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But the cape is more about the stats. The cape is about the ability to beat the hardest mini game in the entire universe. lol. Consider it an "accomplishment" cape. Kinda like a trophy for display for all to see and admire. The cool stats are just a side benefit. If you see someone with that cape on, they are one heckuva player. The Fight Cave includes 36 waves of level 360 maging crazies, 36+ waves of lesser powerful monsters, and THEN you have to face a 702 dude that can one hit anybody, and uses two different attacks where you have to switch prayers during combat. The Fire Cape IS the ultimate. Its like playing Halo on Suicide... with one hand. then dont you think if you beat the hardest mini quest in the game, even if you get the status symbol, you should get rewarded with something with good stats too? I guess i think differently then 99% of the tip.it population. :?

I stand corrected, i was informed on another forum that dragon gloves were the +13, and the master gloves were +9. my appologies. EDIT: now i havenew information saying master and dragon are the same thing. will someone that has auctually beaten the quest post stats on here?

I think you are the one not reading. What people are saying is that you cannot compare two completely different pieces of armor at all. It doesn't make any sense. Using your logic, the Fire Cape should be the best piece of armor in the game as it's most likely the hardest item to acquire. It should give better defense bonuses than the Rune Plate. Hell, it should give better attack bonuses than the Dragon Long. After all, completing the fight cave is unarguably harder than completing Dragon Slayer or Lost City. So the Fire Cape should be stronger than both the Rune Plate and Dragon Long. Right? You're making illogical comparison. I understand you are not directly comparing the items, but rather the requirements needed to obtain them, but it's still illogical to compare two separate pieces of armor. Now, if they released another quest tomorrow that required level 5 cooking and took 20 minutes to complete and gave the rewards of gloves that gave +20 to everything, THEN you could compare the gloves from the 100th quest and the hypothetical ones. Do you understand what I'm saying now? To try to explain to you the fallacy of your arguement in your own simple terms: Ug. Fire Cape harder to get than gloves, should be higher stats. Fire Cape harder to get than Rune Plate and Dragon Long, so also higher stats. Ug. And that would just be ridiculous. huzahh! we have a winner! I think i already admitted my mistake 1 post above yours. i still somewhat stand by my first statement though.

i see both sides. i can agree that yes, im comparing "apples and oranges", but they are both fruit... i guess i need to make a new topic, in which every thing be evend out due to avability to get. but im not going to. i guess at the time it seemed logical... now, its kind of lost the flare i had for it. i guess all i was trying to say is that jagex put out a NEW item, with the availability to get it easier than an existing item. butt hey have done that before. so i guess to everyone.. i messed up :(

you're right, but if you had cared to read, i wouldnt have to be making this post. I said in my first post that im not comparing gloves and capes, but the requirements and stats which each require/recieve. this has nothing to do with a cape being weaker than a glove. this has to do with the cape being harder to get by leaps and bounds, yet it is weaker. even if your cape to glove ratio was correct (gloves>capes) dont you think the stats should at least be the same if not greater for the cape? i mean, you spend 2 hours fighting monsters to get to a level 702. Most people suggest armour that costs 12m, arrows that are 400 ea or a bow that is required from a quest that costs 900k to buy, and close to 900k again to recharge it, AND all the stats to weild the suggested armour and not get your rear handed to you in the first 30 minutes. you also have to make prayer potions for your self and fish and cook high level food. or buy your own. what is the going rate now-a-days? 6k per 3dose prayer pot? which is 8k per 4dose (to save room in your inv). my point being i believe the cape is a bit harder to get than the gloves and should be treated statwise. jsut my oppinion :\

I love you :P thanks for someone understanding. Maybe i just said it so no one could understand. maybe this will work. Ug. Cape hard to get. Cost big money! Stats bad for cape. Gloves easy to get. Stats for gloves are better than stats for cape. This confuse hell out of me. Ug.

auctually... have you ever killed a monster with no drop? ex: kill a lesser, only to find a pile of ashes (its 100% drop) with no other drop along with it?

:shock: Holy hell, is no one getting my point? and by the way, do you think the final boss is harder than a level 702 that switches attack from range to mage and can kill you in 1 hit?

but my point is how the stats are off balance. most people have all those quests done by the time they hit the high combat levels to even attemp the cave for the cape. my whole point is why are the stats for the gloves so much better, when the ability to get the gloves comes before (should get lower stats) the ability to get the cape (should get higher stats). now, i agree that the cape is also a symbol of power and wealth, but dont you think the cape should at least get the higher of the stats, just because the cape is harder to get?

... what i was saying is how the requirements are odd for somethng that gives a better bonus. i wasnt saying anything about using one or the other. the whole point of this thread is to compare the ability to get gloves which are way better than a cape, when the gloves are way easier to get.

