The Observer Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Following player feedback, we have decided that the new Herblore potions are having too much of an effect on PVP combat. Considering that making them requires a high level in a non-combat skill, players felt they had to increase their Herblore level to be able to make these potions, before they could effectively fight players of a similar combat level to themselves. It was not our intention to suddenly make PVP gameplay less accessible for the majority of players who had previously been enjoying it. As such, for now, the special restore, extreme attack, extreme strength, extreme defence, extreme ranging, extreme magic and overload potions will be disabled in the following areas:PvP Worlds (and Bounty/Bounty+1 variants)Castle WarsClan WarsDuel ArenaSoul WarsTzHaar Fight Pit We do still believe that these potions should be a fitting reward for those who attain a high Herblore level, so their effects remain unchanged when fighting NPCs outside of the areas listed above. They will still prove to be very useful when fighting NPCs – for example, dungeon and quest bosses, Slayer assignments, Pest Control, TzHaar Fight Cave, Barrows, etc. The potions also remain untradeable. If they were to become tradeable, anyone could buy them, so they wouldn’t be so much of a reward for those who have levelled their Herblore skill. 15-16-463-59698001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormfolk Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Good because it's overpowered in PvP :D Stormfolk | TRWF Clanfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langer Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Once again, the lazy players win. Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 Why release and then remove it a day later? Kind of annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InkofDeath Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Welcomed fix in my opinion. I don't play, but I can see how it made PvP cater towards those that invested more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Once again, the lazy players win. Could not agree more. To win you actually have to put some effort into training, so what if somebody else has the herb levels, they put the effort in to do it. It's much like the difference between somebody have a whip and an AGS in pvp, Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 Once again, the lazy players win. Could not agree more. To win you actually have to put some effort into training, so what if somebody else has the herb levels, they put the effort in to do it. It's much like the difference between somebody have a whip and an AGS in pvp, I agree fully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosoffar Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 They should've just removed the potions completely because it has no use now. Do people use super pots while monster hunting? Rarely.Yeah...It's called a speed boost. I use super pots almost always, when I stockpile extreme pots I'll prolly use them for slayer etc as well. Now if you're saying at god wars guess you have a point, space tends to be at a premium but might end up taking extreme attack instead of combat pots now. I could see the extreme pots making a difference at corp more so then most other bosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampjedi Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Ah, so again we see that a few whiny players have Jagex's marble pouch firmly in hard. My Goals and Achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suiku Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Why it's difficult to understand? Herblore aid to combat, it should have a combat level. If it doesn't gives you a combat level then it shouldn't be on PVP, period. Veteran Cape Owner (10 year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 They should've just removed the potions completely because it has no use now. Do people use super pots while monster hunting? Rarely.Yeah...It's called a speed boost. I use super pots almost always, when I stockpile extreme pots I'll prolly use them for slayer etc as well. Now if you're saying at god wars guess you have a point, space tends to be at a premium but might end up taking extreme attack instead of combat pots now. I could see the extreme pots making a difference at corp more so then most other bosses. It's mostly only good at Bandos when crashing, like what I meant with most bosses you need more hp boosting potions/items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999134 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 good, this update was unneeded. Skilling and pvp should remain separate. Check it out, huge amount of effort has gone into this massive mod![hide=old sig][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swampjedi Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Then let's just give everyone free copies of the best gear - after all, making money doesn't affect combat level. Geez, it's about the same as a freaking strength pure - they're stronger than they look. And really, who but the best are going to even have that high of herblore? Chances are you won't even meet someone who did. And frankly, if you did meet them, they'd kill you anyways because they have the cash for the best. I don't even PvP and this ticks me off. My Goals and Achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acenator Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 They should've just removed the potions completely because it has no use now. Do people use super pots while monster hunting? Rarely.Yeah...It's called a speed boost. I use super pots almost always, when I stockpile extreme pots I'll prolly use them for slayer etc as well. Now if you're saying at god wars guess you have a point, space tends to be at a premium but might end up taking extreme attack instead of combat pots now. I could see the extreme pots making a difference at corp more so then most other bosses. It's mostly only good at Bandos when crashing, like what I meant with most bosses you need more hp boosting potions/items.You forget that, in being able to kill the boss faster with these potions, you, theoretically, save food each kill. It might take a while to figure out if that will actually play out in reality, but if they're as good as I'm hearing, these potions could very well do the trick. > SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0;0 rows returnedThere's no place like 127.0.0.1There are only 10 types of peoplein this world: those who understandbinary and those who don't.This statement is false.