SirIzenhime

my style of play has not changed from this update. I've always done what I found fun to do. The money I gain is more or less just an added benefit of it.

I never argued against that.

If I was personally having more fun, 200 hours.

That would be defensive style. Also a side note, I entered Bal'lak's room using magic, and he focused his aggro on me the whole time. from what I've seen Bal'lak just picks a target and always goes after that one person if they're in the room, regardless of what style they're using.

maul is the best chaotic at saradomin Maul is good for anti-crashing at bandos because if you're only getting one hit off (which is very common if both teams are good), you want the best hit you can get. Otherwise rapier is better.

Fixed it. :rolleyes: Oh that's just horrible sportsmanship. Newsflash: YOU LOST, get over it. Yeppers -- the massive overwhelming majority of 9.1% has spoken! Woot!!!! :thumbsup: So even the tip.it community was wrong when more twice as many people voted for free trade and wilderness than those that voted against? What exactly are you pitching here? Do you have any absolute proof that jagex faked the poll, or, moreover, that more than 50% of players didn't want free trade and wilderness? People wanted free trade, they got it, and are enjoying it. There are loads of people, including me, who have come back to the game for the sole reason of the update, so that's another thing to consider while you are whining that you got yourself scammed/lured(it takes two to tango). I'm 91% sure you misinterpreted her post.

I find taking my time through dungeons is more fun. (voting for the poll)

=D> theres also nothing wrong with powerslaying using your fist He is right though, there is nothing wrong with 60 minute dungeons. Just depend on how you like to do it. However...you can't "powerslay" with your fists, you need a rapier, turmoil, cannon, ext and steel titan to do that silly :rolleyes:

I hope you're kidding... you get 40 range, buy a cannon, buy some cannonballs, get 60 woodcutting or whatever, take the canoe to wildy, cannon drags in 5 minutes, tele back with glory to edge and repeat. You can just leave your cannon there in between trips. Nechs need 80 slayer which I'm fairly sure takes a hell of a lot longer and far less people have. The fact that less people can do it will be part of the reason why it's better...if less people can kill them, then less of the ashes will be in the market, cause their price to be higher. This is of course assuming the xp rates of using them compare to dragon bones....which is honestly doubtful. I'm still looking forward to it though, extra profit from abbyssal and black demons :thumbsup:

Scamming wasn't why free trade and wildy was removed...

crashing/anti-crashing is useless to take into consideration now, considering any world is basically coinshare now if you go with trustworthy friends :thumbsup:

If they were looking to serve their own end, they wouldn't have made the clan chat.

don't forget to account for the stupid people who don't understand a system update. They get kicked of Runescape, and rage quit for an hour or two. But yes, there are a lot of bots....it's been this way for months, even years now :unsure:

If nobody gives, you leave the Gatestone in an incredibly dangerous room, and tell them "Food at GGS" i forive you for being an inexperienced dunger an actual pro dunger leaves ggs by the agility room spinning blade and says "ggs soulgazer" Can you actually drop it there? I didn't think you'd have time to drop it since you get pushed back out so fast :unsure:

Yay

If nobody gives, you leave the Gatestone in an incredibly dangerous room, and tell them "Food at GGS"

if you can find constant fights, it's good money as far as F2p goes. Also assuming you win. Good setups would be range tanks with more defense then usual. Most of the people you fight will be over confident pures. A while back I made an account, 40 defense, 20 range, was like...level 30 something, and I won all my fights.

Young adult...thank you very much....

We don't kick people for non-psychological mistakes. You've never dged with us. Not that we would considering you think of us as elitist scumbags. The only reason you make that comment is out of your own prejudice. *sigh*....read all of it please...I was not directing it towards you...or Low...or ancient...or any of the other "elitists" on this forum. There ARE people that kick for the smallest mistakes, I have seen it, I have experienced it, I am not making that comment out of prejudice, I am making it out of experience. I DO NOT think "YOU" are elitist Scumbag. I do however think you are unable to read a full post now..... :mellow: I wouldn't dg with you either, because I don't need to, I have a group I dung with. It has nothing to do with elitism in your case. (seriously, this forum is getting worse and worse at reading....)

there's a difference between mistakes like. forgetting to drop a group gatestone, or dying in a ramokee room. those are mistakes that happen due to like, lack of experience conditioning. Those are fine. Mistakes that we will not forgive are as follows: Hording the food and not sharing. Indicates personal insecurity. Takes too much drama to convince the player otherwise. Selfishness. Making the team wait 5 minutes so you can get a farm run done. Once again, too much drama and player to convince the player otherwise. Lack of communication. How are we supposed to teach you if you don't talk to us? General stupidity. Average player takes 15 mins to learn safespotting and trampling mechanics. And most of that time is the instructor figuring out how to explain it. It's pretty easy to pick up. But for some players, they just don't get it. If you can't figure something like that. I have no patience to teach you anything else less trivial. You haven't dungeoneered with us, so I dont mind teaching dungeoneering. But I do NOT play RS to correct other player's psychological problems. I will never turn down a quick learner though, even if they're only lvl 70 dungeoneering. I have plenty of high lvl DGers on my black list for just being stupid though. I mean sure, I'm elitist. But I'm not skill lvl elitist. I don't see a problem between discriminating over personality. I mean clearly you anti-elitists discriminate over personality too. except I was actually talking about the non-phychological mistakes. I wasn't directing the comment towards anyone in particular, so don't take it personally...as it wasn't towards you. There ARE elitest scumbags out there who will kick players for making the most simple and harmless mistakes. Just because you don't personally, doesn't mean they don't exist. I WAS NOT directing the comment towards anyone here...especially those who made that dungeon sweeper clan thing.

I think some of them are by invite.

Yeah, it also multitplied the elitist communitie's ego by 10. I couldn't agree more. Not really, it's just more obvious who lacks common sense and who doesn't. Anyway, the resources to learn DG properly are all here. If you want to learn to dung well, as long as you put some effort into finding good guides or good mentors it isn't hard. And really - DG is NOT that hard if you aren't keying. As long as you listen to the keyer, are willing to put down your ego, have some self control - with a good keyer, even sub 25's is very possible. Kind of sucks though when those "mentors" are elitists who give up on you after one mess up. I agree with crossed and Star....but I also agree with you ancient.

It's not efficient to train agility ;) You can also be an efficient slayer without a yak, don't get your expectations too high :rolleyes: But yea, most of the people talking about banking the ashes are people with Yaks/Ferocious rings in mind. Even without the short cut...it should only take about 45 seconds to bank and get back. Assuming the ashes are tradable, I am very much looking forward to the extra profit from abbys, and even black demons, which I might switch to cannoning at taverly so I can use yak (as opposed to steel titan at chaos) I think I'll still titan nechs in chaos though...since there's no place to cannon them, and killing them at slayer tower would just take to long (for my tastes at least)

That might change with the ash update. Maybe not most bosses, but most likely blue dragons :P

The slayer xp makes it better total xp/hour then just camping, but you are correct that if you're just looking for specific combat xp, then camping a monster is better. The same goes for money. The only thing to consider is this...if you ever start training slayer in the future, you would have been better off training it sooner then later.