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Much appreciated. If you could choose, what MBTI result would you pick as your favorite? Ciao

Eh, only sometimes. I like to look at all sides of a story, and try to get all the facts before I go and make a decision. As far as being an "E" the best way I heard it described is: "Someone who's batteries get recharged by being in a crowd, party, or just hanging out with people." Now, for an "I" it's usually: "Someone who needs some quiet time alone, maybe with some music or a book to recharge their batteries." I had a counselor at Spark the Wave who was an "E" but you would NEVER guess it. One of the other staff mentioned that he usually spends about half an hour or so each night just sitting with his iPod and reading. Ciao

I'll assume those questions are directed at me, so I'll try to answer them. Intuitive imagination... Not 100% sure what you mean by such, but when I'm just letting my mind wander, I tend to build stories. Sometimes these are completely constructed by me. Sometimes they're things I imagine might happen in stories I've read, after the books have ended. If I'm teaching you something and you just can't seem to grasp it? I'd try a few different methods, and if none of them worked, I'd teach downward. This mean, instead of just say "Add 5 eight times for "Five times 8"" I would go something more like, "Ok, take "5" and then add "5" more. Now you've multiplied "5" by "2" because you added it twice. Now add "5" again..." etc... If that didn't work, I'd probably go ahead and just keep trying at other methods. Ciao

With me, "E" and "I" as well as "F" and "T" are pretty balanced as well. Most people who meet me in real life would never believe I'm an "I" and usually I tend to be rather balanced in emotion and judgment. Ciao

I'm an INFP. Well, I didn't do the test in the site, but a Youth Leadership camp I went to (Spark the Wave, Villanova University) had everyone do the Meyers Brigg Test Indicator, and that's what I got. (Heh, I haven't even read the first post, I was redirected here by EarthySun's Signature link.) Ciao

My apologies for not reading all the posts, but there's nine pages of them, so if I say something already said, just roll your eyes at me. The way I see it, Wikileaks should be allowed to operate in the states without harassment. There's this silly little thing called the "First Amendment" that should sort of protect them. As long as they remove any nformation that might compromise an espionage or military operation, I see no reason that the public cannot see what their government has in those cabinets. If the information won't cause deaths to people, and as I understand it Wikileaks avoids releasing information as such, then where is the problem occurring? I find the fact that the government(s) hide this information scary. They obviously have no trust in their citizens that I can see. You can't be trying to bring about peace, and prepare for war at the same time. It just doesn't work that way. There's many issues that overlap with this one, but I don't feel like writing a novel for you. My thoughts, yes, Wikileaks is in the right, and any information released by them is something the government should have released first. Ciao Yeah, I'm that annoying guy who posted "Ciao" after all his posts before, and I'm lurking a bit now.

Well, it could end up being some good money makers for F2P. Good money makers, yes... Maybe... But his motives are greedy, and despicable... I do not want an update like that added, when the reasons are as such... Besides, with the number of F2P people that would eventually be doing these for money, the prices of all of these items would plummet, pretty much breaking the game. 99 prayer would mean nothing, and other skills using these items would be looked at in the same was as Fletching and Cooking. Ciao

Number 8 is just pathetic... You want to make it so that F2P can do YOUR collecting, so that YOU don't have to pay as much for YOUR items? Hell no. If F2P can't use them, then don't let them get a hold of them... Now, if F2P could use them, I would not complain, but if it just so that P2P can get their items for lower prices, then no way. That's just being greedy. Some of the others seem to be pretty good though. I support 1, 7, 9, 12, 14. Ciao

