze and try to make this article even more convincing (or at least entertaining :P ) Ive tried to use less vague pictures in this topic then my previous one. I hope they will suffice. First up, a tiny introduction about the two races. TzHaar, from Runescape - Habitat: Jungle, Deep under Karamja volcano. - Lifestyle: Fighting and hunting - Highest priority: Honour, Predator, or Yautja, From the Alien/Predator/AvP series. - Habitat: Jungle, temple built deep under Antartica - Lifestyle: Fighting and hunting - Highest priority: Honour. Now, onto comparing stuff. [hide=Minigames] Fight Pits. A sport among the TzHaar and Humans where they kill each other for TokKul and fun. Viewing orbs and Viewing device comparing: In the movie AVP, the Predator used this device to see if there were any enemies in the temple. In Runescape, they are used to look at fights and spot enemies. Also, the fight pits end in the same way as the Predators in AvP1 did. By getting overwhelmed with monsters and dying because of them. Fight Caves. This resembles the first hunt a predator must pass in order to be accepted into the Predator culture. When you kill the Jad, you will do a cheer emote. This might be a spoof to where a predator survived his trial. In fact, Predators often show off their prized kills by holding them up high in the air.[/hide] [hide=Tzhaar Npcs.]TzHaar-Xil, the agile hunter. Both using the rings as the TzHaar swords and knives. You might have notices the TzHaar-Xil go up into their environment very well, Theyre nearly unspottable, but still seeable. Predators have a cloaking device, they can cloak most of their body, but you can still see them, like the TzHaar-Xil. They use their rings both ranged-wise and melee-wise. Like the shuriken in the first AvP movie. Used both to shred through an alien head melee wise, and against the Queen ranged-wise. The highest ranked TzHaar are the TzHaar-Mej, They watch over the pits and the caves, and guide the TzHaar. Something similar in rank would be an Elder predator, which has done many fights and hunts. And is considered an expert at leading. TzHaar-Mej use a two handed staff. And they use them with both magic and melee. Strange that some Npc uses one weapon for two combat techniques. And there arent that much two-handed staffs around. The favourite weapon choice of a skilled Predator is the staff/spear, since it can do serious damage. Their magic attack is a massive blast of heat from far away distance, and a less big heat blast if nearby. Pretty much like a plasma caster, which Predators often charge if prey is far away. TzHaar-Ket are the big guardians. The ones wearing the most armour and the ones with the most strength. They are like the predators in AvP1. Which are all heavily armed, more so then most other predators, who only use a small amount of armour. Tz-Kih are the only flying TzHaar creatures. They could be compared to facehuggers, the only flying Alien( leaping, flying.. whatever floats your boat. ). In the fight caves guide, they are advised to be killed first. Pretty much like the Facehuggers. Since once they hit you, its game over. Tz-Kek, the clump of lava. Once you hit these with melee, you are bound to get hurt, like alien blood. The Acids in alien blood are able to burn through any organic matter and some metals. Also, once you kill one, two other small ones burst from the dead carcass. Chestburster anyone? Tok-Xil, this big guy has a powerful dart attack. The only reference I could find in him was that the darts look similar to the shot-gun like spear gun, which fires multiple darts at prey. Ket-Zek, the big frog with a charmander tail. Seriously shouldve gotten a more fearsome look <_<. Opinions aside. Ket-Zek use their tail to throw fire at you. Raise your hand if you think this is a reference to the alien who had his tail cut and used it to fling its acid blood at the Predator. *raises hand* Yt-Hurkot, the guys who help the big daddy out of trouble when going gets tough. These guys heal the Jad in a group after he is down to half HP. In AvP1, the tied Queen cries out for help, and other aliens sprint towards her. They free her from the chains she was tied in and Queen was good to go to mess up the Predators who did this to her. When they heal a light comes from above, like the light the last-standing Predator was in AvP1. TzTok-Jad, the creature that showed me whos boss 13 times. Make no mistake, this is the strongest and biggest TzHaar creature there is. The most prized for any TzHaar to kill. If you look at its design youd think you would