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Hmmm... The pmed map you send to people should be player centered(So people can't compare). Since a detailed map is gonna have edges, you should have edge like walls/valleys/rivers in alot of places to prevent people working their way to corners to find out where they are. I think that there should be layers to the map as well, stairwells, cellers and stuff...since that would mean that people would be exploring to find stockpiles of supplies that would run out after a few days, without the map getting fully explored in a few days/weeks and the game ended. I suppose Daisy Cups are out of the question?

Prussia announces a new national Anthem entitled Gelübdeor Vows. English version, sung to the tune of Tom Watson's Old Lang Syne [hide] Should those old vows be forgot, and never thought upon? Those flames of Love extinguished, and fully past and gone? Is thy sweet Heart now grown so cold, that loving Breast of thine; That thou can never once reflect on vows that we have sworn? For those times were not so long, that we are weary. And so the answer is again We swear to carry on. My Heart is ravisht with delight, when thee I think upon; All Grief and Sorrow takes of flight, and speedily is gone; The bright resemblance of thy Face, so fills this, Heart of mine; That Force nor Fate can ever break, those vows that we have sworn. For those times are not so long, that we are weary. And so the answer is again We swear to carry on. Since thoughts of thee doth banish grief, I never walk alone, for thy presence yeilds relief' wherever I may be, And when they see what we can do' our excellence will shine, With Faith and Hope I will uphold those vows that we have sworn. For those times are not so long, that we are weary. And so the answer is again We swear to carry on. Should fears of death beset my heart, or pain rise to cloud my eyes; Prussian Steel and German Might, will be conjured instantly; Now death is what I sow instead, to all those foes of thine. My heart does swell as I protect those vows that we have sworn. For those times are not so long, that we are weary, And so the answer is again We swear to carry on. For you have given me of my Heart; the honour that it needs; Which Madam Nature doth impart, to our bright swords of steel: So that justice may be done, in fair and honest ways: Pray let me always serve, those vows that we have sworn. For those times are not so far that we are weary yet. And so the answer is again We swear to carry on. It is our freedom we do crave, by holding our heads high; Since liberties ye will not give, who glories in his Chain: Though I wish the gods to move that noble Heart of thine; To each his own, that we believe, those vows that we have sworn. For those times are not so long that we are weary yet. And so the answer is again We swear to carry on. We will give ye our Heart, since thine is all we need; If we did then hoard our own, we would break our vows; So now I think I'll let it lie, within that breast of thine, For these are times we shan't forget those long and distant vows. [/hide]

Prussia offers Imperial France a force of 2,000 Dragoons and 500 Imperial Guards, should the Peasents get out of hand. Revolutionary France's leaflets are widely circulated in Prussian Educational Establishments, with 10,000 Ducets being spent on printing copies, as well as Imperial leaflets. The idea is to make sure Prussians know exactly what the revolution is about, thus allowing them to come to an informed decision about the revolution, then opinions can be gathered and perhaps a compromise can be reached if sections of Prussian Society believe in the revolutionary ideals... Since both Imperial and Revolutionary sentiment holds that life/the right to life is sacred/an unalienable right. Thus bloodshed should be avoided whenever possible. Depending on what, if anything, happens next I will make an empowering speech to inspire Prussia to do what it was gonna do anyway :shades:

Prussians collect their fallen comrades and return home...A Triumphant Arch is commissioned, celebrating their continued supremacy in Central Europe.

Sigh... Clearly you have never installed Vista onto a computer from 2004. It crashed when I put the disk in, it crashed during the installation, it crashed during the next installation, it froze and then, on the 4th attempt, it installed and proceeded to spend three days updating and checking and updating. The start up sequence takes the best part of 10 minutes, logging in takes 5 minutes....It was considerably faster working with it when XP was on it.... You are going 'Vista is better, therefore it will be faster.' or 'Progress Policies are better, therefore it will be better.' In actuality it isn't, and Russia isn't better off with progressive policies because there are no foundations to it... The Peasents were brought up to believe that you worked hard and suffered in life so that you could die and go to heaven. The Nobles have a lot of power and change threatens that. It is fairly pointless arguing with you though. You have your beliefs....I am defending ideas that I disagree with because it is a chance to prevent ignorance.

Analogy, since the argument has deteriorated entirely into a sweeping generalisation and a total lack of any knowladge about the production of wool (Which is not a world view, it is a cold hard fact, as with all the other arguments presented, they are historical fact...): I have a Computer from the 70s...It is big and backwards. I install XP on the system and therefore it is better than a modern computer, since it was backwards but I improved it. Course in the real world the computer doesn't understand XP, doesn't have the memory to store XP and if it did it doesn't have the RAM to run XP, and supposing I could, the functionality would be heavily reduced. But to someone who has no idea how a computer works, installing XP seems like a brilliant plan.

Err....Crop Rotation is not modern...It has existed in Europe for the best part of two millenia... The three field system existing for almost 600 years, having been widely adopted between 600 and 400 years ago. The four crop rotation is modern and could increase livestock production by a margin....However the increase of 6 years of year round livestock breeding, verses seasonal livestock breeding, probably doesn't account for the wool increase you refered to. That and crop rotation didn't increase the number of spinners, shearers or weavers... But I am not over fussed if you want to ignore history, it sets a good precedent.