Simple, elegant, and doesn't break the game. Support. Ciao

Probably her avatar and the fiesty debating style she has. Its a bit...fwoar! Ok, that made me laugh so hard that my mom thought I was having a heart attack... Still though, no one thought that they were making the Achievement diaries to easy when those are broken into levels... Did they? Erm........*cough* thank you.......I think, and Jrhairychest, you call me feisty?????? Lol :blink: I have to say your comparison with achievement diaries is irrelevant, they are entirely separate. Achievement diaries are clearly set out in stages of easy, medium and hard tasks (and 'elite') and only one provides a cape., they are a different way of enjoying the game. The quest cape is a single overall achievement, the same as a 99 skill cape, although with the new quest I am wary of even that comparison lol. As for your point about it taking 6 months to prepare, thats great! It would be dreadful to max out on all skills and achievements within 6 months of playing rs, now there is an opportunity for higher level players to have something new and novel to achieve. All of rs is designed so every player can play in the way that best suits them, this means that some may choose to never go for quests, as you have chosen. It appears that as soon as something comes out that is hard or takes a long time to achieve people complain, because they want it and want it now.......do I sense toys being thrown out of a pram here? Allow something for other players and stop asking for everything to be easy, or breaking down the quality of something. The quest cape is gradually being seen as one of the biggest chievements for a player and if poeple want to show off, thats fine...it is only a game, showing off is allowed :thumbsup: Having 'sub-category' quest capes would not work and is a backward step, players would only ever admire the final cape, there are skill capes if people really want a cape and don't have the levels or confidence to get the quest cape. This isn't really about the Achievement Diaries, I just used that as an example. Also, for the record, I am not for having the game get "Easier" or anything... There's private servers for that kind of thing. -.- Honestly, I just can't help but remember when I was a poor little noob (Ok, when I was more of a poor little noob) and I thought that wearing Mithril was a great thing... Now we have so many other updates, and the game is becoming "Fuller" and I just think that minor achievements are not a bad idea. Honestly, would it make a huge difference in the game? No... We'd be adding a few new items, and making it so that there is the possibility for expansion into that area. Would it hurt the players with the Quest Cape? No, because they would still have it. Quests are broken into different tiers for no obvious reason. I mean, I know level 3s that can do some of these "Intermediate" quests without breaking a sweat. There have been level 3 members who have done Dragon Slayer! These are mostly minor achievements though. Now, if the system that is ALREADY IN PLACE was used more heavily, then that can only be a good thing, the way I see it. Still open for any other points of view. Ciao

Even using Lunar spells? O_o That seems rather dumb. Ciao

It's not favoritism if it is a majority vote, is it? This would not be the choice of the staff, unless a staff member has been voted into this group. Why? I mean, if this is something that you have to prove yourself as, and then it is voted on where no one but people that have already been accepted, what would you complain about? Also, just make it so that you cannot ask to become a Trusted Member, and if you do, you lose all chance. Asking HOW to become one is different, obviously. Also, perhaps there would be certain chances, like if it's obviously a new member, and the staff member honestly thinks that they don't know that by asking to become one, you get blacklisted, then perhaps that will be their one get out of jail free card, regarding that. Make it so that this is a position of prestige! Look for people who are mature, and helpful, and really know their Runescape stuff (This is a Runescape site, after all) and let that be the baseline of their rank. IF they abuse it, they're out faster than you can say "STEEEERIKKKEEEE THREEEEEE!!!!" and they don't get another chance. [hide] Random_Person1: Someone else got to be Trusted Member and I'm not... Make me one or I'll leave!!! Staff_Member: Sorry, but the people who are made into Trusted Members are voted on, and to become one you have to show certain qualities, such as maturity, Runescape knowledge, and general helpfulness. By sending this PM, you obviously don;t have the first or the third. Quit if you want, but please remember that I don't control who is a Trusted Member or who is not. Random_Person1: Then who do I have to ask to be one? Staff_Member: If you ask to become a Trusted Member, then you will automatically be stripped of all chances of becoming one... [/hide] How does that look? Seems alright to me... Ciao Even if the user would take it so calmly as that during discussing it with the mod/admin, when the staff member tells them that last bit that's the point at which the user would explode. And anyway, this violates the principle that Tip.it is moderated with principles. This goes way into the specific rules and loopholes territory. Well, then the principles of this group are that it is for people who have proven themselves mature, and thoughtful. Name it "Mature Members" if you want, as proof. And if someone is asking to get added to this group, then they're obviously not mature enough to be in it anyways. Obviously staff would have access to this group's forums, because no matter how mature someone is, there's always the chance that they'll change, and need some true moderating. This would also be something that would be asked, not ordered. Just like staff (I presume) are asked to be accepted, before the official announcement, these people would have the option to turn it down at any time. Make this a group that people want to be in, because other people look up to, as mentors, and guides. Let these people be the true representatives of what a true member of Tip It will act like. Make these people the example, and give them a feeling of pride, in their position. Let them know that they're an example, and that they are the ones who have to show the other members a good idea of being kind, and warm. Let them be the people that guests see posting, and think "Hey, that guy's really cool.. I wanna meet him, and ask him some questions." and have them join as well. Let them be the people that everybody thinks of with a smile, and a warm fuzzy feeling. (Not me, obviously!) That's just what I think... Ciao

Probably her avatar and the fiesty debating style she has. Its a bit...fwoar! Ok, that made me laugh so hard that my mom thought I was having a heart attack... Still though, no one thought that they were making the Achievement diaries to easy when those are broken into levels... Did they?

