Wessan

Everyone hush about the "bug" or else we will have roll back

I disagree with the analogy. It is more suited to where the USA economy is going rather than what it was in the 1980s. During that time, the baby boomers were in the middle of their 30s which gave a large workforce to America, which in turn produced a strong middle class. Today, the strain of the baby boomers on federal programs such as medicare, social security, etc, combined with a lower number of people in the workforce (percentage wise) will create the rift you describe. However the rich will always get richer because there are two things in business that will never change: Gotta have money to make money, and the law of compound interest makes money grow if you have more. So if you have alot of money, youre able to make it grow alot faster than someone who doesnt.

Damn, aight. Thanks for the info

How long does it take Vial packs to regenerate in shops, seems to take way too long. Anyone know specifics?

This has been going on for far too long. I am tired of noobs in lumbridge basement asking about how to get into the Dorgeshun mines or why Im standing there making potions. Just stop. Read a guide. Do something useful with your time. Stop bothering me. I guess i could turn public chat off, but oh well. This is a rant and therefore I can say whatever.

I have always been a fan of Treasure Trails, but i have noticed the lack of value in recent rewards. For example today I got a Clue Scroll from an Iron Dragon and I had to do 3 puzzle boxes during it. REWARD: Rune Dagger, 3 Black D'hide Bodies, and Rune hatchet. Ultimate Fail.

But the World Cup is effing awesome.

I feel like Obi-Wan waiting in the red barriers to slay Darth Maul, except Darth Maul in this case is a bunch of cave crawlers (fail)

Yea, definitely annoying when I have CAVE CRAWLERS to kill, gosh!!!!

I wonder if they were having some problems with that Demo version of RS because I thought they removed that for good, and yet it was up earlier today.

Anyone else experiencing an inability to login right now?

Anyone know approximately how long it takes to use the charges on a black mask? Or is it so random no one knows?

Some of posts here have been helpful in explanation to me and some were dumb. Thanks. The question now is when to sell my stock piles, Will we see a rise again soon?

Damn, I really dont want to cook all my fish. Especially since I have 99 cooking already. But if cooked fish rise, raw will most likely do the same.

I consider myself to be a fisherman in RS and it is a way i have made income for a long time. Recently (in the past month) I have seen fish prices drop fairly dramatically and I dont know why. Did I miss some update that allows people to go into combat without food ever? Sara brews ya, but they wont replace food on a normal basis. What is up with the Fish recession?

Thank you for the speedy fix, I brought it up because the bottom does explain how to get the 350% bonus but does not say the calculator assumed the player was using it.

On the Prayer Calculator under the "Gilded Altar" drop down the calculator options say "(Altar)" next to all the bone choices; however it does not say that the calculator is taking into account burners unless of course you do the math of exp*3.5. I think this should be corrected because I thought (Altar) meant only the altar. [Crew edit: The calculator mentions the conditions at the bottom of the calculator, but I have gone ahead and clarified the dropdown menu title to clarify this. :thumbup: - Speedyshel]