Okay, I might be going out on a limb on this, but i have a problem... As we know, the Fight Pits came out a while ago, with the promise of a new cape, the best cape in the game. The Fire Cape. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe it provides +11 on all defense, and +1 on all attack bonuses. With all the guides and common knowledge, we know you must have high prayer, 80+, high mele skills, and high range. For you to get the cape the way the majority of the Fire Cape population got their cape, you need full gunthans (for healing), lots of prayer pots, and lots of sharks. You must also have 2 full straight hours comitted to the cause. The cape, IF you get one, would be priceless to you, it being a trophey of your wealth, and ability to comit yourself to be precise in the way you battle in the pit. Today, the 100th quest came out. This quest is a total of 8 subquests. The 8 subquests all have requirements in which you must meet to be able to move onto the next subquest. Now, I'm not saying that getting all of these levels are easy (most of them below 60), but what I want to portray is that most people who can get a Fire Cape, and afford full gunthans, other armour, prayer pots, and sharks, can easily make the requirements for all of the subquests and quests that are required for the subquests. At the end of the 8 subquests, you can buy the new dragon gloves. If I'm not mistaken, they add + 13 to all attack and defense bonuses except a +6 to magic attack and defense bonuses. Lets weigh the items. Less attack and defense for the cape which 90% of the time needs armor that costs 12m, plus prayer pots, and sharks. More attack and defense bonuses for gloves that can be obtained by quests which most mid-level players have finished, or are working on. I know i finished Monkey Madness at lvl 75. i can do Legends with just a few quests that i just havent started yet because of lazyness. My point is not to compare 2 different armour classes, such as gloves and capes, but the requirements for getting each. Your thoughts? Since some people didn't understand/care to read all of the above..... Ug. Cape hard to get. Cost big money! Stats bad for cape. Gloves easy to get. Stats for gloves are better than stats for cape. This confuse hell out of me. Ug.

i have 1 of each (1 red, 1 blue, 1 green). i really hope its something useful so i can buy membership again. its just taking up my f2p bank space as of now. :(

its not the other worldly beings, its the new updates to the lost city.

it wasnt THAT great, but 1k body's for 1k gp. and of course the peoplw who run essence for me to air alter think 1.5k is too much to get paid. i OFFER them 1.5k, but the will only accept 500gp a run. its great :)

while training my firemaking skill, i noticed that all logs of the same type (i was using willow) have a different burn rate. its random how long a log will burn. so unless its a BIG difference, like a minute or more between burnouts, then i dont think that is an auctual proven fact. (im no p2p, so i am not able to test this, can someone test this for me?)

at first i just glanced at the name on the map, and when i glanced i thought it was spelled ardenouge or something of that sort, so of course i always pronounced it ard-en-ooge (like saying ooze, only with a g) like other people have said, once you pronounce it wrong, you neevr change, so its still ard-en-ooge to me.

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took me 2 days to get it right. you basically have to be lucky in my oppinion. the guards move without warning, and i could not find a definate pattern. but like someone said, getting caught helps to position the guards where you want.

Thats horrible :( i remember my first drop party being a Tip.It one. I had met him, and we bagan talking. I never though of adding him, thinking he would just think i wanted to mooch off of him, but i found him as a great inspiration to me. he helped me out after the party planning out the ways i should make money, train, and raise levels. i considered him a true friend, even if i had only spoke to him once for about 30 minutes.

buying essence in a free world is impossible. i was buying 6k essence, and people kept showing me 5-6k ammounts. i kept thinking, dang, that was fast, im glad i didnt have to trade 300 times trying to get all 6k i needed. well needless to say, that 6k went to 600 pretty fast. i kept making them mad by changing my price from 210k to 21k every time they did it. i had at least 5 people do that to me. these people were autoers too. i mean, if you are going to cheat, dont scam too. doing either is a big no no, but doing 2? jesus, lets not get too greedy.

hmm... full barrows sets full dragon all dragon weapons 1m of every kind of rune whip(s?) all tzhaar weapons full mask set full phat set all other rares 100m in gp for any other updates/items 90+ in all stats *looks in bank* its gonna be a while. :(

the thing is, is that it is done mathmatically. you cant just get 2 levels maxxed then expect laws of mathmatics to bend. if you havent noticed, the levels are math based, not all "willy nilly, look at me, im breaking the laws and properties of math". Getting the mele stats up to 99 means you are lvl 126. thats 4 levels. (i think you can have a few less than all 99, but you get the picture). now, you are proposing that the whole math structure is thrown out of whack, so magic and range give you a different ammount? and this method also is just a way for math/range pures to get their cake, and eat the meler's as well. in short, math is the real-life connection. you cant change that. nothing will ever be done about this because its MATH. thanks. :oops:

it was mentioned a few times and was also put into a barrows guide, stating that super restores restored more prayer than a prayer pot or something like that (i might be wrong). im pretty sure thats what it was about. but yeah... *raises hand*

i would like to add to this thread, that i dont think im the only one who pays by month/3 month periods with cash through mail. thus, 1 month is $8 (i dont have a credit card, and the intrest rates would basically be the same for that membership if you carded it or mailed it). so now you have a lot of variables to contend with, and that just pushed your 12m way up.

happens to me when im ranging/maging lessers. getting me kind of mad, because normally i dont have to carry food to mage or range.