Hmm.. This is true, and with it, I'll give up my debate about it, as I can see I can't win, in this case. On a separate note of irony, trying to post on this topic again was my first run in with said Filter. Ciao

Why? I mean, if this is something that you have to prove yourself as, and then it is voted on where no one but people that have already been accepted, what would you complain about? Also, just make it so that you cannot ask to become a Trusted Member, and if you do, you lose all chance. Asking HOW to become one is different, obviously. Also, perhaps there would be certain chances, like if it's obviously a new member, and the staff member honestly thinks that they don't know that by asking to become one, you get blacklisted, then perhaps that will be their one get out of jail free card, regarding that. Make it so that this is a position of prestige! Look for people who are mature, and helpful, and really know their Runescape stuff (This is a Runescape site, after all) and let that be the baseline of their rank. IF they abuse it, they're out faster than you can say "STEEEERIKKKEEEE THREEEEEE!!!!" and they don't get another chance. [hide] Random_Person1: Someone else got to be Trusted Member and I'm not... Make me one or I'll leave!!! Staff_Member: Sorry, but the people who are made into Trusted Members are voted on, and to become one you have to show certain qualities, such as maturity, Runescape knowledge, and general helpfulness. By sending this PM, you obviously don;t have the first or the third. Quit if you want, but please remember that I don't control who is a Trusted Member or who is not. Random_Person1: Then who do I have to ask to be one? Staff_Member: If you ask to become a Trusted Member, then you will automatically be stripped of all chances of becoming one... [/hide] How does that look? Seems alright to me... Ciao

You obviously have not thought out your statements above, "it just takes time and effort" applies to achieving any 99 skill cape! The point is; 99 should be hard to achieve, it is senseless for new players to be able to get the highest level in a skill quickly (although of course cooking, fletching etc are the usual ones). As for if people knew how easy herblore was, it would change the price of pots.....do you think people don't know how to do herblore? Of course its easy, but people play the game the way they want to (mostly), as for making money on RS that is easy to....but guess what? All it takes is time and effort, now there's a surprise! Please don't treat people like they are idiots, there is hardly anything secret about making money, if you can be bothered. And don't patronise posters on this thread, it's the next best thing to 'flaming'. I know I am entitled to my opinion, remember this is a 'debate' forum, as you are entitled to yours and I respect opinions that are well thought out and considered. I like the idea that the quest cape will only be accessible to long term, high skilled players, it is only right that some things become harder and harder to achieve, it gives more motivation and incentive (except for people like yourself who want everything so easy), please note I did post a thread a while back asking "How easy do you want it" and you are a classic example of the kind of player I had issue with. The new quest cape is for high level dedicated players and I am delighted that Jagex have done some hard updates for those players. Some people will never achieve it (possibly I may be one of them) but so what? If I want to I can work towards it and I think I will eventually. You may be trained in logic (who goes around posting something like that on a thread? weird!)....it doesn't necessarily make you good at it, and somewhere you appear to have lost common sense. If there is nothing left once a player has achieved 99 in most skills how disappointing that would be, I think it is entirely selfish for players to object to updates that are harder to achieve and need high level skills. Hmm... [/chuckle] I like you, for some reason I can't seem to name... Firstly, when I was saying "It takes time and effort" I was pointing out that most people look at a skill like Herblore and freak out at the idea of getting 13,000,000 experience in it. But I have talked to a number of people who have put lots of effort towards Herblore. I even know someone who has 99 Herblore, and she managed to get it, make money, and according to her it was easy and fun. Now, she won't tell anyone how she did it, and so that makes it so that people have a harder time getting experience in Herblore without getting angry and saying how it's a dumb, slow expensive skill. For the record, I'm not a member. I have been, but I don't plan on being a member much. I don't like quests in general but that's me. I don't plan on ever getting a quest cape not for a minute. The whole idea of capes just annoys me. There are easier ways to show off that you have achieved mastery in a skill than adding an utterly useless piece of clothing. Sure, the cape can look pretty cool and all, but there are better capes, with better bonuses, that you can get with far less effort (Fire Cape for one...) yet people see a skill cape, and just freak out, and assume that the person with it is some awesome master of Runescape. Sans the Cooking and Fletching and such capes. But even then, you meet a noob, and they think you're god, because you have some piece of cloth on your back that has a picture that can be found with no effort, and lets you do some fancy movements. Why would anyone want one? Ok, for a skill such as Prayer, or Summoning, that is a simpler way of showing you managed to get to the maximum level, without having to constantly quick-chat to prove it. But other than that, why wear it? Because these people want attention. There are plenty of people who have achieved far more than some member with three or four skill capes. Look up "Water is Nat" in the high scores. He is a fully maxxed out F2P player. He has never been a member in his life. This means does not get a skill cape and so he has to put up with showing off with Quick Chat, but he is PROUD that he has not been a member. He revels that he has mastered far more than most members, yet skill does not have access to most of their items, and goodies. Yes, this is all his choice, but it shows that a cape is just some fashion fad. How many people get a few million gold, and then become a member for a month just to get 99 Fletching, or Cooking, and then get the cape, so they can show off to all their F2P buddies? Why do all these capes exist? Why, why, So, if the Quest cape becomes a cape that requires real effort, real perseverance, and real moxy, then fine... It is a good cape. But if it reaches the point that you have to spend six months just preparing for, and then you have to spend another three months doing nothing but quests, doesn't that seem overkill? Oh, and thanks for calling me weird. I am weird, and I like it. If I call you weird (Not strange, mind you... Different case) then usually I mean it as a compliment. Sorry if that seems a rant... Just trying to get all my feelings across. Ciao

