Hello clown #2, short time no argue over semantics eh? MSN Encarta dictionary for you. ef·fi·cien·cy [ i físh'nsee ] (plural ef·fi·cien·cies) noun Definition: 1. competence: the ability to do something well or achieve a desired result without wasted energy or effort. 2. productive use of resources: the degree to which something is done well or without wasted energy 3. measure of machine's energy effectiveness: the ratio of the amount of energy used by a machine to the amount of work done by it. For example, the measurement of the amount of heat produced per unit of fuel when all of a fuel has been burned is a measure of a heating unit's efficiency. I assume most people on this site who claim to be efficiency experts use "efficiency" in a manner consistent with definition #1. Yet, they almost always forget the bolded part at the end. Of course they never understand a few other things too. Here I will list them. "making gp" and "wasted energy" are not mutually exclusive. "making gp" and "effort" are not mutually exclusive. In fact, "making gp" and "fun" are not even mutually inclusive. Furthermore, for total heresy in the eyes of my friends (the efficiency trolls here) one might consider that going out of ones way to generate gp to increase xp rates by some percentage (often small) might be considered "OMFG WASTED ENERGY". :shame: Truely unbelievable and moronic I know... I mean everybody loves merchanting and farming and camping for days at the same monster, and killing the big monsters in groups while hoping not to share too much of the loot. Nobody likes to go places where you don't profit or get BIG XP. You know the abandoned places like stealing creation, fight pits, or even castle wars. Instead, everybody should camp at the frost dragons or go afk with the bots at soul wars until they can camp efficiently at frost dragons because its all about the efficiency. :idea: A good player isn't somebody who accomplished their goals. A good player is somebody with unlimited GP, because only somebody with unlimited gp can gain xp at the fastest rates humanly possible. To do less or consider gp/xp would be uncivilized. :rolleyes: [/hide] Haha, good one. Meh, I be efficient or non-efficient here and there.. Just random. For instance, I'll fish rocktail over barbarian any day. *points at fishing level*