Of course that assumes Russia, which didn't adopt modern techniques in farming until the mid 20th century...many serfs still using wooden plows....has adopted these modern techniques within five or six years. It then assumes that animals have mated presdigiously over those five or six years, and have balloned in size...Which, historically didn't happen after the NEP ended in Russia when it did modernise farming. It further assumes that, while learning, planting and working the land in all these new ways, that the Serfs ignored the possibility of it just being a 'Good Year' or two...it also ignores the possibility of it being a bad year and thus they decided the method was rubbish....and thus allowed the animals to breed out of control. It finally assumes that, while engaged in all this learning, planting and ignoring the mating animals, that the Serfs sheared tens, if not hundreds, of thousands more sheep than they had in previous years. And the Spinners and the Weavers processed considerably more per year than they had prior, presumably(from the Historic perspective) without the advances such as the Spinning Jenny or the Spinning power houses such as Cromford.... There is also the question, presumably, of how easily it is to get hold of the steel scythes and plows historically required for the progressive techniques to become viable, something which, historically, Britian, the world leader in steel production for the age, did not achieve until 1855 with the discovery of the Bessemer Process. Thus, one assumes that you may have over assumed the effectiveness of your reforms, leading, perhaps, to a situation in which you believe that you are in a position which you are, in fact, not in. Creating a certain innevitable suspicion that Dusty would not approve such a scheme, given that he as already demonstrated his unwilliness to allow countries to quickly shrug off their disadvantages, or make use of their leaders foresight of history.

If we are looking at it from a historical perspective then the Serfs don't have enough wool to blanket everyone, as it was...So, Historically, the Government couldn't buy the surplus. Also, going from a social perspective, a fur coat that had been stitched together from five or six different animals(presumably of the same speices) would be considerably less valuable...and therefore much less useful...for the aristocracy. Since one assumes that all the Fur that was suitable for making high quality fur clothing out of was already sold to Europe.... So, if we assume these two perspectives are valid, then you would be buying something people don't have and selling something people don't want...

So the fur you are, probably, already selling, will be sold to buy wool, from the Serfs, probably, to sell to the Serf(probably) weavers, to make into blankets(probably) for the Serfs...seemingly.

Of course offcuts of fur wouldn't need to be shipped across the Pacific for the Natives....And there is 'probably' a lot of frozen Russian Serfs who would benefit from that wool blankets produced in Russia... What I would do...supposing it made a difference...would be to make cheap blankets from offcuts of fur and ship them to Russia, and provide Russian Serfs with them... Since the rich probably don't want a fur that has been badly cut...and, providing you paid for it, the nobles would(might/possibly/probably) be happy to be profiting from something that used to be useless(probably). Of course this is purely speculation...And since historic social norms don't apply, seemingly...anything could happen...

There is quite a strong arguement to say that people who kill large furry animals, for their furs, can probably use these furs as blankets/clothes and other fabric based neccessities...

Is protection from lasers not enough? I suppose any race which evolved to breathe CO2 would be well suited to industrial life...although since Oxygen is so rare it could be that Industy is a very specialised form. Agriculture would be very different, since Photosythesis is right out...and Thermo Sythesis would be limited to the areas around hotspots. Probably used to not seeing the sun, so the depths of space wouldn't bother them so much...however they would be less inclined to explore anyway since they rarely, if every see anything beyond their sky. Probably quite isolationist so would suffer xenophobia to some extent.... Would be fairly short, given the gravity of the planet. Things are generally more compact. Sorry, tired and trying to keep an eye on dinner.

Hmmmm...So something that thrives between 0 and 300 Kelvins, can breath Carbon Dioxide and hold its breath for weeks at a time, and survives extremely high pressure and extremely low pressure... I think you might be stuck there. Alternatively your race was stranded on this planet inside a dome and built it's settlements over the last X number of years. Explaining why your race is totally different from one you would expect to have evolved there.

Your race could have evolved on a low gravity world(there are alot of them) with no or little atomsphere(again alot of them), on a cold planet(Fair few of them). Thus would not need to breath/breath often, would be used to low pressure so wouldn't explode, and wouldn't freeze. That or be a Silicon or Boron based lifeform. Question as to why you would want that though?

You deal with the attributes, I will deal with the science. However I draw the line at self-replicating space goo.

=P I did the first 12.5% so people actually had a clue what they were gonna be looking at, and to remind myself that people are interested =P

It tends to take about an hour to do half a line...more if I am distracted. So I could do it in just a few days...Its the incentive I am having trouble with, so I would say 10 days or so.

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Same link, and that is 12 Gs! You better be an alien because humans would be serverly crippled in those conditions.

Very strong...will make it Very Expensive to trade from that planet though.

:oops: Should have seen that coming.

http://users.aber.ac.uk/lug9/delta_v/merakb3.html Habitable range...quite a nice little planet as well.

Sorry. It is the way I play.

Cerus isn't in the first 2 and a half rows, thanks for Capella.