Sorry if I sound a little... Out spoken, but would it not be possible to set it so that after X number of posts, a person is moved to a new user group? It is possible to do this without making any changes that normal people can see. I've played with a number of forum boards, but not this version, so I can't be 100% this is possible. Even adding a requirement of 100 posts would be very effective to stop most ad bots. Also, when a topic or post is reported, is it made invisible, until staff (Moderator) has cleared it? If not, this would make it much easier to combat such problems. Again though, I'm not sure what your limitations are. If ad bots, or massive spam attacks have been a large problem in the past, then I can see how this is being kept as it is. But if there have not been many recent attacks that were not easily handled, perhaps this limit is a tad much. Sorry if it sounds like I'm trying to tell you how to do our job.... Just trying to be helpful. Ciao The flood limit is set forum wide and can not be changed per user group, the only option per user group is to have it off altogether. So while it would be possible to get a person moved to another user group, we can't have that user group with a lower flood limit, otherwise that's what we would have done. Then perhaps have it so that select people, decided upon by staff, are moved, silently, and without any notice, to a new user group, when you are sure that they're not spammers. Thanks for answering so quickly. Ciao

Perhaps have it only for Ex-Staff members, or people that have turned down staff positions? If people had turned down staff nominations, this means they aren't suitable for the responsibilities that go with the role of staff. Moderators are generally community leaders - if someone is not deemed suitable for a community leader, odds are they are not suitable for 'special treatment' or whatever from this new proposed usergroup. Still have no support for this idea. Sorry about resurrecting it, I noticed the last post was in December, and didn't think to look much further than that. I simply thought that the idea had merit, and had not been discussed in full yet. When I say "people that have turned down staff positions" I mean someone that has been asked if they would want to be staff (Since my understanding is that they are asked, not ordered) and turned it down, if only because they don't want that responsibility. Also, when first deciding on who would be the first "Trusted Member" you could have your staff members post a list of people they think would be acceptable, and then have a vote on the top 15 people. Then you just let those 15 decide on if there is anyone who has proven that they are mature enough to be give such a title. Ciao

