Jebrim

Hence why he'll never get all 200m's, the whole point of me even bringing it up. You guys really don't appreciate how unique Suomi is. 200m Xp in Mining, Fishing, Slayer, Agility, or Rc is rare in the top Overall, nevermind having 2 of one of those 5 skills done. Suomi has 4, almost 5. The only way you're doing 5b Xp is if you can nolife and handle those slow skills. Most people on the top page cannot. Nolifing is a requirement because the more years it takes, the more likely it is that you will quit. This is the real world, not some silly theory that it can take any amount of time and it'll be done. If someone else was to get it, by some chance, my top picks would be Jake or Dapledo, because they at least have some experience with slow skills and already command good progress. But I still hold that it is more likely that they won't get it than will get it. Jd's chance is mostly non-existent and Elvis I'm not sure of, although I think less of him than Jake and Dapledo. I also have a lot of respect for Skiller 703 who is an excellent nolifer and can handle those slow skills np.

You make it sound like people need a brain to train agil. Jd is one of those top players that are incapable of training slow non-afk skills. He's too conditioned to buyables. We had each other added for a short time and he made it very clear to me that he doesn't like Agility. And for this new Agility place, you actually do need a brain if you want to get a good rate.

Jd is incapable of training Agility

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You don't RC tho :P

Seems like someone took down the 50k limit thing on RS Wiki lol

He told me about that a few days ago. It's essentially getting 200m Agility twice, since that's all the training is. Of course it's now at nearly double the rate it used to take, so really only equal to one 200m Agility lol. Although this place is far far harder than any previous top Agility course, so I guess that makes up for it. A Lv Too Low has never even tried the place out as far as I'm aware, so he's in for a real treat once he actually does. :P

I have 44k now

I don't think so, at least not any time soon. I'll probably at least upload a video showing me doing some training, but it won't be a guide. I'm finding that this place is very very cutthroat, very rogue-like indeed. Training in a world with even 1 other good player really cuts into my Xp rate more than training in a world with 2-3 noobs. For one person to maximise their Xp rate, others must lose out. It's the opposite of Dungeoneering where other people being efficient helps everyone else. In this factory, being efficient hurts everyone else and if you have 2 efficient people, both get hurt even more than if they were the only efficient person in that world. To the end of protecting my own rates from being destroyed, I doubt I'll be giving much more advice until after I'm done training here, sorry. I know this probably sounds mean, but people need to understand just how much Xp/hr I lose when with other fast people. It's a pretty sizable amount and there are only a very limited number of worlds to use. Either way, keep us posted on your current Brianpoints / If or when you hit max Brianpoints. I just wanna know how much this will affect theive/agil exp records tbh. Will do. 39k atm. RS Wiki likes to claim 50k limit but there is no source. I'll prove them wrong. :P

I don't think so, at least not any time soon. I'll probably at least upload a video showing me doing some training, but it won't be a guide. I'm finding that this place is very very cutthroat, very rogue-like indeed. Training in a world with even 1 other good player really cuts into my Xp rate more than training in a world with 2-3 noobs. For one person to maximise their Xp rate, others must lose out. It's the opposite of Dungeoneering where other people being efficient helps everyone else. In this factory, being efficient hurts everyone else and if you have 2 efficient people, both get hurt even more than if they were the only efficient person in that world. To the end of protecting my own rates from being destroyed, I doubt I'll be giving much more advice until after I'm done training here, sorry. I know this probably sounds mean, but people need to understand just how much Xp/hr I lose when with other fast people. It's a pretty sizable amount and there are only a very limited number of worlds to use.

Gear is minimal actually. Boots are the only things you need and the full set's bonus I don't take advantage of most games. The source of my success is training in depopulated worlds and knowing which routes are the fastest, which I determined by sacrificing time to figure out how many ticks each obstacle is and then doing a lot of math and plotting. Skill comes in when having to think on your feet due to routes randomly becoming blocked off.

The best rate I've heard anyone else doing is 95k. Huge difference in Xp/hr depending on skill, luck, and knowledge of the place.

Just did the best hour I've ever done and did 12 games for 107.5k Xp/hr. In that same hour, if one chose split it up into 3 20-minute sessions (4 games) and calced the Xp/hr for each, my 3 sessions would 106.8k Xp/hr, 113.9k Xp/hr, and 103.5k Xp/hr. I was solo for almost the whole session until the last one where a person came in late and made me lose like 20-seconds worth. He was nice enough to stop opening doors to let me finish my hour though. I can't see myself really improving on my rate very much from where I stand now, as that hour was almost perfect with only maybe like 30-40 seconds lost of potential efficiency. I'd say 115k Xp/hr is the theoretical max, available on some but not all hours when soloing. So to finalize, I can get 100k-115k Xp/hr when soloing. I'm not sure what the rate is precisely when with 1-4 others, as is typical, but 100k+ is still maintainable.

I'm doing 100k+ Xp/hr consistently now :)

OMGOMGOMGOMG I just did 1054 Brianpoints(100.1k Xp) in 59:35! That calculates to 101k Xp/hr.

Just did a 95k Xp Agility hour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=radVLQ2OBSI

I'm getting 90k Xp/hr at the new Agility place now.

O.O It's like you're genuinely the perfect RS player... Edit - avoiding doublepost: Ok, wanted to find some actual evidence that IonutRomania's Agility and Thieving gains are glitched, as he wasn't regularly using RuneTracker and didn't have a RuneTrack account so we can't just check there. Anyway, here's my evidence: On the Agility highscores, both Capheraekton and Dapledo lost 1 rank each on the same day (13th-14th on RuneTrack timing) and the only person who could have passed them both is IonutRomania. Their RuneTrack historys for that day, showing the lost Agility rank: Capheraekton Dapledo On the Thieving highscores, both 10lb0oz21in (Jdelacroix) and Jenny Smith lost 1 rank each on the same day as each other and the Agility rank losers above, also on the 13th-14th RuneTrack time period. Once again, the only player who could have passed them both is IonutRomania. Their RuneTrack historys for that day, showing the lost Thieving rank: 10lb0oz21in (Jdelacroix) Jenny Smith Or you could have trusted my word considering I know the Agility hiscores better than anyone. Anyways, it's pretty clear when you look at his month gain.

what skill is that supposed to be

There's a major bug. This nerd instantly got 200m Agility and 190m Thieving.....IonutRomania

I'm headed to bed. Post on here the rough Xp rates for the new factory when you determine them.

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Or he's not doing 18 hours/day. It's my experience that people always overestimate how many they're really doing. (Weekly Xp gain)/(Average Xp/hr rate)/(7 days) is the only reliable method for determining one's real average hours/day. It's the method I've used personally for years. overestimate!! Maybe the top players that play alot do.Cause 14hrs awake could be 9-10 accually on scape if someone wanted to scape all day. But for the normal player I'm sure underestimating is way more common when telling people how much playtime per day whatever number someone tells you add 3. :P You'd be surprised. The big reason I was attracted to Drumgun and Suomi years ago was because I saw they had legitimately high hours/week that others weren't able to do. I've seen a lot of people claim certain hours, but the only reliable ones are those that have the Runetracker gains to back the claims up. It's been my experience over the years that almost everybody overestimates their hours/day or per week. Even I would if I didn't have Runetracker to work with.

Or he's not doing 18 hours/day. It's my experience that people always overestimate how many they're really doing. (Weekly Xp gain)/(Average Xp/hr rate)/(7 days) is the only reliable method for determining one's real average hours/day. It's the method I've used personally for years.