:thumbup: /facepalm Insulting those of us who value doing things well and then insulting the entire community of these boards is probably a bad idea. Also, your comment contributes nothing to this topic and in fact is a perfect example of flaming/trolling. Hence your post has been reported. Wont stop me from laughing at all of the efficiency trolls. I wasn't insulting the whole forum community either. I was insulting the people who think it is fun to come on here and tell everyone else on how to play a game. Efficiency trolls are annoying. Except that both parties are trolls. Someone might be wondering the fastest money with skilling, and one of the efficiency people might come over and say, "screw what you think, green drags, it is the only way to make money" Same with frost drags. Not everyone wants to get 85 dg (which is a high stat anyway) to go to a place that has a cannon in virtually every world. At the same time, the people against efficiency are annoying as well, as they tend to post blatantly wrong information for the sole purpose of raising there post count. Being efficient is good. Making it your whole runescape existence is bad. Unless you happen to like it. And how you could manage to like slaving over spreadsheets to find the way to get the most quite frankly meaningless pixels, is beyond me.