I like that idea. Maybe we can have low level skillcapes, too. I want a cape for my 80 Fletching and 70 Construction!!@@12!! Just kidding, I don't like your idea. Think about it though... Even if from this point on, if Jagex only makes quests with the current requirements and nothing higher, in three or four years, it will take literally, months to achieve the levels required, and then go through and complete all the quests. Now, with the direction that the quests are going, in three or fewer years, we will have quests requiring level 99 in some skills. Doesn't this mostly defeat teh purpose of the quest cape? It's an achievement cape for a reason :mellow: And a quest requiring a level 99 skill will never happen. Never. How can you honestly believe that? I mean, we have Grandmaster quests. Two years ago, people would have had a heart attack at the idea of a quest with the requirements of WGS! If Runescape continues for another 5 years, then we're looking at having some quests that will require MULTIPLE 99s to complete! With the Nomad, while it is possible to defeat him without maxxed out stats, you still have lots of difficulty, even when you DO have maxxed out stats. As time progresses, so do the quests. The longer the game is around, the fuller the skills will be. Hopefully by the end of this year, most of the skills will have been filled out so that you can do something new at every level. That is the goal that Jagex is going towards. Is it a mistake that Summoning has a new familiar almost every level? No! Because Jagex knows we like to have lots of options, and that it feels good to unlock something new. Hell, if we're lucky, we'll have an Ultimate quest requiring 99 in pretty much everything, in two or so years. Now, if the quest cape was broken up, you'd have the "Novice" quest cape, and it'd look like crap, and have no stats... Obviously it would only appeal to noobs. The "Intermediate" quest cape would be mostly the same... Maybe a tiny bonus in something... Nothing that anyone would care about. Once you have the "Experienced" quest cape, you might be interested, if you have nothing better, or if you are broke. The "Master" quest cape would be what we currently have, and then the "Grandmaster" quest cape would be the equivalent of a trimmed Quest Cape. Make sense? I am only trying to look more than two updates in the future, which is a skill that many RS players do not have. Ciao Jagex want a large amount of people to be able to do the quest. If they, for example, released a quest with a 99 herblore requirement, about 4k people would be able to do it. While they want plenty of people to be able to do the quest, that does not mean they don't want these same people to reach out for better skills. If Jagex made a quest that required 99 Strength, then over 100,000 people would be able to do it. Also, getting 99 Strength is not as hard as many people think. Even Herblore is not very hard to get 99 with. It just takes some time and effort. If people knew that though, prices of all potions would change massively. Many very useful tips and tricks are kept secret, to help people make money. While this works, if all of everyone's little training tips were revealed, then suddenly those tips would not be as useful. People just don't want to bother with the effort. While I'm not saying this would ever get implemented (Hell, I'd be amazed if it did) I'm simply saying that it would be logical, as far as I can tell. You are entitled to your opinion, just as everyone else is. Remember that, and always respect it. I like that idea. Maybe we can have low level skillcapes, too. I want a cape for my 80 Fletching and 70 Construction!!@@12!! Just kidding, I don't like your idea. Think about it though... Even if from this point on, if Jagex only makes quests with the current requirements and nothing higher, in three or four years, it will take literally, months to achieve the levels required, and then go through and complete all the quests. Now, with the direction that the quests are going, in three or fewer years, we will have quests requiring level 99 in some skills. Doesn't this mostly defeat teh purpose of the quest cape? It's an achievement cape for a reason :mellow: And a quest requiring a level 99 skill will never happen. Never. How can you honestly believe that? I mean, we have Grandmaster quests. Two years ago, people would have had a heart attack at the idea of a quest with the requirements of WGS! If Runescape continues for another 5 years, then we're looking at having some quests that will require MULTIPLE 99s to complete! With the Nomad, while it is possible to defeat him without maxxed out stats, you still have lots of difficulty, even when you DO have maxxed out stats. As time progresses, so do the quests. The longer the game is around, the fuller the skills will be. Hopefully by the end of this year, most of the skills will have been filled out so that you can do something new at every level. That is the goal that Jagex is going towards. Is it a mistake that Summoning has a new familiar almost every level? No! Because Jagex knows we like to have lots of options, and that it feels good to unlock something new. Hell, if we're lucky, we'll have an Ultimate quest requiring 99 in pretty much everything, in two or so years. Now, if the quest cape was broken up, you'd have the "Novice" quest cape, and it'd look like crap, and have no stats... Obviously it would only appeal to noobs. The "Intermediate" quest cape would be mostly the same... Maybe a tiny bonus in something... Nothing that anyone would care about. Once you have the "Experienced" quest cape, you might be interested, if you have nothing better, or if you are broke. The "Master" quest cape would be what we currently have, and then the "Grandmaster" quest cape would be the equivalent of a trimmed Quest Cape. Make sense? I am only trying to look more than two updates in the future, which is a skill that many RS players do not have. Ciao The idea of getting quest cape for finishing only a few quests is stupid. Like other people said, it's like giving a cape for 80 fletching. Jagex has already said that they know that the quest cape will eventually be the hardest cape to get and that they want it that way. Insulting other people who play the same game as you, especially when that includes these entire forums, is immature and arrogant. And you have a signature for a reason, stop puitting "Ciao" at the end of every of your posts. There is literally no one but you who appreciates that. Some may not mind it, and some see it as a negative, but no one but you sees it as a positive. Did I say it would happen? Did I say it was especially brilliant? Did I say that I was going to hunt down Mod MMG, put a gun to his head, and make him add this? If the question to any of these answers is "yes", please go to the nearest public school, and inform a teacher you were left behind in Kindergarten, and you need someone to teach you how to read. If the answer to all of those questions is "No" then please understand that I am simply trying to point out, that at a certain point, if Runescape continues in the same way it has been, then there will have to be changes to the quest cape, or it will become an item that only people who have been playing for a long time can have. Now, about how I sign my posts... I believe that there is no rule about me not being allowed to sign my post manually, if I don't want to add it to my signature. My signature, is mine. My posts are mine. I can add whatever I want to them, as long as I am willing to suffer the consequences. If these are getting my post deleted for spamming, so be it. If these are irritating you, and everyone else with my post style, so be it. I will post how I want, and as long as I do not break any rules, I don't see you being able to do anything about it. I add "Ciao" to my posts because I believe that it makes it easier for people to recognize me, just by my words, and not by my screen name. If you still have a problem with it, then PM me about it. Don't turn this topic into a discussion about how I type. You will find that after this post, I will not comment on how I sign my posts, unless it becomes the topic, as designated by the original poster. The same goes for my signature. I'd also like to point out that I never claimed, nor will I ever claim, to be smarter than most Runescapers. I may consider myself generally more clever, or wiser, but that is again, my choice. My opinions are my own, and yours belong to you. If I have a problem with your opinion, then that's my problem. If you have a problem with my opinion, you can try and change it, but let me warn you now... I am stubborn, and I am trained in logic. Don't make me use it. With all that said now... Ciao