be claimed a madman for comparing it to the Alien Queen. Im willing to try just that though. Not only is the Alien Queen the strongest and biggest Alien around, and obviously the most prized to kill for any Predator, it has some similar features to the Jad. Like his Melee attack, it pounces its head at you, just like the Queen did towards a water tank in AvP1. Both the Jad and the Queen have 3 [bleep]es on either side of their back. The Jad dies in pretty much the same way as the Queen did in AvP1, where if falls down, grasps the ground, bites one more time and splashes down in the water. Now if you swap splash of water with a splash of fire, youve got the same death sequence. Obsidian golem, an upcoming summoning creature. Ive tried hard to look for a reference here, since it does not lie in the looks of the creature itself, but the fusion of two others. Consider the picture below. Compared to. Oh yes, in my view, the PredAlien reference is coming to Runescape. And it better be powerful alright :P[/hide] [hide=Weapons and Armour.]The TzHaar and Predator have very simular equipment. A two handed staff: A knife: A throwing ring/disk: And both of their primary weapons, the sword for the TzHaar and wristblades for the Predator, have two very long blades. The colour of the TzHaar sword varies from most of the other weaponry. It being grey/metallic and the others more red/black. The fury amulet has a red light emitting from it. No other obsidian jewelry has this. And it is used to maximize the accuracy from your attack. Quite similar to the laser emitter on the Predators helmet. Which tracks prey down automatically. The berserker necklace has beads similar to the skulls on a Predators necklace. The more skulls on a Predators necklace, the more experienced he is with his weaponry. Hence why the Berserker necklace boosts the effectiveness of TzHaar weaponry. The ring of stone requires a bit of depth. When a TzHaar dies, he solidifies, in other words, he turns to stone. The Self-destruct mechanism on the Predators is in that way similar to the TzHaars Ring of stone. As it both kills the owner. The fire cape, worn by the best of the best, the mightiest of the mightiest. Strangely enough the only predator ever seen with a cape was an Elderpredator, which is the mightiest, and it was red. The Bracelet of Regeneration makes sure you have double the amount of hp healed compared to normal conditions. Incased in a Predators bracelet are medkits, which make wounds heal much faster.[/hide] [hide=Samuel Scourduel Part II references.] Probably a reference to the way Predators treated the Mayans, as cattle. Predators can use the language of humans too, although it isnt perfect english, often mixing both their languages and English when talking to humans. Reference to the steam/gas vents in the predator ships. they know nothing of crime, honour stands above all other virtues. Do I really need to explain that this is exactly like the Predators? Grand hall, like this? [/hide] [hide=Random references, not able to place them in any Category]TzHaar death, They fall to their knees and their arm rest on one of their knees. Could be compared to a Predator setting off their self-destruct mechanism TzHaar death > This picture can be compared to the cloaking device malfunctioning. The egg chamber, a massive nest, currently closed off to all Non-TzHaar. Perhaps the breeding place for future summoning pets. Let hope these dont lunge towards you and impregnate you with icky creatures. TokKul, the coins for the TzHaar, are made of their ancestors or kills. They symbolize honour, like skulls Predators collect to gain honour.[/hide] I think a lot of people remember this from me :P

This may come from a virus called Virut. It infects all the exe files it can get. If you have killed the virus and click on an infected exe, the mayhem starts all over again. Just make sure it doesn't wreck your computer like it did with mine.

Silly Norwegian.......We Danes got the å letter too :thumbsup: Ah, I was wondering whether danes had it.... do you have the word "Skål" though? Swedish uses å too. I think Norwegian and Danish are the only ones who use ø though. Skål, if I am correct, is either spelled 'skoal' or 'shoal', Don't take a dutchmens advice on norse languages though :P . Even though I'm quite good at swedish ( or so I think ) I can't really compete to any Norseman language wise. I love the cabbage update, heave to jagex :P. Oh, and for those who are wondering. I'm Dharockslayer, but I couldn't recover my password to this forum :( .