Runescape is caught between two ages at the present moment: the first is the medieval age of knights, armour, and merchants.; the second is the economic advancement seen in the grand exchange. The grand exchange can be used as a tool to gain items or as a ruler to gauge the value of something like a stock market. These two worlds will continue to grow apart as the economy changes and so do the items introduced to the game. The question is where is the economy to go? Rampant inflation is seen through the advancements of the Grand Exchange and there is no control over the influx of money on the Runescape economy, so how do players who cannot keep up with inflation advance their characters without having to sacrifice time they may not have to give? The answer lies in history, specifically, Britain's history. The English system of credit changed the way the world economy worked over 400 years ago and I assert it is time for Runescape's economy to incorporate credit. A system of credit not only would allow for players to eventually attain items over time if they could not afford to get it all at once, but would also allow the creditors to earn money. This would not need to be a new skill, but just a feature incorporated to the game through the pre-existing Runescape bank system. Who here has a few million lying in their bank that you are saving or don't know what to do with? Well, want to turn it into more money while you concentrate on getting 99 Runecrafting? Of course you do. So Jagex could create a feature in the bank that allows players to set aside so much money to be loaned to other players, which in turn, those players (the debtors) must pay back with a modest interest rate. This allows you to make money literally without doing anything except a few clicks. Would Jagex like that? Probably not, but what they may not realize at first is that this system could potentially cut down the amount of coinage within the game and lead to a decreased price in some items and a larger quantity of trade for really high priced items like rares. Some players may not like that, but it would allow for those items to not simply disappear with high level quitters who cant find a buyer for their 6 party hats. Okay so, what I have proposed so far is a system of credit between all players of Runescape used from multiple bank accounts all across Runescape so everyone gets a piece of the pie. Obviously if you have more money, you have potential to make more, unless Jagex would decide to cap the amount allowed to be loaned out. This means when someone takes out a loan it uses funds from multiple players and allows for many people to get a little richer and not just one person. However, this same system could work on personal loans from one player to another, but once again through the bank system. The creditor puts up so much money for a friend who wants an item and the debtor eventually pays the bank, plus interest, and that money is then sent to the creditor. How would this system work in say the Grand Exchange? Player Trade? or even in higher end shops like the guilds who offer dragon items (even though they are obsolete)? 1.) Grand Exchange: So you want to buy a Bandos Chestplateand it costs 25mil. You don't have 25mil. Well, you enter the Grand Exchange and "exchange" with the teller. Then you find the BCP, and pick out a loan option. Of course as with any loan, you must make a down payment, say 20-25% of the full cost, which means you need about 5mil to begin with. Once you pay this, the item is yours... as long as you keep making payments. These payments would be assessed based on the amount owed and how long the loan is for. Continuing the BCP example, you've paid 5mil on 25mil, you owe 20mil. Say you can make 5mil a month (very easy to do), and you get a loan for 6 months. This gives you time to make the money plus interest, and if you make more, hell you get to pay down the principle. This loan could be longer depending on the ability of a player to have time to play, etc. 2.) Player Trade: So you're on World 2 and there's a guy selling a Santa Hat for 95mil and doesn't mind giving you a loan to pay him back over time. Y'all head to the bank or Grand Exchange and as I kinda already stated make the terms of your loan, debtor makes a down payment and agrees to interest terms. The debtor gets the item that day and continues to make payments over time. Simple loan. 3.) High End Guild Items: Although I already stated these are pretty much obsolete, they are worth mentioning in case Jagex releases an item in the manner like the dragon square, or dragon battle axe. These items would have loans that go directly into the NPC's pockets, meaning that money would not be seen again until it somehow comes from a dead monster. Same rules apply except you pay the bank instead of players. Financing these items through players is an option but it would be in Jagex's interest to make a loan through the bank itself. So the big question is, just as real world creditors/bank have to ask i what happens if someone fails to make payments? Simple, apply the real world rules. First missed payment: warning plus extra interest fee. Second missed payment, recall of the item and bank sale of items within the debtor's bank in Grand Exchange to pay the other players back for the loss of funds. This presents a problem with an easy solution: How does Jagex determine which items to sell off from a bank if the item loaned is not paid for? The debtor offers items of collateral that can be taken in the event of loss of loaned item through "seizure" because of missed payments. Please critique and offer suggestions. I understand this is quite a radical suggestion and that for the timeline of many Runescape players it is difficult to think of "long-term" loans, but it is possible.

Well, thank you all for that. I just think it is dumb that if a person is stupid enough to let themselves die say in the rock caverns while fishing, their stuff should be fair game. Oh well

Okay, I looked around the site and on the RS site, and I cannot seem to find a guide to what happens when you die in RS. I know you keep 3 items etc, Ive been playing for awhile. My question really is what determines your gravestone, and what can you do to get other people's stuff when they die?

Updating again. If they keep doing this, they will crash rs forever, jk.

Although a bit off topic now, I finally am able to log on since new update. I wonder what happened with the log in situation.

QFC :15-16-279-60433855 Thanks for that. I hope they fix this soon. I've now tried everything they suggested in that message and still I can't even load up the login page. :roll: Same, Ive created a new directory, reloaded every software and still cannot play. This is ridiculous.

But why did it happen on a saturday? they never really update anything on weekends

Saw it happen too while i was training attack. My character did an idle movement where he looked at his armour after it happened.