$DO || ! $DO ; trytry: command not found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Wow, Jagex cave in well to easily. EDIT Have they put the D bow spec back to 55% now? [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Why it's difficult to understand? Herblore aid to combat, it should have a combat level. If it doesn't gives you a combat level then it shouldn't be on PVP, period. Does that GS bought from making money through RC aid to combat? Does the whip gained through slayer aid in combat? Everything aids in combat now days, but it should not be removed just because it helps combat. The whole point in having a rounded account is that it has an advantage over those who don't bother to train, simple. Annoys me so much that just because people have to step outside of pvp to get an advantage in it, it should be removed. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdman7 Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 So I wonder how much this will slow the upward trend on herbs... now that I've bought hundreds of seeds... <_< *******"All that is gold does not glitter..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I'm a little torn here. On the one hand, why shouldn't people with 96 Herblore have an advantage? Isn't it somewhat similar to one player having 91 Runecrafting? On the other, I can see how Herblore could have become the new cool PK'ing skill to have, next to 99 Strength or Magic. It's disappointing, cause I can't see a legitimate use for the Overload potion now. Maybe solo tribrid DKs, but that's it. I think it's mostly upsetting that the highest level potion, which was arguably a PVP potion, is now moot. EDIT: I have to agree with this: Does that GS bought from making money through RC aid to combat? Does the whip gained through slayer aid in combat? Everything aids in combat now days, but it should not be removed just because it helps combat. The whole point in having a rounded account is that it has an advantage over those who don't bother to train, simple. Annoys me so much that just because people have to step outside of pvp to get an advantage in it, it should be removed. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 It's disappointing, cause I can't see a legitimate use for the Overload potion now. Maybe solo tribrid DKs, but that's it. I think it's mostly upsetting that the highest level potion, which was arguably a PVP potion, is now moot.You need to remember its a maxed boost for a full 5 minutes, it doesn't drain during this time. Which makes it ideal for those who have money to spend on boss hunting. Imagine how fast kills at solo zammy/bandos with 125 defense, strength, attack for a full 5 minutes would be. Tribryd DK's does seem like the best and most useable location, but I would guess at TD's being another possible location (since you have to switch attack styles). [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSxqPowerx Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 [bleep]ing terrible decision to remove them... Finally a good update and then it's torn away.An extra 7 levels in melee stats was not going to massively unbalance pvp. And not even in castle wars/clan wars???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezz Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Removing them from minigames is taking it a bit far... [insert birds flying in a circle here]Yes, that sig was annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meb Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 They should've just removed the potions completely because it has no use now. Do people use super pots while monster hunting? Rarely. Rofl. I use super potions doing the following things: Corporeal beast, Zilyana, Bandos, DKs and any form of combat training. 89 Herblore just to be able to compete when PKing is too high. Herblore is one the most expensive skills to train in the game. So is prayer (and getting piety) but 70 prayer is a lot less hard to get than 89 herblore. And it also adds combat levels. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shovelmeface Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Excellent decision... <_< Disadvantage high level herblore players who have 99 for no reason now, good job. :wall: <_< 99 Attack - Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DialgaPoke Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Why can't Jagex think of these things BEFORE they release an update? :mellow: Reminds me of the pvp/bh world protection prayer update.. #-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaanniiellh Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Well overload potions are also useful with Sara Brews right now. The drain from the brew only lasts for around 5 seconds before your stats pop back up to what you were boosted to.~Dan : 1437 : 173Lowest Combat to 1,000 Total in F2P (23 Combat)Check me out on YouTube! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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