If money is not a problem, then alching, or just casting the best combat spell you can would work great. Other than that... Nothing particularly fast. JoeDaStudd is right about doing all the quests you can that give magic experience. It helps. Best of luck! Ciao

Perhaps have it only for Ex-Staff members, or people that have turned down staff positions? Solution to favourtism: Have just a few (10-15) people put in this group to start out with, then let them vote on allowing new members in. This makes it so that people that have proven that they're mature enough to get all of these people's attention (in a good way!) will be allowed in. Also, as another suggestion to add to advantages... Lower the timer, or even totally remove (We trust these folks, remember?) the flood control timer. Over all, I support, but I think there's plenty of things to be cleared up and discussed before it is tried. Ciao

Sorry if I sound a little... Out spoken, but would it not be possible to set it so that after X number of posts, a person is moved to a new user group? It is possible to do this without making any changes that normal people can see. I've played with a number of forum boards, but not this version, so I can't be 100% this is possible. Even adding a requirement of 100 posts would be very effective to stop most ad bots. Also, when a topic or post is reported, is it made invisible, until staff (Moderator) has cleared it? If not, this would make it much easier to combat such problems. Again though, I'm not sure what your limitations are. If ad bots, or massive spam attacks have been a large problem in the past, then I can see how this is being kept as it is. But if there have not been many recent attacks that were not easily handled, perhaps this limit is a tad much. Sorry if it sounds like I'm trying to tell you how to do our job.... Just trying to be helpful. Ciao

Sadly, this is the problem with having volunteers to try and police the game... You end up with "He said, she said" sort of problems... The P-Mod probably got told about all the awful things that you did (Imagined, mostly, I bet) and then when they asked her to report you (Because then Jagex would really listen!) she did, and then because the reports came from one of the most trusted players (P-Mod) Jagex probably did not bother looking at it much. While you could complain about this all day, there is not much you can do. Just remember that you should respect people, and stay out of the wilderness. Oh, and did I mention that it's a game? ;) Best of luck with any future endeavors. Ciao