muggiwhplar

10/10 predicted this would be said at some point. Not going to lie, I use to play a lot due to problems at home. RS was a way to get away from things, I could sit there and play RS and talk to people and forget about everything. So now it is 5 years later, I play a few hours a week, sit here and revise while the firemaking is done. I talk to people on skype when we go to boss and I have fun while doing so. Because I am a highish level now does not mean that everyone follows your stuck up view that we all play for many hours each day, I have a social life, I work hard at school and I go home and relax, sometimes on RS, sometimes doing other things. You just proved my point though. I don't think many of the high-leveled players got where they are by playing casually. Don't you think it's a bit silly to chide others for not being high level, when you yourself just admitted to becoming a high level as a result of an unhealthy amount of play time? If you're going to make it sound like people become high levels as a result of dedication, hard work, and persistence; you can't also leave out the part where you become a high level as a result of sacrificing and compromising your real life goals and activities. And if you believe that it's worth sacrificing RL for RS, then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Do you usually only play 1-2 hours a day? Or is it more like 5-6?

And my argument was that you cannot be a casual player and still receive those benefits.

Can't really have more than 2 goals in your life at a time. Otherwise you get very little accomplished due to lack of focus. Besides, 1-2 hours a day isn't really enough to keep up with the game and its community these days. So if I wanted to improve my health, learn more of a language, study harder for certain subjects and eat more healthily then I couldn't do it? I could ride a bike while listening to the language, when I get home I could eat and apple while studying. 4 goals achieved. It's hard to have more than 2 goals which will occupy a certain space of time but you can have many goals to be achieved throughout each day. You could "do" all of those things, but you wouldn't get much done in any of those areas. Self-discipline and motivation are limited resources which get depleted pretty quickly. What you speak of sounds simple enough in theory, but in practice, it's basically impossible for most people. Additionally, without focusing on only 1-2 goals a time, you're probably going to end up very mediocre in the areas of your focus, as opposed to being exceptional in those areas. Similarly there's a difference between doing things just to maintain your current standard of living, vs goals, which improve your standard of living. Going to school and studying for exams isn't a goal. Going to work every day to make money isn't a goal. Because if you drop out of school or lose your job, you're [bleep]ed unless you've got a means to support yourself already. But if you already had a full-time job which supports you well enough, then going to school and studying could be a goal.

Can't really have more than 2 goals in your life at a time. Otherwise you get very little accomplished due to lack of focus. Besides, 1-2 hours a day isn't really enough to keep up with the game and its community these days.

Already got plenty of goals in RL to occupy my time. I'd rather not add RS to the list. :P Though I'm sure I'd feel differently if I had an abundance of free time and/or the only goals in my life pertained to RuneScape.

Well, the monthly BTS threads on TIF have always been like the Mecca for people who like to complain about how the game has gone to shit. :lol:

I don't really think the definition of "high/mid/low-level content" is dependent upon the current high scores/playerbase. If it's dependent upon anything, it's dependent upon current game content and hours of commitment required. Otherwise, it's absolute; not relative.

Checked out the new Vampire Weekend album. Didn't really care for it; had high hopes for it since their previous album was loaded with great songs. I do like this song a lot, though:

DAMMIT OBFUSCATOR RUINED IT

I openly hate One Direction.

On the other end, you have ten year veterans that haven't reached 90 base. But of course, this is Jagex's current business strategy, if the 'high-level content' drinking game is anything to go by. In fact, Sounds quite familiar... I could write a book on all the dumb things Jagex have done to dig their own graves over the years. Whether or not the current state of the game would be like this so quickly is debatable, but ultimately the biggest mistakes they have made are the ones which change the game's culture, not the game's content.: Killing off PvP in favor of PvM Skillcapes Releasing new training methods faster than they could release new content

That's why you don't marry anyone without living with them for an extended period of time. You don't truly know someone until you see them in their environment. In theory this sounds great, except there's no statistical difference in the divorce rates of couples who pre-maritally co-habitate and those who don't. What about statistical differences in cheating and marital happiness?

A little jealousy's normal. Like you said, there's a difference between feeling a small churning in your stomach and then moving on with your life vs. letting the jealousy ruin your relationship(s) and happiness. See also: this and this.

Read those two links in my post along with the old debates in this thread. Whether you agree with me or not, I think you'll find it quite thought-provoking :P Your arguments are countered in those posts too.

Yup :lol: Such as? Wrong-- the doors it closes are far beyond just sex. You basically have to consult your wife before you're allowed to do anything "important"; and if she disapproves or disagrees, tough shit. Marriage itself changes the relationship dynamic-- it basically shifts the balance of power completely in her favor, considering if you piss her off enough (or bore her enough) she'll divorce you and be rewarded for it at your expense. I don't think you've been around here long enough to see me arguing against traditional monogamy/marriage. I'm not really interested in restating my case for the nth time, so if you really want to see why marriage is a bad idea for most people, reread my old posts in this thread where I go back and forth with obfuscator, Kimberly, et al., starting from like Feb '12. Or read this and this.

Such as?

You're basically bouncing from one extreme of the spectrum (constant partying; no relationship commitments; freedom) to the complete opposite extreme (no more partying; marriage; little freedom) Again, you need to put more thought into these massive decisions and ask yourself why you want that and how it's going to work, instead of just doing it because that's what you want right meow. Otherwise you'll probably wake up one morning and have a similar realization as this one; except this time you won't be able to change anything because you'll be tied down by all of your responsibilities.

Not always; many guys will get needier as time goes on, which leads to the girl dumping him

If he makes an interesting argument that people can learn from, I think whether or not he's trolling is irrelevant. Also in case you haven't noticed, my posts are as brief and concise as possible these days so it's no big deal if they were a waste :P

I'm not posting to change his stance; I'm posting for the people who read this thread but never post :P

The happiness is an illusion though. It's not "real" happiness because it's based on your fears and hers. If you weren't afraid of the consequences of admitting to nonexclusivity, you'd have no need to lie about it.

I don't think people are necessarily against open relationships; they're against misleading, lying, and cheating within the context of open relationships... And rightly so. Whether or not they'd allow themselves into such situations is pointless to discuss.

This is kind of a pointless discussion

I wish I got warning points for being too sexy...